Of course I am. Why do you say it wouldn't work?Quote:
Are you serious?
This way can't work.
darkorbit new anti bot system
03/30/2016 14:17
topastop#106
03/30/2016 14:35
Dr.Toni#107
Because this way isn't usefull.Quote:
Thousand of players play this game and you want to compare them with a few hundred?
03/30/2016 20:33
topastop#108
You don't need thousands of samples to generate a neural network that detects if it is a player or a bot playing.Quote:
Thousand of players play this game and you want to compare them with a few hundred?
A few hundred are enough.
03/30/2016 20:44
Dr.Toni#109
lolQuote:
A few hundred are enough.
Not really,my friend. :)
03/31/2016 00:01
topastop#110
I will be fairly honest.Quote:
Not really,my friend. :)
As someone who is working in this area (Neural networks and prediction systems) and has a lot of co-workers also working on this area (some of them on AI applied to human interfaces), I am 100% positive you don't need thousands of samples to understand that if it is a bot or a human playing.
03/31/2016 00:07
brouhaha#111
as a botter:Quote:
03/31/2016 07:09
～Demetrio～#112
As a bot developer easy to understand and easy to prove :rolleyes:Quote:
03/31/2016 17:39
Diаmonds#113
Prove it then. Stop speaking and act.Quote:
03/31/2016 22:46
～Demetrio～#114
If i explain the point you won't understand , we'll be just in a infinite loop Question > Don't understand > Answer > Repeat.Quote:
03/31/2016 22:52
Dr.Toni#115
lolQuote:
You are not the only Genius here.
Don't think that other people are stupid.
03/31/2016 23:47
～Demetrio～#116
i did not mean that i just will waste my time trying to explain the point. i don't think the pepople is stupid :) i know here's a lot of good programers and genius :PQuote:
You are not the only Genius here.
Don't think that other people are stupid.
04/01/2016 01:27
topastop#117
They don't need to prove it.Quote:
BP has the right to close whatever account they wish whenever they wish.
It is only a matter about detection and the fact that there is no interest in removing all the bots from the game.
04/01/2016 01:42
～Demetrio～#118
Right , BP has all rights to do whatever in every account , We are not the owners of the account we use , The real owner is BP :( , but the another thing about detections: NO PROBLEM EVERY UPDATE WE CAN CHANGE BOT BEHAVIOR AND NOW THE DETECTION IS HARD.Quote:
BP has the right to close whatever account they wish whenever they wish.
It is only a matter about detection and the fact that there is no interest in removing all the bots from the game.
04/01/2016 02:09
topastop#119
This is where a non-dynamic neural network comes into play.Quote:
Bots change behavior? Fine. We can still predict that a real player wouldn't be changing his behavior (unlike bot users).
EDIT:
Just to make sure you understand: It doesn't matter how the neural-network learns that a player is a player and a bot is a bot. The thing is: It will learn.
EDIT 2: Better yet, it will learn better and faster than anyone in this world. That is why there is such surge to regulate AI asap.
04/01/2016 02:22
～Demetrio～#120
lol ,if a player change his behavior this means is a bot? i don't think so!Quote:
Bots change behavior? Fine. We can still predict that a real player wouldn't be changing his behavior (unlike bot users).
EDIT:
Just to make sure you understand: It doesn't matter how the neural-network learns that a player is a player and a bot is a bot. The thing is: It will learn.
BP could not predict when a bot change the bot behavior. every bot developer can change it random days hours. you think it's possible detect bots without detect legitim players? it's clear they can't catch all pixel-bots do you remember 2 years ago when they banned legitim accounts?
About AI: The bot can learn by it'self and then this change the behavior evey hour/day/Minute. The Bot can act just like a human when the developer is great.