New to server side of things

Ok, been on OS, and private servers, seen some pretty good ones,,, and agree with [Admin]Snuggle on his or her,,( sry, dont know ),,,, "To everyone making a server or running one" thread.... pretty much anyway,, everyone has their own opinions, but this was the closest to mine,,, anyhow...

I was playing on shaiya supremacy, liked it,,, not exactly what I wanted, but, it was ok,,, still have an issue with instant lvling.. sry,, I believe you should work a little for your toon to really appreciate the game... And, now it seems the GM, will be in the hospital for a time,, sad... and Im tired of moving from server to server,,,, anyhow, again,

I have been tired of the OS, changing things, left and right, and everyone dominating everyone else just because they can,,, when in fact, they shouldnt,, i also find it dis-respectful... seen alot of people prey on the weak, and just to add kill points and such,,, pvp sucks,,, I love and miss 1-15 pvp, was my most favorite place to be... most pvp servers,,, from what I have seen, dont use it much because they instant lvl, and its like there is no more reason to even touch that portal,,, again, some do, but, usually, small groups... or even smaller... but wanted to try to make a shaiya server i could be proud of,,, and hope to include everyone that is farmers and pvper's alike...

So, with all that book above being said for this very simple quest,,,
What is the best in your opinion, tutorial on starting a shaiya server, and then upgrading it to hopefully ep6, but, read someplace that is pushing the issue even though I found server files for it here, whether they work or not...but, sure the possibilities after working for awhile to at least get some kind of ep 5.xxx... anyhow, where should someone start on what you think is the best tutorial for the job?

I will be learning through this entire situation, but, figured better to learn, and fail trying, or learn to at least try to succeed,,, I have plenty of time on my hands, so figured I could try to learn how to do it.. besides,, have friends that arent playing now because it seems nothing out there is like the OS, and OS isnt as enjoyable as it used to be.... specially the equality between pvp toons, like [Admin]Snuggle stated in the "To everyone making a server or running one" thread,,,, I do have php and mysql experience, and some android programming,, just not certified,,, so, dedicated in learning it if need be, specially anything with c++....

Thanks, TC

#wrong section

and btw, there is currently *no* "social network like" shaiya sections.
(looks like your favorite readings lead you out of topic).

What happened to helping guys who are actually interested in learning? Who cares if it is posted in the wrong section. He doesn't seem to know which section to place the post in since he is new here.

For all the constant rambling everyone does about how this or that needs to be changed to restore the community, you'd think that welcoming someone new with criticism might be a step in the wrong direction.

If you are seriously interested in learning TC, pm me and I will help point you in the direction of people who will actually help you out and answer questions.

suphr, why are you assuming that tcase is not able to understand forum rules ?
and why do you assume that he come there because he's experiencing issues he can not solve w/o your "people" list ?

Never said he wasn't able to 'follow forum rules', he just probably doesn't know them, and really is it so big a deal where he posts something that it becomes necessary for you to chime in and give him shit about it.

Also never said that he wouldn't be able to solve issues without 'my people'. Just saying that some of us would rather help him out. Whereas you asshats seem to only be capable of busting his chops for something that really doesn't matter anyway.

I know you have this god complex thing going on, but there is no point in standing on your imagined pedestal looking down at those you feel are beneath you. Get over yourself and either be helpful or stay off posts where people are asking for help. No point in being a condescending ass to newbies, you were new once too.

First of all, this is not the right section for this thread, it is the [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]. Taken from [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]:

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Shaiya PServer Development Releases Only even though you can ask questions about a certain release in it's thread, so don't make a new thread to ask a question about one release. Shaiya PServer Guides & Releases [NO QUESTIONS] As its name states, every possible guide about Shaiya, or even a Private Server must be posted in here, and releases about editions to the client, recolors and this kind of releases. For releases regarding development itself, please use the PServer Development section

Due to my low level of intelligence, I don't really understand how it happens that somebody dares insulting castor ? His contribution to this community is enormous, and he is right in this case, while you've done nothing but flaming and trolling, Snuggle. You're defending tcase1 because he mentioned your name and your thread that was stickied ? Very impressive Snuggle, very impressive. Your thread changed the world, kids in Africa are no longer starving, there's no more poverty in the world, no more DDoS attacks hitting everyone around, Osama bin Laden was killed, all thanks to your thread. Thank you !

Elitepvpers contains enough tutorials on how to create a server, and I bet tcase1 didn't even bother to try and install the server files. How do you imagine the situation would be if everyone who succeeded in having a server would have asked how to do it instead of simply following the tons of tutorials available here ?

Again, CyC is just like a backup server of the elitepvpers Shaiya section, so in case elitepvpers is temporarily unavailable, on CyC you can read the exact same tutorials that are posted on elitepvpers, possibly posted by a different person, and possibly without due credits.

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Originally Posted by Su1ph3r [...] welcoming someone new with criticism might be a step in the wrong direction.

Well, that's how the community welcomed me two years ago, but I wanted to get everything working so I didn't really care about it.

