Thread about unbalance/webzen

Hey all,
i just wanna ask if you think like me.
Letz start about Humans:
Knights:
Can easy tank 50x 120 Chars with fcking Perma Godlike, can have also good Crit dmg have most Movespeed ingame and have fcking much Hp,Deff,Ress.

Mage:
Anti Magic Pwns all.

Archer: Epic Casttime, epic Debuffs, epic Ele Dmg.! And fcking fast too.

Orcs are okay, not any so OP like Humans

About Scions we dont need to talk cause no one plays Scions...

And now Elfs

Elem?
Are the lowest Char atm in Archlord that sucks...

Swashys also not the best Chars

Ranger are okay nice skills blabla but no chance vs a epic archer mage or knight...

Webzen need to start a fcking rebalance its fcked up that can kill a lvl 80 knight 100+ Elfs easy with fcking Perma...

So anyone have any ideas that we can bring Webzen to do a rebalance?

Will hope so...

I understand that most of the people is frustrated with new rebalance... but, even if you create 300 post in Webzen forum or here, nothing will change, sounds bad but is the truth and you should already know how Webzen works

i know how Webzen works
If they have money they wont do anything i know i know...
Codemasters was 1000000000000000000000000000x better...

lol your arguments suxx !

you say elementalist is lowest char ?
- but why ?? i think they awesome for farm or lvl bcs you need 0 wc from 1-120 and i think the also can resist in 1 vs 1 vs a mage (maby ele can win too )

swash also not the best ?
- :facepalm: if a char is not the best ist not usefull to play ???
idk much about swash but he could be also nice (high ele dmg normal dmg ,
all tank stats on 80%+ with buff )

knight ( you not sayed lvl ) can tank 50 x 120 char ?
- wtf are you talking about this is crap 1 good kngiht can tank max 2 god
mage i would say / first for me is tanking not to spamm goodlike second
even if kngiht spamm godlike mage can steal enought buffs
and well you sayed nothing about lvl from knight so knight say he is lvl 71
(normal(without resetted chars ) minimum to spamm goodlike ) so now show
me any knight can tank 50 (also good plyaer) chars also if they not mage
only 1 sucesses fear and he MUST die vs 50 ppl -.-

@N30style

godlike isnt 100% anymore either.

You're an ele but dont know how to play one?

in a 1vs1 (not overpowered with goldtickets, etc) i think its balanced.
It's normal ele woudnt kill a knight in a fair 1vs1 fight.

i think it's more balanced than before.

And i agree, Codemasters was the funnest and balanced pvp (without overpowered items!!!)

share your opinion pls ;)

yes i agree with the last post.
knight is overpowered yes, but not easy to lvl and expensive to play.
ele is lower but way, way cheaper.
also i dont agree about scions, some people are starting to play scion and there are many with very good stuff that can deal fking crits or very nice dammage using skills. ( on zian they took 1 buff at rvr last thurday)
swash can tank, and with shrine armor and nice stuff it can be good, but i never saw a swash with this stuff ( but half of 120 knights got shrine stuff)

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Originally Posted by Mrn1c3guy lol your arguments suxx ! you say elementalist is lowest char ? - but why ?? i think they awesome for farm or lvl bcs you need 0 wc from 1-120 and i think the also can resist in 1 vs 1 vs a mage (maby ele can win too ) swash also not the best ? - :facepalm: if a char is not the best ist not usefull to play ??? idk much about swash but he could be also nice (high ele dmg normal dmg , all tank stats on 80%+ with buff ) knight ( you not sayed lvl ) can tank 50 x 120 char ? - wtf are you talking about this is crap 1 good kngiht can tank max 2 god mage i would say / first for me is tanking not to spamm goodlike second even if kngiht spamm godlike mage can steal enought buffs and well you sayed nothing about lvl from knight so knight say he is lvl 71 (normal(without resetted chars ) minimum to spamm goodlike ) so now show me any knight can tank 50 (also good plyaer) chars also if they not mage only 1 sucesses fear and he MUST die vs 50 ppl -.-

In full buff they can tank more than 50 chars easily np. If you are talking about self buff, you are right.

@ Topic starter: i agree on most of your points but we have to talk about the reason of the new rebalance: humans were totally bad. Everyone knows it. Ofc now it isn't better....at least for the non-humans. (Oh and actually not anti magic is the main problem with mages, because they have that skill since long time. Their defense is the biggest advantage now /80% crit resi, high dodge, high ele resistance, high hp/).
About orcs: nono they are not so weak. Every1 makes zerk now and hunter. Did you check these toons after rebalance? Sorc is definitely weaker, but still nice in 1v1 (and best support on siege).

