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Originally Posted by nitemare991 I'm not sure if we are talking about the same concept. By elemental nuker I mean fire/light/cold nuker (obviously would fail to kill any str), but I'm pretty sure that bicheon or heuksal nukers would do well against STRs (that use vigors) with decent crits on their weapons.

who on this planet would dare to make a elemental only nuker?, ss nuker can go home before the pvp starts against any str with vigors and spear nuker may have better chances but still not able to seriously compete with 55% debuffs.

and it's not like INTs won't need vigors against duals, with all those KBs and KDs. So I don't really see why there's such a big fuss over a trivial matter that existed at ISRO for almost a decade.

oh shit, i notice that you've been a nap on sro... xd

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Originally Posted by nitemare991 and it's not like INTs won't need vigors against duals, with all those KBs and KDs. So I don't really see why there's such a big fuss over a trivial matter that existed at ISRO for almost a decade.

so u need vigors when ur opponent kbs and kds?
well i dont know on what isro u played but i cant remember a single vigor used in 100 cap isro chin only pvps

No vigors , ok , i dont like it but i can play without ,
cooldown at KB ? what do you mean ? i use only 1 kb ?
At bicheon u increased only 30% the debuffs ?
Debuffs from force to 55%`?

This server sounds like glavier/spear builds are op , bicheon weak , bowers week ...
Glaviers/spears 2x stun skills , they can make dull , they have even KB ,


Nice work , but im out . !

when server will open?

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Originally Posted by Belethier who on this planet would dare to make a elemental only nuker?, ss nuker can go home before the pvp starts against any str with vigors and spear nuker may have better chances but still not able to seriously compete with 55% debuffs.

I have seen all kinds of players out there, so it wouldn't be a big surprise if there were some. I am just saying that even with s/s nuker and decent stats, you can manage to kill STRs. It's not like there's a monopoly that STRs have over vigors. Trust me, if you are going to be making a nuker you will have trouble with duals, so again, you will probably need vigors against say bow/blade/fire build.

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Originally Posted by zohaib143 seems u only bot 24/7 and never enter a pvp zone :) its impossible to kill certain builds with vigors.

Well, sure, when it comes to 1on1 it might be a pain in the ass, and yeah, if a bladers goes full vigor against other str or even int, most likely wont die. But even with vigors, str vs str can end up with one of them killing the other.. Trust me, spent enough time pvping. And forget for a moment about the 1on1 crap, while jobbing, ftw, guild war and so on, ofcours vigors are helpful and essential, but it doesnt make anyone invincible lol, dont forget that part.
Anyways, honestly I dont give a damn whether there will be vigors or not, dont see any point what all the fuss is about..

have you made cooldown to cure?
i don't see it..
if yes good. if not why the fuck not?
p.s im a full str bower.

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Originally Posted by Belethier so u need vigors when ur opponent kbs and kds? well i dont know on what isro u played but i cant remember a single vigor used in 100 cap isro chin only pvps

You don't need vigors against the damage necessarily at that point, but if they manage to tank your snow out, and the chances are they will if you have similar sets, you will be needing those vigors to actually have a chance to recast your snow again.


Cheers.

With vigors STR will rule the server, thats for sure.
Without vigors i believe its more even, because INT (spear for sure) will have a big disadvantage in groupfights.

Also I believe this makes 1vs1 PvP more fun, you could try pvping with walls for example.
On the other hand making a poll tomorrow IMO really sucks. People start now, create their builds now, and then suddenly 1 or 2 days later there is an update which changes it all. Make your choice now and go through with it.

when im lvl 100 under the 10th and my second char also...do i get 2 x reward ?

How many time left till server opening?

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Originally Posted by zohaib143 have you made cooldown to cure? i don't see it.. if yes good. if not why the fuck not? p.s im a full str bower.

Good question, way more important than vigors or no vigors.

Show us the skill changes.