25h2

07/15/2026 11:17 PrettyUgly#1
Hello, I buyed a one day key and they told me I need downgrade to old Windows version and uninstall Windows Defender :confused:. In the end I did not use it. Why this is required? It looks little suspicious to me and I don’t feel safe doing this. There are some cheats working on newest Windows without needing to disable Antivirus?
07/15/2026 14:39 OniiChanEnjoyer#2
Yes, this is mostly normal. I use wingleware web radar on 25H2 and with Bitdefender without issues.

That being said, to be honest, you should not run any cheat on a system with sensitive data or access to another system with sensitive data. These cheats use "loaders" that download and run software on every launch. This software can be replaced with arbitrary code at any time. This does not even have to be nefarious will of the cheat provider, a vulnerability in the loader system may expose risk to some attacker replacing the payload with arbitrary code.
Still, things like stealing your Discord token appears to be industry standard in the P2C market, so take care of your data!

And before someone claims DMA keeps your game pc clean - DMA cheats have full memory access to your PC! It's trivial to inject some RAT into any process on the game PC from a DMA cheat. Stay safe!!
07/15/2026 15:22 asnuuuuus#3
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Originally Posted by OniiChanEnjoyer View Post
Yes, this is mostly normal. I use wingleware web radar on 25H2 and with Bitdefender without issues.

That being said, to be honest, you should not run any cheat on a system with sensitive data or access to another system with sensitive data. These cheats use "loaders" that download and run software on every launch. This software can be replaced with arbitrary code at any time. This does not even have to be nefarious will of the cheat provider, a vulnerability in the loader system may expose risk to some attacker replacing the payload with arbitrary code.
Still, things like stealing your Discord token appears to be industry standard in the P2C market, so take care of your data!

And before someone claims DMA keeps your game pc clean - DMA cheats have full memory access to your PC! It's trivial to inject some RAT into any process on the game PC from a DMA cheat. Stay safe!!
Interesting post. Thanks for the insight.
07/15/2026 21:30 PrettyUgly#4
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Originally Posted by OniiChanEnjoyer View Post
Yes, this is mostly normal. I use wingleware web radar on 25H2 and with Bitdefender without issues.

That being said, to be honest, you should not run any cheat on a system with sensitive data or access to another system with sensitive data. These cheats use "loaders" that download and run software on every launch. This software can be replaced with arbitrary code at any time. This does not even have to be nefarious will of the cheat provider, a vulnerability in the loader system may expose risk to some attacker replacing the payload with arbitrary code.
Still, things like stealing your Discord token appears to be industry standard in the P2C market, so take care of your data!

And before someone claims DMA keeps your game pc clean - DMA cheats have full memory access to your PC! It's trivial to inject some RAT into any process on the game PC from a DMA cheat. Stay safe!!
I am try to contact the wingleware but this forum just give me the 503 error. Thank you for the help :handsdown:
07/15/2026 23:20 Noly_#5
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Originally Posted by PrettyUgly View Post
There are some cheats working on newest Windows without needing to disable Antivirus?
All cheats needs you to disable antivirus and windows defender
07/16/2026 17:21 PrettyUgly#6
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Originally Posted by Noly_ View Post
All cheats needs you to disable antivirus and windows defender
I use now the wingleware with the Defender and it works good :pimp::pimp::pimp: