I agree that Michamo is the best developer in this community, years ahead of everyone else.Quote:
The best 4Story devs arent even active in this forum because they wouldn't waste their time with the shit here.
- michamo, p4 dev, whoever was able to upgrade to dx11 on Secret
Also, we shouldn't forget to mention these devs didnt copy, steal or bought (idk about Secrets engine) their features/tools. In my eyes this counts as best, not the opposite.
The first ever engine updates, first BR (that you copied), first WoG, instant fixes of bugs, most stable client for years, selfmade map changes, never had to copy anything. Never had a security issue like lost data or server crashes and more, where to end this?Quote:
P4Story devs however have done nothing to deserve this title, all the stuff they did are very basic and can be created by anyone who puts more than a couple months of work into this game.
Konst's point is that p4s could have dx 11 port/ new render aswell but the devs are lazy or just don't want to put the effort.Quote:
Imagine all this and the other stuff they brought to the game and would, if they wouldnt have so many players to handle, thats probably one thing you can't imagine. Stop playing again the toxic kid and see the truth in this scene, its pathetic and annoying to deal with you every time.
If you call the first part "its just a matter of time", then everything here is worthless. Every big step takes obviously time, its a very stupid comparison to give quality less weight than quantity or time.
The only reason why I don't say that the 4Secret dev is top tier is their policy. I still can't believe they literally copied P4s Hackshield data a few weeks ago.
You know, it takes a lot of time to do this and its quite hard when you have to manage a server for +8years with hundreds of players online. Also, the focus was on game content, graphics alone isn't enough to keep a server popular.Quote:
Ofc its hard but if p4s do "bigger" patch once in 3 months they could atleast focus on this.Quote:
What engine updates? You fixed windows 10 lags after 2 years, after jirkus lmfao. That's nothing to be proud of (especially if you consider that you probably bought the fix).Quote:
How is this relevant or technically challenging at all? If you start from scratch it's a couple weeks worth of work.Quote:
You're fixing bugs? Holy, bow down to the development god. Linus Torvalds who?Quote:
You're proud that while pretty much every other Server in existence has created several selfmade maps, usually with Michamos Map Editor, you patched 3 holes in Mirhur?Quote:
Well, credit where credit is due. But to be fair, I as an individual also never had something like this happen, except for server crashes, which you most definetly also had, no biggie tho. But I get where you are coming from (thank you jirkus).Quote:
How is this relevant when we are talking about the best developer? So what if you have to manage a community? You have a team of several people to take care of these things. That's not a bottleneck for the developer usually.Quote:
Notice how the only thing I said is that P4Story are not the best developers and you start attacking me personally while simultaneously playing the victim. Pathetic.Quote:
Stop playing again the toxic kid and see the truth in this scene, its pathetic and annoying to deal with you every time.
No, what I'm saying is if you put in a few months of work to understand the 4Story source code, nothing that P4Story has ever done over the past 8 years is impressive or especially time consuming.Quote:
Compare P4s client stability and FPS with the others, but this is might too hard for you to understand.Quote:
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How is this relevant or technically challenging at all? If you start from scratch it's a couple weeks worth of work.
Seems to be special, otherwise servers like yours wouldn't have died so quickly due this stuff.Quote:
You're fixing bugs? Holy, bow down to the development god. Linus Torvalds who?
P4 is able to do more, sadly new maps are a total waste in this game (except our edited mode maps). Iberia is already empty, and every new patch with a new map will be after a while too. Don't act like maps are a big game changer, they aren't and will never be. The new maps on other servers are already quiet empty compared to old maps.Quote:
You're proud that while pretty much every other Server in existence has created several selfmade maps, usually with Michamos Map Editor, you patched 3 holes in Mirhur?
Probably you didn't see it's a comparison.Quote:
How is this relevant when we are talking about the best developer? So what if you have to manage a community?
If you think so that we are so many.. :DQuote:
You have a team of several people to take care of these things. That's not a bottleneck for the developer usually.
It is not really my problem that you take it as personal attack. Ive no reason to let you understand this in any detail, after all the shit you did to this community.Quote:
Notice how the only thing I said is that P4Story are not the best developers and you start attacking me personally while simultaneously playing the victim. Pathetic.
And, who says you have to upgrade a server to dx11 to keep it fully alive like P4?Quote:
No, what I'm saying is if you put in a few months of work to understand the 4Story source code, nothing that P4Story has ever done over the past 8 years is impressive or especially time consuming.
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In my opinion, I have worked with a lot of developers especially one who had a young knowledge at developing at the start like Daveey managed to do Playground from scratches aswell with insane UI etc for example, and I think for the moment the Developers who are showing the most are the one from 4Secret.