Just my two cents. Thanks for reading.

No you dont understand me exactly...
I play Ranger btw...
But ask any really good lvl 120 Elem and he will tell you that ele is so fcking low atm...
I just think about the elfs and i mean a new really GOOD Rebalance would be fine for all of us...
Ya Knight is the expensives char ingame i agree.
But what brings you an elem that you can easy lvling from lvl 1-120 without much cc?
Nothing, RIGHT!
and its hard to lvl a knight xD?
come on it gives Janus,HH,SD
Easy in SD to lvl 107 np...
if you say Knight is expensive then think about the WCP
If you got enough Janus you can easy make a knight from lvl 1-120 in 1 month without problems bro =)

Well cost of knight:
- Gear him (hh gauntlets - 1 gt; hh armor idk but what i saw last days..omfg; on lv120 he needs full shrine to hit hard, we all know the price of these items, you pay or you wait; Abs parts /helmet/ is expensive too, i got mine for 5 scrolls and that was cheap; you need nice uniques because with glorious shuta and normal faren you won't hit so hard ^^)
- Lvl him in 1 month: so perma janus, perma lens+, perma combi ^^

Anyway i doubt you could get a knight geared in 1 month even with much wcp :D (I mean knight items are rare, idk how but they are)

Now old knight-players or those players own, who had enough ingame stuff to make a knight.

i didnt say knight was hard to lvl, but it's the hardest in my opinion.
of course there is SD etc but i wouldnt advice a knight to a beginner.
anyway thats offtopic so lets give it up :D

I think elves are good but people are quitters.

Only thing that's wrong is that the human race is completely overpowered right now. Put elves and orcs vs each other and it's a fair fight.

Put Humans vs all others and its not a fair fight :)
I know its going to be a offtopic but fck off
I hope they nerf little bit all humans
Mages 80% Crit deff (Y)
Thats epic
Make nice dmg can make anti and got good hp+ress
So yeah Mage fcks up like knight :D

omg this is the 3000º QQ topic ¬¬.

I dont know why, before rebalace, no one make a thread here to say, elf was overpowered, it's not fait bla bla bla.

I play an archer, so i can talk about: the only one pbm with archet is HP. Passive skill give too much HP.

For goodlike, yeah, perma is a pbm. But it's the only one pbm. Mage... Too much crit res and heal is so high. May be less elem res too can be good but idk.

Orc, np.

Elf, there is som really good ranger. Swash can make a lot of dmg and the last Al on zian was a swash, so can tank :) elem, idk. I saw few good elem in siege but i already killed them bcoz i dont play alone during siege... So no one can tank knight+sorc+mage+archer+summoner.

Scion, summoner is ok i think. Slayer need antistun and, fuck off, legendary slayer can't be 100% success (shrine sux). Orbiter... Need too many things.

But if u want best race, best char in siege, best char pvp 1v1, best char pvp 1v50, best char pve best char shrine... All in 1 char, it will not be a fair rebalance.

All char r usefull, but not all for the samething. AL is not a 1v1 pvp game for me so np.

I play ranger since episode 2, always as main char even if made some alts for fun.
I have nothing against Human Race and game it's pretty balanced. Ofc will NEVER be any "balance" or "rebalance" who will satisfy everybody, will always be criers who cant manage their chars then cry "OMG I die so fast, need a reblanace".
No mister, if u die in 1-2 sec vs most of classes then simply start a new char and choose which class fits u.

Ranger, Archer and Hunter are ranged class. In the most games ranged classes are DD or support, only in Archlord Hunter can be TANK, DD and SUPPORT in same time. That's what I call unbalanced.
Archer it's a very good DD but Archer die very fast against any crit class if dont have BG buffs. Yep, without BG buffs because these BG buffs are not something PERMANENT.
Ranger have lowest HP, Defense, Heroic Resist, Heroic Defense, but have good DMG and HH DMG. It's OK, for me.
Hunter have highest Dodge, HP, Heroic Resist and good SB, skill for Mana Consumption Decrease (which a ranged class should NEVER have it, this is a mage class skill like Sorc, Mage, Elem) and pretty good debuffs. Hunters also have skills "Cure" and "Hustler" which are VERY useful in all kind of fights, 1 vs 1 or big fights.

Stop cry about Knights. Knights are not so "immortal" as u try to show it.

When u talk about BALANCE dont compare a character with uniques 1 slot with a character with full Gold Tickets and rare uniques and realms.