Project Sylvanass

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Originally Posted by sircla Sylvanas vs. Blizz is like David vs Goliath. The fact that they've lasted this long and are still going is impressive. I dont know what Tamed is thinking. Its like hes not acknowledging this whole situation at all. Maybe hes just biased towards pixel and unlockers.. who knows.

If you ask silvy then she is Goliath not David tho. The whole situation is only like that cause she has to taunt Blizzard with every update she pushes. Its nothing new that bots are under attack from Blizzard. That has always been the case and yes its not bad that she counters them all, but its not as impressive as she wants you to think it is. She is very good in making herself look good to the community - thats all.

If i get him right, hes not even really hating on ps at all but just points out how bad the rotations are compared to other tools that are on the market. As an internal she has it so much easier to shine rotation wise then a pixel has, but still she looses these battle against hekili auto clicker pixels that are on the market.

Thats not really hating on a product but speaking out the truth. When you look at the ps discord you see a lot of the users complain about the rotations and i think that is his point and i think its fair.

I only tested for 2 days a while back and it was absolute trash what they had at that time rotation wise. Im sure there is a few scripts that are doing good by now, but the majority of the rotations still seem to be not really good.

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Originally Posted by sircla Sylvanas vs. Blizz is like David vs Goliath. The fact that they've lasted this long and are still going is impressive. I dont know what Tamed is thinking. Its like hes not acknowledging this whole situation at all. Maybe hes just biased towards pixel and unlockers.. who knows.

Alright, I get what you're saying, but let's drop the Shakespearean drama. This isn't David and Goliath, dude. You really think Blizzard has a whole army of 200 security researchers just focused on some tiny cheat dev? Please. They probably have a couple of guys for all of WoW's platforms, and PS is just another headache, not their number one target. Everyone in this scene deals with this stuff; it's nothing special.

Honestly, PS got exactly what they wanted: attention. They started running their mouth publicly, talking trash about Blizzard, and they got humbled...hard. And they'll probably get humbled again because Silvi can't seem to control her emotions and has to go on these wild, public rants. It's just embarrassing.

Look, I'm tired of repeating myself. You guys are either deaf or can't read. I've said it a hundred times: my problem isn't the core of their product. It's the absolutely garbage rotations, except for a few decent ones. It's the insane censorship where they ban people for using an emoji they don't like. And it's their so-called "developer," Silvi, and her constant, attention-grabbing rants that are just begging for trouble.

And to be honest, I'm not even sure Silvi is the real developer. I've been around devs in this scene for over a decade, and I've never seen one act this childish and toxic. This isn't the mindset of a reverse engineer. This is the behavior of someone with a low IQ who has zero emotional control. It's a joke, and is mocked in private discords behind the scenes, and even in public Discord servers with reputable developers and users who aren't out there trying to SIMP for their mentally unstable queen.

This is the last time I'm going to reply to this thread from this point on; you can all rant with yourselves over this.

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Originally Posted by sansaria21 If you ask silvy then she is Goliath not David tho. The whole situation is only like that cause she has to taunt Blizzard with every update she pushes. Its nothing new that bots are under attack from Blizzard. That has always been the case and yes its not bad that she counters them all, but its not as impressive as she wants you to think it is. She is very good in making herself look good to the community - thats all. If i get him right, hes not even really hating on ps at all but just points out how bad the rotations are compared to other tools that are on the market. As an internal she has it so much easier to shine rotation wise then a pixel has, but still she looses these battle against hekili auto clicker pixels that are on the market. Thats not really hating on a product but speaking out the truth. When you look at the ps discord you see a lot of the users complain about the rotations and i think that is his point and i think its fair. I only tested for 2 days a while back and it was absolute trash what they had at that time rotation wise. Im sure there is a few scripts that are doing good by now, but the majority of the rotations still seem to be not really good.

Exactly this, these guys are badly enraged at this point, they're just screaming but not reading anything. Logic for them just doesn't exist. It's like debating a bunch of autistic apes.

Don’t use if you don’t want create new accounts every month ��

Steer away buddy not a wise choice.

