You're safe for now, if their AC team decide to implement IOMMU, you're ****** then.
Thinking the anticheat is going to go from no dma checks to straight immou (which theres bypasses out there) is awful thinking. They are years behind eac which doesnt even do that.
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You're safe for now, if their AC team decide to implement IOMMU, you're ****** then.
This games player base wont even survive long enough for them to implement checks for DMA. Most of the cheaters will move onto cod when it releases.
Thinking the anticheat is going to go from no dma checks to straight immou (which theres bypasses out there) is awful thinking. They are years behind eac which doesnt even do that.
Why not? The framework is already established for them, many previous anticheats have done it and effectively killed DMA in their games, the bypasses you're talking about are using hypervisors/bootkits to get around IOMMU, which pretty much ruins the whole point of DMA being completely external. And they're definitely not years behind EAC lol, just look into other cheat lists from Xenos for games using EAC, 90%+ of the cheats even public ones are UD, unlike the one in this thread, EAC may not have IOMMU checks but have other methods to catch DMA and have proven to work in the past.
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This games player base wont even survive long enough for them to implement checks for DMA. Most of the cheaters will move onto cod when it releases.
I disagree, nobody thought they'd implement such measure for games that are years old, like BF1, BF5 etc... not many people play those games but their anticheat managed to cause detection on providers that have otherwise been UD for years, if they're serious about their game's security, which let's be real, so far they have been, then they will continue to go after cheats.
Why not? The framework is already established for them, many previous anticheats have done it and effectively killed DMA in their games, the bypasses you're talking about are using hypervisors/bootkits to get around IOMMU, which pretty much ruins the whole point of DMA being completely external. And they're definitely not years behind EAC lol, just look into other cheat lists from Xenos for games using EAC, 90%+ of the cheats even public ones are UD, unlike the one in this thread, EAC may not have IOMMU checks but have other methods to catch DMA and have proven to work in the past.
I could go the same way the other way and say why would they? Not every anticheat in the world is going to go as invasive as faceit and VGK. I dont think thats the future of gaming and anti cheats. Only time will tell when it comes to whos right but i am very confident i will never land a ban in bf6 due to a DMA detection, which is the point of my reply pertaining to bf6. The only people that say **** like you are ones without a DMA setup. There will always be games for us to play even if more anticheats do go that route. Also not all bypasses are like that.
I could go the same way the other way and say why would they? Not every anticheat in the world is going to go as invasive as faceit and VGK. I dont think thats the future of gaming and anti cheats. Only time will tell when it comes to whos right but i am very confident i will never land a ban in bf6 due to a DMA detection, which is the point of my reply pertaining to bf6. The only people that say **** like you are ones without a DMA setup. There will always be games for us to play even if more anticheats do go that route. Also not all bypasses are like that.
Well, all the luck to you, but let's not pretend that DMA is this super undetectable method for cheating, sure they may not go this route for games like BF or COD, which are not as competitive compared to Valorant an CS, but if they want to, they absolutely can and no DMA setup can save you, on the other hand Internals/Externals can manage to stay UD, I've used Internals in other games that have stayed UD far longer than most DMA's. All in all, if you're feeling safe with DMA right now, then good for you, but let's not push this bs idea of invincibility of DMA to others.
Well, all the luck to you, but let's not pretend that DMA is this super undetectable method for cheating, sure they may not go this route for games like BF or COD, which are not as competitive compared to Valorant an CS, but if they want to, they absolutely can and no DMA setup can save you, on the other hand Internals/Externals can manage to stay UD, I've used Internals in other games that have stayed UD far longer than most DMA's. All in all, if you're feeling safe with DMA right now, then good for you, but let's not push this bs idea of invincibility of DMA to others.
