Safe tradeing tips // rules

sikke got owned lol!!

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Originally Posted by RullerOfDarkness sikke got owned lol!!

cough fresh account, cough.

omg its danger again on his other acc dude wasup dident see ya sinc u swtiched from evoker on fosterslad and then back on dangerboy :D man i like how fast u can switch accs its faster then superman switches into clark kent. :))

Only a no lifer/nerd compares RL stuff to comic series -,-. So guess that makes you one :) also suits you :D. And owned? hahahhahaa dude I just didn't read it yet. And nice Itrader btw all from friends/other accounts right :)?

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Originally Posted by kodlak omg its danger again on his other acc dude wasup dident see ya sinc u swtiched from evoker on fosterslad and then back on dangerboy :D man i like how fast u can switch accs its faster then superman switches into clark kent. :))

I'm dangerboy? kay, then how did you deal with me back ago and scammed me?
For my ENGLISH patch and then making a thread on elitepvpers about it? your vpn doesn't even work you lil scammer. Before you start acusing people you should look up to yourself broski. by the way, this is Gaia here, a old KTS account seller. ask whoever the fuck you want, and like I said NOONE WANTS YOU IN ELITEPVPERS. Only your fanbois

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Originally Posted by iGoQQ I'm dangerboy? kay, then how did you deal with me back ago and scammed me? For my ENGLISH patch and then making a thread on elitepvpers about it? your vpn doesn't even work you lil scammer. Before you start acusing people you should look up to yourself broski. by the way, this is Gaia here, a old KTS account seller. ask whoever the fuck you want, and like I said NOONE WANTS YOU IN ELITEPVPERS. Only your fanbois

first of all its not your english patch its a english patch made few years ago,second of all its not my vpn its widevpn witch is used by moust of the kts players the company is in the usa im from croatia ???.third i never scammed someone on this forum all i did was helping people witch my itrade is showing, and forth and last yes you are dangerboy,you are a scammer and what ever you say i dont care and im not intrested if you or your friend sikke talk shit about me,i know i will play fair here coz i dont care about rappelz more then my reputation.ps as you probably saw i have a wd and toons of other rare pets i have no reason to scamme anything and i was never hideing my indentity everbody here knows who i am ingame.with all my stuff i even quited to play fenrir and started on kts witch is more fun.what will happen now is im gona get on the elitepvpers TS report you and sikke and all your others accs and yeah melisa 2 and,then you can enjoy your ban.this retarted pots that i am yazzminator or 0mar this is all bullshit to try to make me look bad if i was makeing fake itrades and shit i would be banned already.so that much for that.but i dont care if some pack of scammers try's to make me look bad.you people showen the world what you are all about.when you return the 2 angels to jochua that you scammed or admit scammig dany's r7 bs and dont know what all.then we can talk.now with all posts that you made flaming on this forum and talking shit you can expect your ban very soon.hf retards :)


notice. Truth hurt's dosent it????

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Originally Posted by kodlak first of all its not your english patch its a english patch made few years ago,second of all its not my vpn its widevpn witch is used by moust of the kts players the company is in the usa im from croatia ???.third i never scammed someone on this forum all i did was helping people witch my itrade is showing, and forth and last yes you are dangerboy,you are a scammer and what ever you say i dont care and im not intrested if you or your friend sikke talk shit about me,i know i will play fair here coz i dont care about rappelz more then my reputation.ps as you probably saw i have a wd and toons of other rare pets i have no reason to scamme anything and i was never hideing my indentity everbody here knows who i am ingame.with all my stuff i even quited to play fenrir and started on kts witch is more fun.what will happen now is im gona get on the elitepvpers TS report you and sikke and all your others accs and yeah melisa 2 and,then you can enjoy your ban.this retarted pots that i am yazzminator or 0mar this is all bullshit to try to make me look bad if i was makeing fake itrades and shit i would be banned already.so that much for that.but i dont care if some pack of scammers try's to make me look bad.you people showen the world what you are all about.when you return the 2 angels to jochua that you scammed or admit scammig dany's r7 bs and dont know what all.then we can talk.now with all posts that you made flaming on this forum and talking shit you can expect your ban very soon.hf retards :) notice. Truth hurt's dosent it????

