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02/14/2013 23:09 MarStra#61
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Originally Posted by Funnyking View Post
your name is GAYPRICK and fight against me 1 vs1 who ever you are! and i spend 0€ in this fcking game..... come and fight or dont leave your coment here
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02/15/2013 00:03 Km3Xx#62
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Originally Posted by Withered View Post
Humans need some downgrades and Eles more Ele dmg, Swashs some mroe HP and rangers more MS. That's it.
I prefer more HP than more Movement Speed. >.>
Ranger's already have lowest HP from all classes.
02/15/2013 00:33 phantomboot#63
why all i saw is QQ about my class, QQ about my class blablabla...

can't u make post with global rebalance opinion ?
02/15/2013 01:34 Withered#64
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Originally Posted by Kleparnik View Post
I can't belive u are one of the best elems ingame o0 ele is fckin good vs critters due to the high crit res 4,4k DoT + att speed debuffs.Also the video u showed its vs the best knight on our server :) u got mutation which makes ur enemy totaly useless and u can rebuff recover ur hp u got heal ect.And i know u will say eles got low res QQ knight with shrine pants kills eles easy QQ
ffs get some exc sentinels+hestia and u are fckin ok the crits wont be 4-5k and u can easy tank him and if its in HH the critter die from DoT+hh skills :)
Yea sure Freddy is currently the best knight and he crits me for 6-8k and with Requiem even more. Even normal Knights crit me for 4k+ ;)
79% Res is the limit on normal gear, on CC pots im close to 80% Evasion but the high accuracy of knights makes it totally useless, just as block. On swagger my ele went down like shit, too.
The 1% additional Resistance won't help that much. Ignore Res = 100% chance to ignore 18% resistance of the target (80-18 or 79-18).
And again there's ignore crit def and ignore def. That's a real pain in the ass. Ele's crit def buff is capped on 20% so vs a knight on shrine gear you have basically only the crit def from your HH garb. Mutation often misses and the heal works only when your capable of doing anything. Mostly you get holded or stunned and go down, but that's it.
It's the era of humans.

My global suggestion:
Remove ignore res/crit def/stun res/sb from the game. Give the shrine armors as instead some features such as some extra stats as seen on CF armors or w/e. Bring the stun res of critters back to 100%

Knights
- nerf their dmg a little bit
- give them a chance to select either a defensive or offensive build
Archers
- lower the HP a little
- lower the Heroic dmg buff for about 200 damage
Mage
- cap mental severance on 40% or make it blockable
- increase the CD of ethereal healing

Zerk:
- fine as it is imo, great critters with decent tanking abilities
Hunter:
- fine as they are
Sorc:
- Okay as they are (maybe bring requiem back to the old resistance reduction)

Orbiter
- idk i dont play them
Summoner
- well their HH def already got lowered but they're still quite good
Slayer
- Almost a decent critter with nice stun abilities.. Maybe give them a small res debuff of 10% which is unbkockable but of short duration

Ranger:
- More MS/AS
- A little bit of additional stamina
Swash:
- More HP
- fix their masks <.<
Ele:
- More ice/light/psn dmg
- fix the dot
- fix the bug in frost armor
- add a sb debuff or increase the power and lvl of summoned pets

it's quite hard as any change has different influences depending on the level ranking, gear, area where people fight etc..
02/15/2013 02:31 KTiesto#65
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Originally Posted by Krython View Post
Ur conclusion sux :<. Anyway I said what I think. Everybody can have different opinion. I think that ele is better than sorc atm and I will stay on it ;) But still ele and sorc are one of the weaker classes after rebalance
conclusion -> go sleep and retire from this game go play mario
02/15/2013 03:25 Krython#66
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Originally Posted by KTiesto View Post
conclusion -> go sleep and retire from this game go play mario
Who are u to tell me what to do? Get lost lowbie
02/15/2013 08:50 steph33#67
someone can give me peanutz ?
02/15/2013 11:25 G4yprick#68
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Originally Posted by Funnyking View Post
your name is GAYPRICK and fight against me 1 vs1 who ever you are! and i spend 0€ in this fcking game..... come and fight or dont leave your coment here
Sopric here, im ok with pvp when i come back from college.

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Originally Posted by Grischnaki View Post
show me a better ele on Urzark, guess u can't
It isnt so hard to tank as Funnyking with 3 res stones in ring... But thats all he can do.

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Originally Posted by Bornholm View Post
If you don't know anything about the build from the ppl or the ppl stop talking shit or you get reported !
Noo please, dont report me pls, i wont have anything to live for then.

