FHEo Site Upgrades again

Kradel its a joke between them...lol

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Originally Posted by funhacker either way deadpool put in the work for at the least the text of it which imo is a royal ass so all you little jealous beans that think your smart for spoting a template toddle on :D

Well, actually I'm a professional web designer and when someone tries to take credit for changing text in a .fla file and claim its his work is not jealousy, trust me. Also, No i don't "think" I'm smart for spotting a template i simply just stated that it was a template. So, For everyone who got offended for me saying it was a template...sorry. Sorry for hurting anyone's feelings :rolleyes: once again, feel free to post your opinion but like i said SORRY! for stating it was a template.

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Originally Posted by nuclearfusion Well, actually I'm a professional web designer and when someone tries to take credit for changing text in a .fla file and claim its his work is not jealousy, trust me. Also, No i don't "think" I'm smart for spotting a template i simply just stated that it was a template. So, For everyone who got offended for me saying it was a template...sorry. Sorry for hurting anyone's feelings :rolleyes: once again, feel free to post your opinion but like i said SORRY! for stating it was a template.

professional or not imo half the so called "professional" web designers suck they make something that even frontpage could do better charge 100s of $ and leave it at that but then you get 14-16y/o kids that put in 1/2 the effort with all free software and do a site alot better then those so called professionals so on a final note idc if you invented HTML or Flash

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Originally Posted by funhacker professional or not imo half the so called "professional" web designers suck they make something that even frontpage could do better charge 100s of $ and leave it at that but then you get 14-16y/o kids that put in 1/2 the effort with all free software and do a site alot better then those so called professionals so on a final note idc if you invented HTML or Flash

lmao, good point with the 16 yr old kids, its rather sad that you can googly Monster Template Torrents and download about 1000+ of them, then do the same for MacroMedia Flash 8. Poof look free stuff and free progs. What annoys me the most is people will charge like 60$ for the template itself. Then charge you like 49 dollars just to put your logo on the template. 49$ for a total of like 5 seconds worth of work..WTF.. then turn around and charge you 600+ to change the content of it. Screenshot below shows that one.

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Originally Posted by DEADP00L lmao, good point with the 16 yr old kids, its rather sad that you can googly Monster Template Torrents and download about 1000+ of them, then do the same for MacroMedia Flash 8. Poof look free stuff and free progs. What annoys me the most is people will charge like 60$ for the template itself. Then charge you like 49 dollars just to put your logo on the template. 49$ for a total of like 5 seconds worth of work..WTF.. then turn around and charge you 600+ to change the content of it. Screenshot below shows that one. [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Websites such as TemplateMonster offer services that are aimed for large corporations and companies and the like. These potential clients have the budget and strategic spending plan for this sort of thing, and TemplateMonster adheres to this parallel through the high quality and matching prices of its templates.

After all, there's more money to be made in rich people; it's just basing your service on your market and creating an infrastructure pricing and quality control from that.

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Originally Posted by Kradel Websites such as TemplateMonster offer services that are aimed for large corporations and companies and the like. These potential clients have the budget and strategic spending plan for this sort of thing, and TemplateMonster adheres to this parallel through the high quality and matching prices of its templates. After all, there's more money to be made in rich people; it's just basing your service on your market and creating an infrastructure pricing and quality control from that.

Point but even being in business myself before i have always found i make more money aiming for the little people with out that big of a budget and tayloring my services around them. After all there are more of them than their are the rick snobs. That and i cant stand rich snobs

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Originally Posted by Kradel Websites such as TemplateMonster offer services that are aimed for large corporations and companies and the like. These potential clients have the budget and strategic spending plan for this sort of thing, and TemplateMonster adheres to this parallel through the high quality and matching prices of its templates. After all, there's more money to be made in rich people; it's just basing your service on your market and creating an infrastructure pricing and quality control from that.

Well your wrong its mostly LAZY people that go for that people that cant be assed looking for REAL talent Big Money making companies make money because they are a bunch of tight asses so they wouldnt waste money like that on something so sad they could outsource to a forum some kid would do a $1000 job for $50

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Originally Posted by DEADP00L Point but even being in business myself before i have always found i make more money aiming for the little people with out that big of a budget and tayloring my services around them. After all there are more of them than their are the rick snobs. That and i cant stand rich snobs

unless your product takes a shit load of hands on time then you are always best to aim it towards lower income earners, otherwise be like ferari and make it hard to even be on a waiting list xD
and agree on the rich snobs I cant stand anyone thats been handed life those that earnt it then yea ok but at the same time who the **** needs billions of dollars its stupid

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Originally Posted by funhacker professional or not imo half the so called "professional" web designers suck they make something that even frontpage could do better charge 100s of $ and leave it at that but then you get 14-16y/o kids that put in 1/2 the effort with all free software and do a site alot better then those so called professionals so on a final note idc if you invented HTML or Flash

Actually, Age doesn't matter, I started learning when i was 14 and let me rephrase that, I'm a freelance web designer but i consider my work "professional" actually my full time career is a carpenter and yes...A lot of the so called "professionals" do suck but my point being, I can't see how people can claim work that wasn't done by them. Like i said, I'm a full time carpenter so if i came and just stacked a roof and everything else wasn't done by me i wouldn't go and claim that i built that house...since all i did was stack the roof.