If tcase1 would have put some effort in searching for easy and good tutorials he had a server running already.
For me the easiest tutorial was Omega's video tutorial, but his videos got removed already. I'm pretty sure you will find some great tutorials, tcase1.

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Originally Posted by [Admin]Snuggle CyC has something epvpers does not, it has good people, this place has you.

Are you being sarcastic, I don't get it.

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Originally Posted by [Admin]Snuggle I did it well in life, I do it just as well here.

I'm sure you did:

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did u guys srly went so far? i mean srly get a live and grow up

Oh my I have stalkers now xD how cute <3
With AMAZING photoshop skills, err maybe paint?
Why is it so pixelated though? Holy hell. Please message me and I'll give you a better one ><
Also that's from when I was like 15 kid :/
I'm 21 now and yea...
I didn't start messing with people til I was about 17 :P
Also why is everyone so obsessed with me? I love how I'm a celebrity and all, but seriously xD grow up
I guess you thought this would piss me off?
Interesting indeed.
If you would like an autograph, please message me I'll be happy to sign ;)

You wanna know what's funny? The fact that you stated you couldn't do a "special kind of brownies" because you said the Navy had drug tests very often, yet, you just said you were 15 and to be in the Navy you need to be 18+
You're not a good liar.

Evidence:
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Oh my you caught me <3
Know what's funny? That you're trying so hard to disprove me xD
You know I set you guys up right? I'm a very good liar.
I want you to go after me. I love the attention don't you get it?
You're just making me laugh because you're wasting sooo much time on me.
I love how you all group up on me :3 makes me feel special.
Love me more please? I beg of it D;

first of all, Im going to thank those of you who seem really helpful,,,,
second of all, how rude can someone be.... a senior member being so rude to necomers,
pretty sure I can learn from some of the nice people here.... but to the owners or MAIN MODERATOR...
someone like this, will ruin your forums if not acted upon... and a simple explanation of
"""" Im sorry, but you post belongs in this section, """"...
but, no, I was greeted with
"""and btw, there is currently *no* "social network like" shaiya sections.
(looks like your favorite readings lead you out of topic).""""

maybe there should be a social network to teach others how to respect new people on your forums...
pretty sure, anyone can take your nicer, more courteous, and kind people that have tried to help here..
and start a more courteous, and kinder "SOCIAL NETWORK SECTION: like shaiya..",,
its not hard to start a website, or forums, if you have the courteous, kind, and respectful people you may have started with,,
but its hard enough to keep one going.
The people that are willing to help, and explain to me and others,
"dude you are new, but, please take time to read the forum rules next time, and make sure you post in the proper section",
would have been extremely more helpful,, than the greeting I got, whom cant even understand the difference between a
new person, and a member that has been here... like its really hard that from what I posted, you cant tell someone is new.
so, now that We have started on the wrong foot.....

Im not going to sit here and comment on the intelligence in this thread, but, I will comment on this,,,,
back when it was old school programming, people helped people... you had similiar situations with people being rude,
but, moderators took care of the problem,,, if they didnt straighten up, they were banned,, simply put.

but, if this is how people is treated after 4 years of ever being in a forum, or even someone that has never
done this sort of thing, and have been in a forum, this is extremely rude,,, there will always be new people.

Maybe I should have read the rules, but I didnt, which happens with millions of people on the net.
constently, never ending,,,

used to be common sense,,, to go to a section thats called "shaiya pserver development" and post something like this,,,
lets break that down...
shaiya, naturally the game,,,
pserver,,, well, naturally private server,,,
and well heck,
development,, what does that tell me? developement,,, simple...
the act or process of developing... growth, process..
in which what Ive learned over the years, is needed when dealing with LEARNING TO DEVELOPE THINGS FOR THE SERVER.
So, if I want to learn to DEVELOPE THE ENTIRE SERVER FROM INSTALL ON,,, what more perfect place than the "SHAIYA PSERVER DEVELOPEMENT SECTION"...
Not everyone is going to read the rules.... at first... the section for "Shaiya private server" could be for anything...
not just development,, but, for the main customer relations,,, which some people dont have,,, or for looking for private server hosts,
or, advertising on their site,, hmmm, NOT DEVELOPMENT,,, which in what I thought over the many years of programming in other languages seemed
to be DEVELOPMENT,,, but, evidently over the years things have changed,,, no biggie... so, explain it, even if it is over, and over again,,,
I dont care if people get tired of telling new people the same thing over and over,, and some people even need told over and over while they learn...
not everyone is so intelligent to pick things up like certain senior members... so, sorry about that.... those who dont have customer service, courteous, kind, respect for others,,,
surprised a site like this has survived so long...
the only reason it probably has, is probably for the ones here willing to help...
And I thank those of you respectful, courteous kind people who have tried to help...
but,if someone could just answer the question, what would be the best tutorial for starting out with, I would be happy,,,
and may come back, and maybe not...