Idea wasnt to push invincibility. But its a fact that DMA is the only thing to stay undetected currently and fear mongering people saying not to get dma and buy a 135$ a month internal is ******* idiotic. Same with l1ney timing out anyone in his discord talking about dma and selling cheats that are detected and down to his customers. Bunch of snakes
Idea wasnt to push invincibility. But its a fact that DMA is the only thing to stay undetected currently and fear mongering people saying not to get dma and buy a 135$ a month internal is ******* idiotic. Same with l1ney timing out anyone in his discord talking about dma and selling cheats that are detected and down to his customers. Bunch of snakes
I'm not encouraging anyone to buy a 135$ cheat, everyone can make their own choices based on their knowledge and experience, in my case that has the best route to stay UD long term, but I get that it's not for everybody.
Regarding that L1ney guy, not a fan of him or his cheats as they're pretty bad, but I believe it's his right to restrict DMA and any other cheat speech on his OWN Discord, any reasonable provider would do the same thing because that would hurt their business, if they're interested in talking about DMA or other cheats they can DM and/or talk on forums like EPvP.
You’re such a meat head, honestly. But yes, a typical DMA user - talking about a brain wash, lol.
My product was detected on release as the AC was different than what’s expected, I announced the detection right away, so Xenos changed my status. As simple as that. Sorry I’m honest about my status.
That said, we went private and are UD - I’m sure the list will be updated when Xenos gets a moment. Per the list Klar is UD, but seems like that’s not the case. ��*♂️
All that said, don’t see the relevancy of your reply. Bottom line is, as mentioned before, if the product is not for you just move on. No need for meaningless comments.
At first, with the anti-cheat, they will be more aggressive and ferocious, but over time this will decrease, just like what happened on Delta Force (which detects the DMA). Lots of detections in the first few months.Then nothing or almost nothing more, much lighter
I'm not encouraging anyone to buy a 135$ cheat, everyone can make their own choices based on their knowledge and experience, in my case that has the best route to stay UD long term, but I get that it's not for everybody.
Regarding that L1ney guy, not a fan of him or his cheats as they're pretty bad, but I believe it's his right to restrict DMA and any other cheat speech on his OWN Discord, any reasonable provider would do the same thing because that would hurt their business, if they're interested in talking about DMA or other cheats they can DM and/or talk on forums like EPvP.
But thats my whole point and what was said in something that you said was idiotic. It would hurt his buisness just like CheatArmys buisness and every externals buisness if bf6 players went to dma. I dont appreciate the contradiction. So what did i say that was wrong or nonsense?
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You’re such a meat head, honestly. But yes, a typical DMA user - talking about a brain wash, lol.
My product was detected on release as the AC was different than what’s expected, I announced the detection right away, so Xenos changed my status. As simple as that. Sorry I’m honest about my status.
That said, we went private and are UD - I’m sure the list will be updated when Xenos gets a moment. Per the list Klar is UD, but seems like that’s not the case. ��*♂️
All that said, don’t see the relevancy of your reply. Bottom line is, as mentioned before, if the product is not for you just move on. No need for meaningless comments.
And you can also disagree with what im saying and you can feel the way you feel about the comments. It doesnt make me wrong in what im saying though.
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Originally Posted by Player1Ready
You’re such a meat head, honestly. But yes, a typical DMA user - talking about a brain wash, lol.
My product was detected on release as the AC was different than what’s expected, I announced the detection right away, so Xenos changed my status. As simple as that. Sorry I’m honest about my status.
That said, we went private and are UD - I’m sure the list will be updated when Xenos gets a moment. Per the list Klar is UD, but seems like that’s not the case. ��*♂️
All that said, don’t see the relevancy of your reply. Bottom line is, as mentioned before, if the product is not for you just move on. No need for meaningless comments.
I respect the way you handled the detection unlike other providers ive seen. So +1 on that
But thats my whole point and what was said in something that you said was idiotic. It would hurt his buisness just like CheatArmys buisness and every externals buisness if bf6 players went to dma. I dont appreciate the contradiction. So what did i say that was wrong or nonsense?