Alright, so your going to report me, when acusing people without proofs? ur funny bro.
And you gave me a IP that worked for 3 hours for the english patch. so I'd call that scam yeah.
Expect me not to stop flaming you. HAVE FUN RETARD.

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Originally Posted by iGoQQ Alright, so your going to report me, when acusing people without proofs? ur funny bro. And you gave me a IP that worked for 3 hours for the english patch. so I'd call that scam yeah. Expect me not to stop flaming you. HAVE FUN RETARD.

what ip are you talking about i never gave you anyting as far as i remamber i dont give away any ip's i just explain people how to get ip's payed ones as for the english patch i uploadet it on rapid share normaly and the link died at some time now i uploadet it with my premium acc on rapidshare and posted the link so it will not get any erorrs.ps the proff is found very fast its called ip trace.and flaming proffs are here well first a topic that you made in the tradeing section while it dosent have anything to do with tradeing.and second its flaming in my thread and any other where i post.for your info thats bannable.next time you start problems make sure its not with someone who is on this forum for over a year.peace "bro"

kodlak so what if he makes problems with you? what you gonna do? ban him? damn what a treath, no lifer -,-

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Originally Posted by sikkepit3 kodlak so what if he makes problems with you? what you gonna do? ban him? damn what a treath, no lifer -,-

no your right i shoud beat him with a virtual crowbar ... (irony)

you ppl and ur fights arent normal ... some came here to buy / sale and u just attack each others... lae... get all to his work if u have somethnig to do and ppl will choose who is scammed and who isnt.,...

u are like kids -_-"

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Originally Posted by krkanmrkan you ppl and ur fights arent normal ... some came here to buy / sale and u just attack each others... lae... get all to his work if u have somethnig to do and ppl will choose who is scammed and who isnt.,... u are like kids -_-"

Exactally, this forum is to buy/sell stuff. NOT TO GO AROUND SAYIN WOW HIGH PRICES, WOW FRESH ACCOUNT, WOW UR A NOOB. thats what kodlak does.
since I've made a thread about kodlak I've gotten about 10 people that agree with me and want to make it a secret cause they're afraid they're accs will get banned or something.
he also comes here saying I'm dangerboy and I'm a scammer then tries to get me banned for acusing him
retards

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Originally Posted by iGoQQ Exactally, this forum is to buy/sell stuff. NOT TO GO AROUND SAYIN WOW HIGH PRICES, WOW FRESH ACCOUNT, WOW UR A NOOB. thats what kodlak does. since I've made a thread about kodlak I've gotten about 10 people that agree with me and want to make it a secret cause they're afraid they're accs will get banned or something. he also comes here saying I'm dangerboy and I'm a scammer then tries to get me banned for acusing him retards

to be honest its 10 accs but only 3 people.and im not the one who is flaming and makeing flaming topics in tradeing sections its your own foult that u gona get banned.every action has konsekvences.and why do i thing you are dangerboy few minutes after he posted someting against me u posted it (we never talked before about anything) second you have only 2 itrades 1 off them is given you by him witch no offence gives me the idea that ur not a honest person coz he is a scammer thats proven its not that i say it just like that i know who he scammed and for what and i know who he was ingame on fenrir and even in what guild he was.so if you dont wona be puted in 1 section with that person start picking your friends better.coz that person scammed 2 friends of mine and im not gona let him get away with that i will call him scammer everything he posts anything on any acc he makes and uses.if you and sikke wona be on hes site fine with me but then you guys are not much diffrent then he is.

