[ATTENTION] Read this server owners.

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Originally Posted by missesme AGE doesn't have the right to take down servers or serve injunctions of any type about it. If, people were asking for a fee to play the server then thats a little different. Running off a donation system is legal and by right, they actually can't try to scare servers. I personally wouldnt go sueing them because they would win, they would find a loophole in it and on the servers part it would cost thousands, perhaps tens of thousands to sue them. On the topic of what is legal and not, i as doing some reading and it comes to these simple rules: 1. Server emulation/reverse engineering is protected by law in these countries: USA, Australia, New Zealand, Asia. (Europe has very lax copyright laws too so they're pretty protected) 2. Burning and selling copies of games such as WoW, Aion, Guild Wars and other games that are sold in stores and creating CD Keys or making the system not require them IS ILLEGAL. 3. Asking for a compulsary fee on any game that is considered private and that you are releasing out of your own personal reasons is in fact ILLEGAL. (So dont charge a fee for any private servers pretty much) Thats pretty much the short version of what i read. Bear in mind that different countries will have different interpretations of this and may be more in depth. But an article was released about it being ammended mid september last year and thats a summation of what it said. Thanks [GM]Angel

You are right BUT since the donations on these private servers gives you DP it can easiely be argued that its not actually donations its just a name its been giving. Just like aerias own system you also pay for points but its not called donating. Donating is defined if you give something for free to support a cause and etc. without expecting anything in return. Even blizzard has been cracking down hard on private servers latly.

I made a new account on areia to ask whats going on .. all they did was perma ban.. looks like they might actually b behind this

But if they are goin to be a pian try to make another one and make it from switzerlad like others say.. and try to contact the devolopers also.. (i dont kno how to make a server o.o so i dont know how hards its going to be... just givin a suggestion)

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Originally Posted by Psycnosis You are right BUT since the donations on these private servers gives you DP it can easiely be argued that its not actually donations its just a name its been giving. Just like aerias own system you also pay for points but its not called donating. Donating is defined if you give something for free to support a cause and etc. without expecting anything in return. Even blizzard has been cracking down hard on private servers latly.

if so then just make somthing in the item mall cost like some AP/DP or w/e.. for example.. u wont be ***donating*** to get that item you wud actually be paying to get that specific item (HP remedy sounds good for a cheap thing to put in item mall)

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Originally Posted by ahmed33314 I made a new account on areia to ask whats going on .. all they did was perma ban.. looks like they might actually b behind this

They are no matter what everyone try to say or to proove ttrying make themselves feel more comfortable running a shaiya private server.

We are recovering from this and will get back online asap.

Thank you all shaiya rebirth players and anyone who support us through this. We are not running away but working hard to bring everything back to normal while trying to warn the community.

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Originally Posted by Psycnosis You are right BUT since the donations on these private servers gives you DP it can easiely be argued that its not actually donations its just a name its been giving. Just like aerias own system you also pay for points but its not called donating. Donating is defined if you give something for free to support a cause and etc. without expecting anything in return. Even blizzard has been cracking down hard on private servers latly.

Actually, becuse a server doesnt charge donations (thus why they are called donations) and we dont ask for them or require you to donate to play they really have no standing. If they were to sue or try and shut you down they would actually have to prove that donating is required to get something in the game that you couldnt get without donating. Because most private servers (including Vengeance) donation items are able to be bought and sold by players to other players from the item mall they cant argue that it is to make you better or unattainable in game. Yes, its harder to get them, but you can easily prove that they are donations to help the server, not for personal gain.

As for blizzard cracking down, they arent cracking down on pservers. They are cracking down on people burning copies of the game, taking away the requirement of a CD key and reselling the burnt copies, and on people who are charging to play the game as a compulsory fee.

Remember: the word that means the most is COMPULSORY. Donations arent required for you to play so they are not a breach of the law. If you had items that you can only get in the item mall and cant be traded then yeah, thats a breach. But most servers now have a way around that even because they have items in game that give you DP.

The only way they can get you is if you have an account on Aeria that plays shaiya and is not banned (if its banned this does not apply) Because when you download the game you have to accept their ToS and in there it does say "You will not emulate this game or its contents or otherwise breach our copyright laws" However, if you are banned, have not been playing the server for over a year or have effectively deleted the game and its contents from your computer then you are TECHNICALLY not breaking their rules or copyright values.

The only thing i'm not so sure about is if you download OS to patch it to the private server.... however i believe thats one of those situations where its "how you take it" thats something that they could possibly get you for, but proving it would be hell and expensive because the server host doesnt use the OS client, they use server files which don't require you to click on a user agreement. So they would only be able to get the players and the amount they would be able to sue for would be around the$50 mark, personally, i dont think they would spend millions to sue tens of thousands of people for $50 each.... that seems like a bit of a stupid money loss move lol.

All and all servers are safe, as long as all your stuff is able to be gotten without the donation points (even if you have to buy it off donaters) then you're peachy. The moment payments becomes compulsory (if you have items that cannot be traded in your donation system or are completely unable to be gotten without donation) then you might have a bit of a snag and could be "in danger" of being attacked by them (which i severely doubt they would)

So make all your donation stuff able to be traded or dropped in game ^.^

thanks

[GM]Angel

whats with the long posts that make me sick just looking at? ....

not aeria, get over it....

Any news?

Any news?

whats so funny about this matter is that AeriaGames is currently being sued by Evony for copyright infringement. lol

Any of the AMD's if possible can you give us a slight update on the server status and if this thing is ever going back up x.x

Any of the AMD's if possible can you give us a slight update on the server status and if this thing is ever going back up x.x

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Originally Posted by sunder702 whats so funny about this matter is that AeriaGames is currently being sued by Evony for copyright infringement. lol

Lol what? Where did you get this information from? Just curious as to where I can read up on it for lawls.

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It could be a hacker, aeria doesn't have the right to close servers like I said. And yes, a pro hacker can get away with alot of things before caught, so don't rule it out. And Sonov&Choi Rock are the same company I think.

they have the right to close your private server cuz its illegal to provide it

They don't own that part of the rights of the game....