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Originally Posted by nuclearfusion Actually, Age doesn't matter, I started learning when i was 14 and let me rephrase that, I'm a freelance web designer but i consider my work "professional" actually my full time career is a carpenter and yes...A lot of the so called "professionals" do suck but my point being, I can't see how people can claim work that wasn't done by them. Like i said, I'm a full time carpenter so if i came and just stacked a roof and everything else wasn't done by me i wouldn't go and claim that i built that house...since all i did was stack the roof.

at that same time when you build a house do you say you built it? yes you would doesnt mean you designed the basic form of a house same thing with a table or this "template"

"Site was Customized By Me (hence the Suffer Insanity Inc On the Bottom)"

note what he says there, he didnt say I coded this site from ground up without any examples

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Originally Posted by funhacker Well your wrong its mostly LAZY people that go for that people that cant be assed looking for REAL talent Big Money making companies make money because they are a bunch of tight asses so they wouldnt waste money like that on something so sad they could outsource to a forum some kid would do a $1000 job for $50

Matters not about what the ifs and they-could-haves are, point is, large companies pay large amounts of money for website templates. Templatemonster knows this, and their owners are know doubt well off. The market does not discern from pricks, or tight asses, or wise guys, or forum kids; the market discerns from those with money, and those without. And no, not a single self-respecting company is going to send a representative to some forum to ask some kid to create for them a functional website. Not in a million years.

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Originally Posted by funhacker "Site was Customized By Me (hence the Suffer Insanity Inc On the Bottom)" note what he says there, he didnt say I coded this site from ground up without any examples

Before the argument, before he edited it, it said "Site was made by me..." He even offered to make templates for others in a later post, implying that he created the first one.
Hence, the turbulence.

Hmm idk what to say but the way i see it if i buy something it is mine i dont calim that i made it but i claim that i own it and if i edit it i wll calim that i own it and i edited it and it is mine but customized .

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Originally Posted by funhacker at that same time when you build a house do you say you built it? yes you would doesnt mean you designed the basic form of a house same thing with a table or this "template" "Site was Customized By Me (hence the Suffer Insanity Inc On the Bottom)" note what he says there, he didnt say I coded this site from ground up without any examples

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Originally Posted by Kradel Before the argument, before he edited it, it said "Site was made by me..." He even offered to make templates for others in a later post, implying that he created the first one. Hence, the turbulence.

Exactly, He said "Site was made by me" and no i wouldn't say i built the house if all i did was the roof. I would say i built the roof. If a house was already built and it needed an extra wall added in and i came and did that wall, no way in hell would i ever claim the construction of that house.

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Originally Posted by Kradel Matters not about what the ifs and they-could-haves are, point is, large companies pay large amounts of money for website templates. Templatemonster knows this, and their owners are know doubt well off. The market does not discern from pricks, or tight asses, or wise guys, or forum kids; the market discerns from those with money, and those without. And no, not a single self-respecting company is going to send a representative to some forum to ask some kid to create for them a functional website. Not in a million years. Before the argument, before he edited it, it said "Site was made by me..." He even offered to make templates for others in a later post, implying that he created the first one. Hence, the turbulence.

being a smartass wont help you here as bad as it may sound all sucessful companies go for results and cost so dont try to preach crap like you some ceo of a major corporation, it still comes to fact that in some way he did create it, he and bebi will say they created FHEO, they didnt code the client the server or the database but yet that statement is still true, but then ANY sentence can be said to be wrong in the "eye of the beholder" as words can mean what you want them to mean

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Originally Posted by nuclearfusion Exactly, He said "Site was made by me" and no i wouldn't say i built the house if all i did was the roof. I would say i built the roof. If a house was already built and it needed an extra wall added in and i came and did that wall, no way in hell would i ever claim the construction of that house.

exactly you would say you built the roof you didnt make the basic concept of a roof though right your going off what you were taught about basic capentry or experience of building roofs with your old mentor/teacher which all comes to the part where without the guy that initially designed the roof you wouldnt be able to build one, thus without the template he wouldnt of built that site so quit the bitchin :D

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Originally Posted by funhacker being a smartass wont help you here as bad as it may sound all sucessful companies go for results and cost so dont try to preach crap like you some ceo of a major corporation, it still comes to fact that in some way he did create it, he and bebi will say they created FHEO, they didnt code the client the server or the database but yet that statement is still true, but then ANY sentence can be said to be wrong in the "eye of the beholder" as words can mean what you want them to mean

Because I speak in complete sentence and know the functions of a comma and a clause...I have to be a smartass?

Seeing as how you refuse to believe in reality, I refuse to continue this conversation. I've got evidence, you've got opinion. Just because I know what I'm talking about, and you just assume what must be true, ..

You know what, nevermind. I'm tired of having to discredit nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Kradel Because I speak in complete sentence and know the functions of a comma and a clause...I have to be a smartass? Seeing as how you refuse to believe in reality, I refuse to continue this conversation. I've got evidence, you've got opinion. Just because I know what I'm talking about, and you just assume what must be true, .. You know what, nevermind. I'm tired of having to discredit nonsense.

Oh you want actual sentence structure? I can do that as you can plainly see, but I chose not to in a simple forum.

When someone resorts to the comment of "your sentence structure sucks" it is a clear sign that you have nothing better to say. I am not saying he didn't create the site or the template, but he never actually said "I coded this from bottom, up" he said "I created this" you may perceive this how you like. Thus the comment "eye of the beholder".