Konst is also insane at developing, managed to code from scratch within one week the mode "Colosseum" & a hard rework at Territory war and proved so much at coding even tho he learned coding for a year.
Konst was a danger for all players security, so many times they lost their private data and items due Araz. Ive no reason to respect someone like him who obviously didn't care about the players. If you want to protect someone like him, do it. But I'm really annoyed by this lack of security and interest to care about the players.Quote:
Being agressive to Konst even tho that should be a normal conversation and even tho he didn't said anything bad which makes you look indeed, pathetic.
It's very easy to blame the game stuff for own mistakes.Quote:
Hearing so much bad things about the Helper neither makes it wanna start playing on it. (f marketing)
As said, Konst deserves no respect. You probably don't even know what he did the past years? Apart from flaming and spreading lies in p4 groups on Facebook (because he abused it that they had no mod), DDoS'ing (he even confirmed me in chat sometimes), leaking private player data from Araz so their data/account gets lost on other servers too (P4, Ancient etc), copying nearly every update and even then spreading around P4 does nothing (like here now) - and you defend it?Quote:
Please keep in mind we went from speaking about Developers again, to you being agressive to Konst..... simply start a normal communication and debat, if you know you are sensitive; or you might drive by and be agressive, avoid responding or take a deep breath & comeback.
Just because I was in any position, it does not mean I have to take any insults, flame, lies or similar. Thats not my job, no server member of any other project is doing this. If you come to my house and scream f-you all over the place, don't expect anyone to answer this with "thank you". Thats sadly what you guys did, flaming or demanding stuff that is simply surreal or egoistic. You thought youre above all, above the rules - no one is. If you violate the rules, obviously any server member has the last word. On P4, Secret, Vision, Araz, Ancient - you know the rules, and trashtalking players or spreading lies about the team/server (because no one satisfied your demands) is a bad opposite.Quote:
I've already told you in the past, your role is to listen to players not permanently confronting them. Unfortunately you like having the last word even when you are in such deep position.
P4Story is literally on Vision/Ancient level when it comes to performance. And not having client crashes is not special, but how would you know, 5 years and still a helper, can't blame you.Quote:
Sometimes your stupidity is baffling. Sure, the servers died because of bugs. :facepalm:Quote:
Oh yea? Like loading textures from a PNG file? I could also say I can do dx12 in a week, but unless I do it, my word has no value. Given how in the past hm 5 years? You have done nothing but re-texturing the same mounts over and over, I'm inclined to believe that you in fact aren't able to do more.Quote:
Here we go again, what ever P4Story doesn't have is magically useless. Can't admit you're wrong even a single time huh? Mental illness.Quote:
Mental illness.Quote:
If P4Story doesn't have it, it's not important, 2nd act.Quote:
I've been back in this community for roughly a year before leaving again and have made more progress than P4Story in the past few years.Quote:
To tell you for the millionth time now, this was Jirkus, not me. But since you have the brain size of a pea, I'm fairly certain this won't be the last time I'm telling you.Quote:
I never spread lies about P4Story. I stand behind every single thing I said, P4Story has been attacking and exploiting other Servers for years. I know you have their cock down to the stomach so you will argue, but the fact that every single server has been exploited by an unknown deity of italian origin.. except for P4Story.. is quite the coincidence I guess.Quote:
Cringe, you are really not that important. You should think for a second before posting dumb shit like this.Quote:
You know what? I'm feeling generous today, let's make a list of things P4Story has copied from other servers in the last few patch notes.Quote:
Dude, you just don't get it, what we're saying is that what P4Story doing is not complex and not time consuming. You guys are actually years behind everyone else. Having the most basic level of security and management is not impressive, therefore you do not deserve the title of best developers. How fucking hard is that to get.Quote:
Then do not participate in a debate, otherwise stotterer can close this topic.Quote:
We have at least the same numbers of Vision, for 8,5 years on the top. :facepalm:Quote:
keep in mind your server is dead & has no players &
Because I do my job. Youre avoiding my points because you know its true, you blame me for your own mistakes. You cant accept you acted like a "god" back then, trashtalking others every day :DQuote:
no ideas why they are keeping you as a Helper
You probably don't know what I do since these years.Quote:
but I now understand why your role doesn't get bigger than a simple "Helper".
Nothing special. Like your and Konst post approve :DQuote:
Daveey proved once again alone developer by building from scratches the mode: "Battleground" lil helper, you might wanna help your developers to make your server reveleant again.
Back to the first line. Why have to insult agian and be so aggressive, didnt you want a fair conversation? :pQuote:
Spending your time in a 4Story dead forum wont help you to grow your player count! wish you an excellent evening.