[UNOFFICIAL] List Of Legit and Scam Providers List

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Originally Posted by Cotto45 What's unfortunate about this entire thing @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] is that the drama involving EC discord was enough for you to place them on the untrusted section but when all the AimMaster drama was (is) unveiling you didn't move them from the list but just changed them to 'Unknown' have to keep the ego and biases aside when controlling these lists as the user base does have reliance on your opinion and creation of the list.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load TLDR: You didn’t list EC as untrusted because of safety, complaints, detections, or anything factual. You did it because you got kicked, threw a tantrum, and needed a justification. Your entire post is emotional, biased, and built on outdated drama and rumors. You are full of shit, and everyone can see it.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load You are genuinely full of shit, and it shows in every paragraph. Let me go through your points real quick. 1. EC is untrusted because I was kicked from their Discord. So you admit the entire decision is based on your ego and nothing else. No detection, no scam, no issue.. just you getting removed. That alone shows your list is worthless. I could already stop here but let’s look at the other points. 2. We had an agreement that I’ll never be kicked. There was no contract, no written agreement, nothing. You were in the Discord as long as you behaved normally. Once you started acting biased, shilling NBT, and talking down EC while pretending to be neutral, you were removed. End of story. You were not some official inspector. You were a guest. Stop pretending otherwise. 3. Mass customer complaints. The mass complaints you keep crying about are the same three people from a year ago (Astro, Warlord, Fed), one of which is back at EC and happy. There are no new complaints. You are recycling old drama to justify your explosion of emotions. 4. NBT was tier 1 but EC wasn’t. You didn’t answer questions. You praised NBT’s history while ignoring EC’s decade-long record. You praised their menu while shitting on another cheat that uses the same style. Your double standards were obvious to everyone, that’s why you were removed. 5. Since I was banned, I can’t confirm complaints, so untrusted. This logic is beyond stupid. Nothing changed about the product. No bans, no detection, no scam, no issues. The only thing that changed is your personal access. So you punished EC because you can’t lurk anymore. That’s not safety, that’s petty. 6. No new features in 1.5–2 years. You don’t even use the product, so you have no idea what is added or changed. Half the things you are claiming are outdated or simply wrong. And even if development slowed, that has nothing to do with trustworthiness. Being untrusted because a menu update was not fast enough? You are delusional. 7. Refunds for gamebans and Hercules issues. You don’t know shit about Hercules nor does any customer. You are repeating Discord rumors like a child. We show live ban stats and detection logs publicly, surprise, no mass bans, no waves, nothing. If there were actual issues, there would be real evidence, not my sources told me. 8. Mass bans of users from Discord. People get banned for breaking rules. We enforce our rules on our private cheat very thoroughly. Just because we don’t publish a spreadsheet for you doesn’t mean anything. You are demanding proof for bans in a private Discord server like you are some kind of authority. You are NOT. 9. I defended EC before. Yeah, and now you attack EC because your feelings got hurt. Your defense changes depending on whether you anre inside the Discord or outside it. That tells everyone everything they need to know about your credibility. TLDR: You didn’t list EC as untrusted because of safety, complaints, detections, or anything factual. You did it because you got kicked, threw a tantrum, and needed a justification. Your entire post is emotional, biased, and built on outdated drama and rumors. You are full of shit, and everyone can see it.

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Originally Posted by Cotto45 What's unfortunate about this entire thing @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] is that the drama involving EC discord was enough for you to place them on the untrusted section but when all the AimMaster drama was (is) unveiling you didn't move them from the list but just changed them to 'Unknown' have to keep the ego and biases aside when controlling these lists as the user base does have reliance on your opinion and creation of the list.

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Originally Posted by AnonUser30 Are we really starting the beef again. Happens every 5-10 pages. How about if they don’t even care about being on the list remove evilcheats from the list. Since everyone wants to bitch and moan and it’s affecting the list in negative ways..

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Originally Posted by HVH_KINGPIN_NN_BLASTER Its a classic situation. ACUS realizes he is a fucking idiot and when a cheat better in literally every way (except EC being out for an extra year) comes out he throws a temper tantrum. In general his remark was complaints about every other cheats bypass (and how they lack spoofers, are not a true bypass, or whatever the fuck). When the competition has a similar bypass to his, he cannot use this powerful debate tactic and as such falls over rewriting a menu to make it look like some shit chatgpt made using electron (with his history of using webviews, it probably is). Putting a new menu wont make the cheat any better. Personally i think we need to stop being pussies and settle the drama in a reasonable way. 5v5 hvh tourney, EC vs NBT, winner picks others placement on the list. TLDR: Gear up or shut up pussy.

