[DEV] CoEmu v5156 flatfile based.

01/24/2010 12:04 .Ocularis#31
Why not just release it, but without the source? Just release a built version and pack it?
01/24/2010 12:31 ImmuneOne#32
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Originally Posted by Mentalis View Post
Why not just release it, but without the source? Just release a built version and pack it?
What would be the use of just the executable?
01/24/2010 12:35 sawickas#33
Realais only packet it will inaf.
01/24/2010 14:40 ImmuneOne#34
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Originally Posted by sawickas View Post
Realais only packet it will inaf.
What packet? I gave you guys everything needed to convert coemu to 5156 but every single one that read my thread failed to do it. That's why I'm creating this source.
01/24/2010 14:56 sawickas#35
So its no reason ask for realais it or only yuo one know how yuo want realais it or no! XD
01/31/2010 22:05 sonofskeletor#36
This Is The Source My Brother Paid You For To Make. Thats Rude!
01/31/2010 22:45 renetjuuh#37
im saying no to release it ,because people have to learn coding by there own
01/31/2010 23:01 pro4never#38
I'm saying yes for one very large reason.

Replace 5156 lotf.

Seriously. CoEmu (even the base version) is infinitely better than any version of lotf I've seen (yes, I'm fully aware CoEmu has some serious problems too, but for a publicly released source that's not just a framework it's damn good)

Re-writing much of it and converting it to a newer patch would be a breath off fresh air into the stagnated pserver community. You have no idea how much I'd like to be able to write more features and functionality for a source that someone actually cares about. Hell I finished an entire quest for CoEmu last week and was like 'why bother releasing it.. of the people who do seem to use CoEmu still they either A: don't want help cause they know what they are doing or B: can't understand the first thing about what I'd post'. While I suppose a similar argument can be made against an updated CoEmu version, improving the pserver community as a whole starts with yourself. Saying no one tries hard enough, no one releases anything worth using, it's all just copy/paste noobs etcis in some part due to your own failure to put something into the community.

Note: last part is not an attack on anyone, least of all the thread starter. Just saying that to improve the community you have to TRY to improve the community.
02/01/2010 00:36 ImmuneOne#39
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Originally Posted by pro4never View Post
I'm saying yes for one very large reason.

Replace 5156 lotf.

Seriously. CoEmu (even the base version) is infinitely better than any version of lotf I've seen (yes, I'm fully aware CoEmu has some serious problems too, but for a publicly released source that's not just a framework it's damn good)

Re-writing much of it and converting it to a newer patch would be a breath off fresh air into the stagnated pserver community. You have no idea how much I'd like to be able to write more features and functionality for a source that someone actually cares about. Hell I finished an entire quest for CoEmu last week and was like 'why bother releasing it.. of the people who do seem to use CoEmu still they either A: don't want help cause they know what they are doing or B: can't understand the first thing about what I'd post'. While I suppose a similar argument can be made against an updated CoEmu version, improving the pserver community as a whole starts with yourself. Saying no one tries hard enough, no one releases anything worth using, it's all just copy/paste noobs etcis in some part due to your own failure to put something into the community.

Note: last part is not an attack on anyone, least of all the thread starter. Just saying that to improve the community you have to TRY to improve the community.
Exactly,

I guess some of your points are right but I doubt the trying to improve the community, as you said CoEmu will be used also because it's at the same patch as that LOTF source. But don't forget we're talking about the co2 section it's too late already. As soon as I release it, they will ask about how to set it up, connect to the client and add in new features.

As long I got my own base I'm not bothering releasing this.
02/01/2010 04:18 chickmagnet#40
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Originally Posted by ImmuneOne View Post
Exactly,

I guess some of your points are right but I doubt the trying to improve the community, as you said CoEmu will be used also because it's at the same patch as that LOTF source. But don't forget we're talking about the co2 section it's too late already. As soon as I release it, they will ask about how to set it up, connect to the client and add in new features.

As long I got my own base I'm not bothering releasing this.
it is all u wat ever makes u happy:D
02/01/2010 06:28 _tao4229_#41
lol coemu isn't that much better tbh.

lotf just has a bad rep.
02/01/2010 07:07 pro4never#42
Ok... Attack calculations? That alone makes me have no faith in lotf. That the attack calculations are SO messed up is not a good indicator for the rest of the source.

having looked at old lotf in passing the rest of it was just as bad. Poor organization, lots of flaws with just about every release I've seen for it, etc.

Not saying the source COULDN'T be improved, just saying why bother? It's got so many flaws and has no advantages whatsoever. The ONLY advantage it has is being on a newer patch and there is already information available for people wanting to update coemu to the new patch (granted, it's not the simplest thing to do but it's certainly possible)


*sigh* I need to stop coding. I keep starting random mini projects to avoid doing any other work. Seriously. Tonight alone I did 3 projects (most of which failed/gave up on but still, that's alot of wasted time!)
02/01/2010 07:18 ~Yuki~#43
PPL get cash together n weŽll give tanel some lessonŽs in math kk?
02/01/2010 21:23 _tao4229_#44
he doesn't need math lessons, he needs c+p lessons from CO forums.

one algorithm doesn't stand for the work of the source either.
02/01/2010 21:57 ImmuneOne#45
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Originally Posted by _tao4229_ View Post
he doesn't need math lessons, he needs c+p lessons from CO forums.

one algorithm doesn't stand for the work of the source either.
I'm not releasing the CoEmu version anymore, I just wrote a new base as a better start instead of messy/buggy sources.