[POLL] What do you expect from this forum?

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Originally Posted by Αcid I guess i could call myself a leecher since i never released anything and i just have an average CE knowledge but i do give people a thanks if they deserve it. I guess the most annoying kind of leechers is the leecher which isn't giving any thanks but asks stupid/useless questions (sadly there are quite a lot lately). Bart is right i made this thread: [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] to get rid of the leechers and there annoying request threads. Anyway times change and i guess the users change as well but suggestion to improve the cabal online section (or the whole forum) are always welcome :)

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Originally Posted by strontklit That's my point exactly... I just want people to see this and realise that they should give thanks and credits to the people releasing the hacks, in stead of just running off with them, or even worse: selling them! As you can see in this poll, the only ppl really answering it are the ones that check the entire forum regularly and not the leechers that search for hacks and then run off with them. Suggestions i had so far was maybe: making hacks that are released only visible for ppl that or somehow active on the forum ( post a certain number of answers or threads, and recieved a certain number of thanks) but i guess this is not really fair, cuz where do you draw the line? :D Still i think this would help the forum become more about helping each other in stead of profiting from other ppls work without even thanking them...

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Originally Posted by Αcid Well any forum of the size of elitepvpers has leecher problems and i guess there won't be a real solution to fix it. But the suggestion isn't a bad idea at all, we have something similar for the BlackMarket, it's called Advanced Trading Section and only members which have over 300 posts can view and post in it. But on the other hand, elitepvpers stands for free sharing of tools/hacks/exploits etc and i'm not sure if the admins want such a section for the release sections (even tho we got the underground / level 2-3 which offers various other content as well which "normal" users can't access)

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Originally Posted by bartbilf @Acid +there would be even more spam because of leechers trying to get 300 post ASAP, it would be a temporary solution I gues, but leeching isn't bad if they just hit the thanks button or leave a reply and don't try to sell it or release it as if it was their creation ;O

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Originally Posted by bartbilf @Acid +there would be even more spam because of leechers trying to get 300 post ASAP, it would be a temporary solution I gues, but leeching isn't bad if they just hit the thanks button or leave a reply and don't try to sell it or release it as if it was their creation ;O

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Originally Posted by strontklit Simple solution for this: all releases should be approved first -> Very big release: in this 'special' section -> small releases: in normal section Maybe a suggestions thread about this section of epvp is an option? (because this poll isnt really helping :p) I know there is a discussion section about entire epvp, but not for cabal only, so maybe a good idea? Don't tell people they can see these things by making 300+ posts, just let them find out on their own... Not many leechers who will ever find out :p

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Originally Posted by Αcid Well you can always open a new poll in the poll sections but i doubt that the leechers will care to vote or write a reply.

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Originally Posted by Heartless812 Well, let's be honest here, a great part of the increasing leecher amount, is the way pioneers release the hacks. A good example of this is when you release a hack, you give away links for all the hacks attached/enabled, to make it easier to the lazy leecher, and be sure if a leecher is too lazy to search for other available hacks, he'll be too lazy to give any good feedback/thanks. The examples are many; look at any release and you'll see that it's fully linked with the related releases, rather than letting users look for them. It's this 'spoon feeding' mentality that brought things down the hill. If you REALLY want to have things fixed for the better, you must enforce a rule of not linking any already released hack/tool to a thread that's discussing another hack, like if you have addresses that let you enable certain feature, but not the bypass, DO NOT link the bypass. if anyone asks for a bypass, delete his reply, if anyone replies with the bypass on the thread, delete the reply aswell, let the people search and interact, if they're too lazy then **** them? (You may say you want to link and give credits, and the other guy will get thanks this way, guess what, they never bother giving you thanks, so you think they'll give him?!) You spoonfeeding will just increase the total number of hackers, and ruin it for everyone; ones who bother create the hack, or those who actually try to not abuse the hacks. And the funny part is some people created full tool with most of the hacks that all it needs is 2 buttons press, and later on you complain about abusing leechers. If you don't want abusing leechers, then don't feed them, it's all up to you.

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Originally Posted by bartbilf @Heartless812 @strontklit There is nothing wrong with full releases that then get leeched, because without leechers there would be no reason to release anything (if everyone could do it themselves), but then again, you have people who are thankfull that you release something and there are people who just try to take credits and sell it for a profit.. That's where it goes wrong. I'm not mad at 'leechers', glad that there are people who do, just on the mentality of some of those, who then ruin it for all others.

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Originally Posted by ibonehj15 honestly speaking. i'm a 100% leecher since 2008.first hack/cheat forum ive ever visited and cabal was my first mmo played, my child hood wasnt cool.any how,on topic! yeah. most releases in 2012 were a lot different from what cabal was when it hit ph 2008! the difference is, releases now are so easy to use, whereas guys like xanward [idk the others] did tutorials for the most simplest hack! no spoon feeding just pure infos. compared to now, release includes an instructional manual on how to use the tool properly. this things aint happening b4. well thats besides the evandon ct from the early ages. the only remnant of the cheats we use now. but beside that there's none ! i remembered a fellow pinoy cheater who released the original dh method. it got 33 pages[if my memory isnt dull] till it was closed down, only releasing the tips on how it is done.now, a thread gains popularity due to spam like posts,i.e., got a detection, not working, pls update and etc.and as you guys,well i consider myself one, replies to their concerns making the thread almost useless for us to enjoy. suggestions? release noob friendly tutorials.infos only. be accommodating[ sometimes ]. teach and let them leech. its how forums are. let them be. no spoon feeding, is it a trend now? the releasers can stop this at the start of the topic, that way, leechers know there limits ! earning 300+ posts b4 posting a trading thread is kinda cool. but yeah, its easy to hit 300+if u know how to spell spam[same as me lol].tighten up on rules like flaming others and the likes[also on posting trading threads].it may still lead to spam but lesser.hitting thanks is good.if they dont tend to hit them let them be. dont mind them, if they do hit em be happy if they dont, move on ! we cant teach cheaters to be wiser. but we can let them know what limit is. almost got an hour of editing b4 deciding to click post reply. gud morning to me @4:25 am GMT + 8 and gud evening to all of u. off to bed zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Originally Posted by strontklit Anyone noticed that EPVP is much more quiet since No Entry Hack has been patched and since the DC flag is back on Cabal EU ? :p I thought most of the leechers were from PH but apparently a lot are from EU too :p