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Originally Posted by alexpsp00 drama vs detection You can read the thread though to see that there are plenty of issues with EC atleast according to users. Most people who bring the issues to attention simply get banned from the cheat. I dont see how he threw any tantrums and i still dont understand why he was removed from your discord in the first place. The only reason for me even responding to this is because i dont think lort deserves the hate when he is trying to maintain the list, youve already made him remove the tiers even though you were listed as a tier 2 provider. Whats it going to take? Do you want to run this list? My first interaction with EC was your staff calling my product pasted because I use a self hosted open source crypto payment processor... I can only imagine what your users have to deal with.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load We didn’t make him remove tiers. He did that entirely on his own because he couldn’t handle being questioned about the double standards he created. At no point did we ask, pressure, or demand that he remove tiers. That was his decision after people called out the inconsistencies. As for plenty of issues: If you actually read the thread instead of repeating the same old talking points, you would see it’s the same handful of users from a year ago, some of whom were banned, refunded, or literally back using EC again. There is was never a mass wave of complaints, no detections, no safety issues. It’s the same recycled drama again. And the idea that everyone who brings up issues gets banned is simply false. People get banned for breaking terms. That’s normal moderation, not some conspiracy. No tantrums? Flipping a provider’s status to untrusted purely because he was kicked without any new evidence, detection, proof, or recent event is the definition of a tantrum. The timing speaks for itself. I do not want to run this list nor did I ever wanted to be on this list, now I am on this list and I’m allowed to speak for Evilcheats, if he removes me, it’s a different story. My staff called your website pasted because the port for your self-hosted open-source payment processor was exposed publicly. That’s basic laziness and objectively bad security. And let’s not pretend you were innocent after that.. You bragged about DDoSing his blood sugar monitoring website and then wished death on him. So if you want to talk about what users have to deal with, maybe start there.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load And let’s not pretend you were innocent after that.. You bragged about DDoSing his blood sugar monitoring website and then wished death on him. So if you want to talk about what users have to deal with, maybe start there.

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Originally Posted by AnonUser30 So no 5v5 hvh orrrr? Nice dodge cuck

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Originally Posted by alexpsp00 It was proxied, exact same setup as my current processor [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] you are welcome to check yourself with nmap or similar, but you believe whatever you wish mr. As for this blood sugar monitor that was Linus which although involved in the project was not me. (Linus never dealt with customers for this very reason)

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load Same as my staff Ross who is involved in the project but not me. 😊

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Originally Posted by alexpsp00 lol he was not the only staff acting this way, only the tip of the iceberg but oh well.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load For sure, I can guarantee you that none of my staff would wish death on anybody but they are also all grown up. You being hung up in my staff pointing out an exposed payment-system url is meh.

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Originally Posted by alexpsp00 They pointed out something not true while sperging at another provider for no reason, real nice staff. Youve clearly made up your mind on this but this is a re occuring issue hopefully you will realize the cause of that one day.

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Originally Posted by alexpsp00 They pointed out something not true while sperging at another provider for no reason, real nice staff. Youve clearly made up your mind on this but this is a re occuring issue hopefully you will realize the cause of that one day.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load You are genuinely full of shit, and it shows in every paragraph. Let me go through your points real quick. 1. EC is untrusted because I was kicked from their Discord. So you admit the entire decision is based on your ego and nothing else. No detection, no scam, no issue.. just you getting removed. That alone shows your list is worthless. I could already stop here but let’s look at the other points. 2. We had an agreement that I’ll never be kicked. There was no contract, no written agreement, nothing. You were in the Discord as long as you behaved normally. Once you started acting biased, shilling NBT, and talking down EC while pretending to be neutral, you were removed. End of story. You were not some official inspector. You were a guest. Stop pretending otherwise. 3. Mass customer complaints. The mass complaints you keep crying about are the same three people from a year ago (Astro, Warlord, Fed), one of which is back at EC and happy. There are no new complaints. You are recycling old drama to justify your explosion of emotions. 4. NBT was tier 1 but EC wasn’t. You didn’t answer questions. You praised NBT’s history while ignoring EC’s decade-long record. You praised their menu while shitting on another cheat that uses the same style. Your double standards were obvious to everyone, that’s why you were removed. 5. Since I was banned, I can’t confirm complaints, so untrusted. This logic is beyond stupid. Nothing changed about the product. No bans, no detection, no scam, no issues. The only thing that changed is your personal access. So you punished EC because you can’t lurk anymore. That’s not safety, that’s petty. 6. No new features in 1.5–2 years. You don’t even use the product, so you have no idea what is added or changed. Half the things you are claiming are outdated or simply wrong. And even if development slowed, that has nothing to do with trustworthiness. Being untrusted because a menu update was not fast enough? You are delusional. 7. Refunds for gamebans and Hercules issues. You don’t know shit about Hercules nor does any customer. You are repeating Discord rumors like a child. We show live ban stats and detection logs publicly, surprise, no mass bans, no waves, nothing. If there were actual issues, there would be real evidence, not my sources told me. 8. Mass bans of users from Discord. People get banned for breaking rules. We enforce our rules on our private cheat very thoroughly. Just because we don’t publish a spreadsheet for you doesn’t mean anything. You are demanding proof for bans in a private Discord server like you are some kind of authority. You are NOT. 9. I defended EC before. Yeah, and now you attack EC because your feelings got hurt. Your defense changes depending on whether you anre inside the Discord or outside it. That tells everyone everything they need to know about your credibility. TLDR: You didn’t list EC as untrusted because of safety, complaints, detections, or anything factual. You did it because you got kicked, threw a tantrum, and needed a justification. Your entire post is emotional, biased, and built on outdated drama and rumors. You are full of shit, and everyone can see it.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load Your staff DDoSd someone’s blood sugar monitoring website in the hopes of killing the device and a human. 💀