Tbh everytime they announce something on discord its either detection or compensation for detection bans

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast How much did you get paid to come out and shill for Silvi? Sounds like something written by the propaganda department at Project Sylvanas. Nothing personal about posting facts. Project Sylvanas was detected, and many users got banned. That's the facts. Saying it got detected and users got banned is slander now? Lmao, tell me you're a shill without telling me you're a shill. I bet you guys all have a private Discord channel where you come onto the forums to sway public opinion after a detection happened, or try to up play the rotations to make it seem like they're better than they are :lul: Go back to your echo chamber in PS Discord and glaze each other.

What's wrong with you lol? Weird behavior...

Anyways I've been using PS on and off for about 2 months, prior to the ban wave I used it to get a few classes to level cap in retail and 1 to cap in MOP.

I also used it a decent amount for arena PvP and got about 1850 rating before the season ended.

I was not banned during this wave, but the discord team did acknowledge a wave did happen, they did say it was only like 30 users though.

Overall i like PS, it's got the least in terms of cost to entry and setup is very easy. Download and activate a profile via their dashboard, login, and good to go. The scope of it seems good, there's still alot of untapped potential, but I overall dislike the community.

Most days its just a bunch of edge lords- admin team doesn't do anything about it either. There is a lot of downtime like another user said.

Despite tamed being a weirdo in this thread, he is right- any of these memory platforms WILL get detected at some point.

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Originally Posted by Breakdown88 What's wrong with you lol? Weird behavior... Anyways I've been using PS on and off for about 2 months, prior to the ban wave I used it to get a few classes to level cap in retail and 1 to cap in MOP. I also used it a decent amount for arena PvP and got about 1850 rating before the season ended. I was not banned during this wave, but the discord team did acknowledge a wave did happen, they did say it was only like 30 users though. Overall i like PS, it's got the least in terms of cost to entry and setup is very easy. Download and activate a profile via their dashboard, login, and good to go. The scope of it seems good, there's still alot of untapped potential, but I overall dislike the community. Most days its just a bunch of edge lords- admin team doesn't do anything about it either. There is a lot of downtime like another user said. Despite tamed being a weirdo in this thread, he is right- any of these memory platforms WILL get detected at some point.

This is lie. More 30

It's funny that when you go to their discord #announcements you can see at least 4 posts regarding ban waves. Remember, they went paid on February 1st 2025. It's so funny to read their CHAT GPT shit drama, things like
"They (Blizzard) began to lose tempo, their attacks became less effective, and it became clear they started to run out of bullets. Meanwhile, we improved our defenses, adapted faster, and still have resources and tricks we haven’t even needed to deploy yet. They tried to kill us yet all they managed to do is make us stronger."
What kind of fanfic is this? This shit is being detected every month and all they can say is "We consider small banwaves and fluctuating downtime a success, because they mean Blizzard has not been able to land a real blow like they do with many other providers. Some seasons will be peaceful, others will be much tougher, but this ebb and flow is part of staying safe at the scale we operate."
How many users do you think they have? I would say at maximum 300. Just check their #giveaway channel to see how many want free subscriptions.

They are not worth "a real blow like they do with many other providers" because they are not big enough like Elk once was. Blizzard just randomly bans 10% of their user base to keep them in dark whenever that happens lmao

I once considered joining them but I'm glad I never did

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast Clearly, either you haven't, or you've been missing for the last week. There was a significant number of users who got banned within the last week or so using Project Sylvanas.

It's funny how the developer (Silvi) lies to his buyers about the safety of his product as well as the rotation developers under him. I've used PS and been banned twice mostly using it in Blitz and on alts doing daily's etc, never made anything look obvious and yet still got banned which shows there is a leak in their product. I don't know the safety of it today but I wouldn't be using it again. Crazy how they always think you have used another bot or software like theirs never gets detected.

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Originally Posted by Malevolent0 It's funny how the developer (Silvi) lies to his buyers about the safety of his product as well as the rotation developers under him. I've used PS and been banned twice mostly using it in Blitz and on alts doing daily's etc, never made anything look obvious and yet still got banned which shows there is a leak in their product. I don't know the safety of it today but I wouldn't be using it again. Crazy how they always think you have used another bot or software like theirs never gets detected.

They should have stayed in the league scene, but they moved to WOW, thinking it would be easy money, and for a while, that was true; they deceived people with many promises, but ultimately failed to deliver on most, if not all, of them.