And you can also disagree with what im saying and you can feel the way you feel about the comments. It doesnt make me wrong in what im saying though.
This whole argument came out of the blue. All I noted was the fact that my product is UD.
People should mind their own business and let people make their own decisions.
Some prefers a private, slotted product.
Some prefer a public cheap product.
Some prefer a DMA.
At the end of the day, when I simply state that my product is undetected, it is very unwarranted to nitpick on my price. It’s not like I’m gatekeeping my pricing either. Everything is public.
I know you weren’t the one to make that comment, but if someone is hostile for no reason I will reply.. no point in staying quiet
But thats my whole point and what was said in something that you said was idiotic. It would hurt his buisness just like CheatArmys buisness and every externals buisness if bf6 players went to dma. I dont appreciate the contradiction. So what did i say that was wrong or nonsense?
You said the only safe way to cheat is DMA, which is not true, all I did was point that out, nothing personal. my comment was just addressing this whole DMA thing as a warning to other users here that read, that DMA is not an invincible way to cheat, you won't believe the amount of dumb people here that buy a cheat, with no prior experience to cheating, end up getting banned and throw a tantrum, this is the case with Internals/Externals, but with DMA it'd be much worse due to the high cost of DMA, it may be cheaper now, but then you go down the DMA rabbit hole and could end up spending hundreds if not over a thousand dollars that may or may not work after a few months, I don't want people making dumb financial decision, some of them can barely read reviews/comments/advice on how to stay UD with Internals/Externals/Other methods for cheating.
You said the only safe way to cheat is DMA, which is not true, all I did was point that out, nothing personal. my comment was just addressing this whole DMA thing as a warning to other users here that read, that DMA is not an invincible way to cheat, you won't believe the amount of dumb people here that buy a cheat, with no prior experience to cheating, end up getting banned and throw a tantrum, this is the case with Internals/Externals, but with DMA it'd be much worse due to the high cost of DMA, it may be cheaper now, but then you go down the DMA rabbit hole and could end up spending hundreds if not over a thousand dollars that may or may not work after a few months, I don't want people making dumb financial decision, some of them can barely read reviews/comments/advice on how to stay UD with Internals/Externals/Other methods for cheating.
In the current landscape 10/26/25 if your DMA software is read only then it is 100% invincible way to cheat in this game at the moment. Could change in the future. But the future is the future and now is the now. I do agree there is a lot of stupid even dma users that ive seen asking where to buy firmware for BF6 and COD. Im not saying theres not the other skummy side to selling DMA things aswell. I was just replying to the fact that if your goal is to currently be undetected in this game i personally would push that person to a DMA setup rather then seeing so many people pay for a cheat and the game to get insta banned. Then have to pay for a spoofer after to continue. Rinse and repeat that multiple times with different providers. Seems like they would have a better overall experince getting DMA with ekknod firmware and be chilling.
In the current landscape 10/26/25 if your DMA software is read only then it is 100% invincible way to cheat in this game at the moment. Could change in the future. But the future is the future and now is the now. I do agree there is a lot of stupid even dma users that ive seen asking where to buy firmware for BF6 and COD. Im not saying theres not the other skummy side to selling DMA things aswell. I was just replying to the fact that if your goal is to currently be undetected in this game i personally would push that person to a DMA setup rather then seeing so many people pay for a cheat and the game to get insta banned. Then have to pay for a spoofer after to continue. Rinse and repeat that multiple times with different providers. Seems like they would have a better overall experince getting DMA with ekknod firmware and be chilling.
Understandable, It's up to people to choose what they want and how they want to cheat, but for ***'s sake they need to read a bit before spending money, there countless threads with advise from reputable users here, yet they choose to ignore and get banned. Sometimes I don't feel bad for these people.
Understandable, It's up to people to choose what they want and how they want to cheat, but for ***'s sake they need to read a bit before spending money, there countless threads with advise from reputable users here, yet they choose to ignore and get banned. Sometimes I don't feel bad for these people.
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