* i dont care for u ppl as long as u leave me a side... i dnt have nothnig wit this and i dont wana have nothnig... you pick ur wars.. u finish them... i camed in here to buy .. not even to sell and someone putted me with u ppl :( cmon ... if u two cant figure out way , than dont get other ppl involved in this all . tnx once more.*

he other posts seem to be pure flaming or "sucking up," I'm not even going to comment on them.
But looking from a buyer's perspective, here is what I have to say for these tips:

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Originally Posted by kodlak 1) Check the persons itrade,pubilc profile and post's to get a better picture of the person you are dealing with.

Check itrade comments, some of those negative points are real BOGUS. One example is the one I found for blooper1234, which really should be removed or even MOVED to the person who abused the system with an invalid "negative" feedback. As for posts, not really sure that it matters that much. You can be a posting hoard all you want, as long as I don't see people accusing you of scamming left and right, or don't see you spam BLACKMARKET (specifically, you can do whatever else you like in other portions of the forum as long as it abides to the rules) threads either impersonating authority or with off-topic comments, you're an okay person to me.

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Originally Posted by kodlak 2) try to get the person to make a voice chat/ video chat conversation with you. witch is more personal ( msn//xfire//skype ect.)

HELL NO! Why do I have to disclose my voice or face to you when I don't have to do that to major retailers across the globe? That's completely unnecessary. This isn't a dating site.

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Originally Posted by kodlak 3) be carefull that the he dosent overprice it to much.usualy it means he wants you to be uncarefull blindet by the big amout off money. and always ask for screens of the acc or iteam your intrested.

People will underprice and overprice things left and right. It's up to the seller and the buyer to do some window-shopping and some homework and finally come up to an agreement on pricing. Since items here are intangible, the bigger the price, the more buyers think twice about the purchase anyway.

As for screens of the account, that can be easily concocted, but a picture TO THE INTERESTED BUYER (not the whole forum) is preferable. As far as items go, the easiest way to see it would be by logging onto the game and setting up a trade window.

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Originally Posted by kodlak 4) after you made up a deal find a middleman to help you with that. 5) the middleman rules:

I'll make this shorter: just make sure the middleman involved is an official middleman and IM him or her about the transaction asking for a confirmation before proceeding.

For more details on Middleman safety, just check the following threads on the "Middleman" section of the "Blackmarket.":

Sticky - Middleman Übersicht / Middleman summary
Obilee

Sticky - Thread Don't hire a middleman if he can't show you his phone verification
Lowfyr

Sticky Thread Middleman Rules / Requirements
John Dread

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Originally Posted by kodlak Paypal make sure that the payment is sent as a gift that way the person cant charge back the money.

I'm sorry, but as a buyer I also want have SOME guarantee. Why should the seller have all the protection? What do you think the ratio is between hacked paypal accounts buying game items and buyers scammed of items that are "blackmarketed" (meaning that they risk being voided of those items and the account that would hold them by even buying such)? The later is without a doubt much more frequent and likely to occur. While I understand a seller "not wanting to go first," I shall always make my purchases as what they are for "goods," I'm not gifting anyone my money other than a family member.

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Originally Posted by kodlak Wester Union personaly i would not recomend anybody to pay with wu they charge to much money for the transfer.and there can be charge back's

Agreed. Unsafe for the buyer as well, and their charges are enormous. Also, they do recommend to not send money to anyone you don't absolutely trust.

Finally, I would like to thank the last two sellers I made transactions with. Blooper1234 has been wonderful, I've made a purchase with him twice (one on the forum and a different one with MSN). He was understanding of the preference to make a paypal purchase as a good instead of a gift. NotASpy007 was also a very friendly and headache-free seller to deal with. I paid first on all 3 purchases.

FINALLY, I agree with the poster that pointed out frequent fights on PURCHASE/SALE threads. On a BLACKMARKET forum with a thread stating WTB/WTS, the last thing either seller or buyer wants to see is a spam of off-topic, trolling wars.

And no, this shouldn't be sticked. There's enough stickies about safe-trading and middleman.