There was/is a mix of poor leadership choices and unqualified developers who were at best mid-level, making rotations and plugins from AI and copying and pasting rotations from Hekili and SimC. I think you'll never see any household-name developer do anything for PS until they can address their leadership issues and clean up the mess on their platform.

I think Silvi figured that if she convinced as many 3rd party developers as possible to develop on PS, it would boost the platform's reputation. The problem was that these developers she recruited had no influence or reputation in the WoW scene. Instead, almost all of them just created AI-generated crap rotations, minus, like, I think, 1 of them, which was okayish.

I believe the next major problem with her loyal followers, the "Simps," was that they simply repeated (parroted) everything they were told to say in an effort to influence public opinion. I think it was all quite deliberate and purposeful. The issue was with people like myself and others who have been part of the scene for two decades; this wasn't going to fool us, and we were vocal about it, and we still are.

Most people who played at a high level quickly pointed out this slop, and really, PS has become the scene meme. This was their own doing. They thought they could "fake it till they make it," but the problem is people in this scene are privy to these types of things; they've seen it one too many times before.

The bans didn't improve the situation either, and the attempt to downplay them only made things worse, both by their loyal fans and themselves.

I think the slippery slope really started when the "ban list" was a thing on their website, and they conveniently left themselves off it. This just ruined all their credibility as a platform that was serious about the product itself.

Perhaps they will change their ways, and all of this will be a thing of the past, but I'm doubtful as long as Silvi leads that project; I believe we will continue to see that circus. Rants will go on, poorly managed rotations will remain a problem, and dismissing security events will carry on. Promising things will get done when they don't will still be common. I think the overall idea of PS was good, but it really just lacked mature leadership and a clear vision, on top of poor execution and a general disrespect for the scene as a whole. They only saw this as a means to an end; they were never passionate about wow.

As the saying goes, "chassez le naturel, il revient au galop."

I've used PS since it was in beta and that's coming up on a year an half and haven't caught an ban or anything along those lines. I honestly feel the ones that get banned are using unhuman like features I.E kicks and interrupts that no human could do and then they get reported by players and then Blizzard takes a look at the logs and bans them. That comes down to the users not the product, if you play and use it like a normal player would play then you have nothing to worry about. But if you use it like bot playing then expect to get banned. Dont be mad because you got banned for playing like a super human kicking and interrupting skills before they even know that they are going to cast them.

silvy is not a she silly.

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Originally Posted by Whothisbe I've used PS since it was in beta and that's coming up on a year an half and haven't caught an ban or anything along those lines. I honestly feel the ones that get banned are using unhuman like features I.E kicks and interrupts that no human could do and then they get reported by players and then Blizzard takes a look at the logs and bans them. That comes down to the users not the product, if you play and use it like a normal player would play then you have nothing to worry about. But if you use it like bot playing then expect to get banned. Dont be mad because you got banned for playing like a super human kicking and interrupting skills before they even know that they are going to cast them.

Just false.

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Originally Posted by Whothisbe I've used PS since it was in beta and that's coming up on a year an half and haven't caught an ban or anything along those lines. I honestly feel the ones that get banned are using unhuman like features I.E kicks and interrupts that no human could do and then they get reported by players and then Blizzard takes a look at the logs and bans them. That comes down to the users not the product, if you play and use it like a normal player would play then you have nothing to worry about. But if you use it like bot playing then expect to get banned. Dont be mad because you got banned for playing like a super human kicking and interrupting skills before they even know that they are going to cast them.

NICE TRY DIDDY

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Originally Posted by Whothisbe I've used PS since it was in beta and that's coming up on a year an half and haven't caught a ban or anything along those lines. I honestly feel the ones that get banned are using unhuman like features I.E kicks and interrupts that no human could do and then they get reported by players and then Blizzard takes a look at the logs and bans them. That comes down to the users not the product, if you play and use it like a normal player would play then you have nothing to worry about. But if you use it like bot playing then expect to get banned. Dont be mad because you got banned for playing like a super human kicking and interrupting skills before they even know that they are going to cast them.

Pve players not reporting for unhuman kicks in mob.

This product totally detected if watch PS discord (alerts thread)

It funny when users cry when ps going off in raid time

Silvi saying that this is undetected and blizzard are running "special" attacks makes me laugh so hard haha.. And all white knights kissing her feet