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Originally Posted by Kleparnik View Post
ele is fckin good vs critters due to the high crit res 4,4k DoT
Hm, have u noticed that dot doesnt work when ele is stunned? Whats probability of not getting stunned in fight against critters when ele has no chance to outrun anybody?



@Withered: For me, Frost Armor works just fine. :o Sometimes it bugged me while grind but at siege, shrine etc. i dont have problem with it.
02/15/2013 11:26 benzo11#69
one doesnt not simply talk about sorc
02/15/2013 14:37 billclinton#70
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Originally Posted by Withered View Post
Yea sure Freddy is currently the best knight and he crits me for 6-8k and with Requiem even more. Even normal Knights crit me for 4k+ ;)
79% Res is the limit on normal gear, on CC pots im close to 80% Evasion but the high accuracy of knights makes it totally useless, just as block. On swagger my ele went down like shit, too.
The 1% additional Resistance won't help that much. Ignore Res = 100% chance to ignore 18% resistance of the target (80-18 or 79-18).
And again there's ignore crit def and ignore def. That's a real pain in the ass. Ele's crit def buff is capped on 20% so vs a knight on shrine gear you have basically only the crit def from your HH garb. Mutation often misses and the heal works only when your capable of doing anything. Mostly you get holded or stunned and go down, but that's it.
It's the era of humans.

My global suggestion:
Remove ignore res/crit def/stun res/sb from the game. Give the shrine armors as instead some features such as some extra stats as seen on CF armors or w/e. Bring the stun res of critters back to 100%

Knights
- nerf their dmg a little bit
- give them a chance to select either a defensive or offensive build
Archers
- lower the HP a little
- lower the Heroic dmg buff for about 200 damage
Mage
- cap mental severance on 40% or make it blockable
- increase the CD of ethereal healing
- increase cooldown on anti-magic
Zerk:
- fine as it is imo, great critters with decent tanking abilities
Hunter:
- fine as they are
- fix cure and our 2 debuffs
- more movement speed
- change cohesion to the old way and give hunters a base hp increase instead.
Sorc:
- Okay as they are (maybe bring requiem back to the old resistance reduction)
- Ethereal Refreshment to the old way as well
Orbiter
- idk i dont play them
Summoner
- well their HH def already got lowered but they're still quite good
Slayer
- Almost a decent critter with nice stun abilities.. Maybe give them a small res debuff of 10% which is unbkockable but of short duration

Ranger:
- More MS/AS
- A little bit of additional stamina
Swash:
- More HP
- fix their masks <.<
Ele:
- More ice/light/psn dmg
- fix the dot
- fix the bug in frost armor
- add a sb debuff or increase the power and lvl of summoned pets

it's quite hard as any change has different influences depending on the level ranking, gear, area where people fight etc..

fixed it.
02/15/2013 14:48 Mrn1c3guy#71
lol increase the cooldown more ? they still had you can use it only all 9 sec before you was abel to use it all 6sec -.-
and i can imagine you will be one of the first who QQ on siege about more anti to kill enemy stamper ^^


but if you talk about increas decrese cd decrese cooldown of soulbane for sure if you not have 94% cd 2 -3 min cooldown for a dmg skill WTFF
02/15/2013 15:17 justa#72
get rich or die. that's the same rule that applies to real life too.
02/15/2013 15:18 Withered#73
Well Soul Bane is supposed to be the ''ultimate attack'' and Suddo its 3-6k with it. I think the high cd on it is ok as there are enough skills who can be spammed.

Frost Armor is often bugged cause when being hit the Ele stops walking. That's really annoying during siege cause you get stuck everywhere either stunned or your char stops walking. Additionally, during stamping, any normal hit will cancel the stamping process while Eles have the dot buffed.. ffs xD

About the Knight barriers I'm not sure what to do.. basically it's imo rather a tactical skill than a permanent barrier.. The MS should be decreased too. Tanks have heavy armor why would they outrun classes with light armor who need to run to survive?

For a general rebalance you'd have to test sieges, shrine, bg, hh fights and normal 1 on 1 pvps as well as cf fights with differently built chars of each class (def/offensive builds, cd or pure dmg builds etc).
02/15/2013 15:18 KTiesto#74
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Originally Posted by Krython View Post
Who are u to tell me what to do? Get lost lowbie
ur father so ... go sleep
02/15/2013 16:02 Funnyking#75
accept! and dont complain about my gear.... and again i spend NOTHING for the game xD

-> if i win you take back what you said
-> if i win -> no excuses!!
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