this, would take me a heck of alot longer, and I dont want the 4-8 years of college for something Im never going to
make a dime from, because even if I get donations, wont ever be enough to support myself, which would be nice,,,
but,,, not something Im expecting,,, I have a windows 7 OS, just put back to factory settings, so, probably have to
do some more updates, just downloaded SQL Server 2012 Express, but, havent installed in case I wont need it,,,
and according to the tutorial, will deal with other software and such as it comes along,,, I dont mind taking my time and having to go over things,,,
over, and over again,,, thats why they call it LEARNING... once I can get things to the point of actually having a running server, I can then work on
updating it, adding too it, work on more of the programming side of things,,, maybe learning how to programm more in c++,
Ive liked some of lilprohackers things, Ive like some of shaiya omega's tutorials,,, which in my case seems to be the best
that ive found, but, no offense to shaiya omega's culture,,, I have a hard time understanding the language or accent...
being an english speaking american bastard,,,, I wasnt smart enought to take other languages in high school...
And, my wife married an asshole... I could have been more rude, and dis-respectful myself, because I dont give a crap if I posted
in the wrong place or not,,, not when others are rude,,, but, tried to be as polite as possible in explaining plainly, and
respectfully, that if the biggest problem is where I posted because I dont know the forum rules,,, I am new here, and the only
reason why I am being respectful... So, with all respect, dont be a dick, because i will become one back,,, just because you think
you know alot about one thing I dont, doesnt mean you wont need me to teach you about something else... MY WIFE DOESNT CALL ME THE
ASSHOLE FOR NOTHING....

So, to everyone else who has been kind, and such, the question still remains,,,
and to you moderators, owners,,,, I do apologize if i have offended you in any way,, but, I was offended first..
Thank you... and sorry this post is so long which is probably in the rules,,, and probably repeats itself in areas...
i will take a break,,, and not post anymore on this subject accept about the tutorial itself..
and i think I got my point across...
Thanks,

TC

It's funny because the assholes post here and completely insult a new person for asking for help, someone goes and tells those assholes off and offers help to the new person, then the best the assholes can do is try to insult the one who's trying to help.
I get it, I've trolled the shit out of all you people and you're all soo obsessed with trying to do the same with me.
It doesn't work, I'm sorry. You can post pictures of me all I want, but at the end of the day I still win because I'm the one that got to you guys because you can't do a simple task of treat someone fairly who's asking for help.
I mean seriously kids? Grow up. Oh shit I have a Facebook! Oh shit I'm not intimidating because I have the gift of looking young! xD
You don't know the real me, I put on a persona on this site, of course I can troll in real life, but I put on a fake personality to hide my real one :P
I help those who deserve it, TC being one of them, I pointed him in the right direction.
Away from the bullshit you guys have all just shown here.
Don't you get it?! YOU all are the ones ruining this community, I just brought it out.
This is why all the good people are good from this section.
They've either quite Shaiya or moved to CyC. It has a Shaiya section, so what?
It's like saying Game Informer ripped off IGN.
They are different sites with the same type of content with different views.
Anyway the point is I've proven you are all more concerned with me than helping this person.
So much for all your guy's "knowledge" right?
I'm very good at bringing out people's true personality.
You think I'm some uptight asshole who fucks with everyone in life like I display on here?
Hell no xD I'm actually an extremely outgoing and fun person to be around.
I just display a different side when dealing with assholes like all of you have clearly proved here.
Do you all understand now? Why I am the way I am.
I used to remove the bad people from this section, now I show all the good people how many bad people are here and they are better off somewhere else looking for information.
See now? :) I'm not so bad if you look at it right xD
Anyway, it's TC's choice if he wants to stay here, but obviously he won't get more than just a "you can look in this section -.- fuck off" type of attitude.
CyC isn't like that, I'm not like THIS there either xD
Anyway, I'm out. I've done my job, yet again.
Back to my movie <3
I have skills that will benefit me greatly in jobs ;) and you all are just helping me sharpen certain ones.
I thank you all for that <3 I no longer want to be a celebrity to you all xD so I take my leave.
Even mods who read this post would have to be stupid to allow nubness as part of staff thanking all the insults instead of doing the job he wants.
So killed two birds with one stone ;)

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Originally Posted by tcase1 first of all, Im going to thank those of you who seem really helpful,,,, second of all, how rude can someone be.... a senior member being so rude to necomers, pretty sure I can learn from some of the nice people here.... but to the owners or MAIN MODERATOR... someone like this, will ruin your forums if not acted upon... and a simple explanation of """" Im sorry, but you post belongs in this section, """"... but, no, I was greeted with """and btw, there is currently *no* "social network like" shaiya sections. (looks like your favorite readings lead you out of topic).""""

as a matter of fact, there is - and sorry for repetition - no sections purely dedicated to impressions, feelings, wishes, etc. and YES it's always a pity / an issue that causes people to not know for sure where to post.

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I summarized your post as a <<"social network like" post>>. from my point of view a social network activity is not the worst thing and thus I wasn't considering I was insulting you, as least it wasn't obviously the goal.

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