[Discussion] - Anti Cheat used by Arc Raiders

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Originally Posted by m4a_X No, you have a 30-day ban because the AI banned you for a review. This has nothing to do with a second chance. And if it was a false ban, you will be free again in 30 days. I assume that the AI evaluates your gameplay. AnyBrain is not bad at recognizing gameplay. Compared to normal players, cheaters behave conspicuously. It may not be noticeable to anyone else, but the AI will see it. And depending on how strict the AI settings are, you will be banned. AI anti-cheats are the future and will become a problem.

AI anti-cheat systems indeed can become something that needs to be taken seriously going forward. However, they will mainly impact detection of combat behavior and aimbots, not ESP features like tracking and finding players or looting.

In this case, a 30-day suspension is not related to the AI though but it simply can occur for anyone getting caught for whatever reason, even without using an aimbot. Many players using detected tools have been banned, receiving the same 30-day penalty.

It seems they are giving this type of temporary punishment for any cheating-related behavior since the game is new. They are currently not triggering HWID bans, so if they wanted to go harder, they clearly could.

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Originally Posted by MilkyWayCheats AI anti-cheat systems indeed can become something that needs to be taken seriously going forward. However, they will mainly impact detection of combat behavior and aimbots, not ESP features like tracking and finding players or looting. In this case, a 30-day suspension is not related to the AI though but it simply can occur for anyone getting caught for whatever reason, even without using an aimbot. Many players using detected tools have been banned, receiving the same 30-day penalty. It seems they are giving this type of temporary punishment for any cheating-related behavior since the game is new. They are currently not triggering HWID bans, so if they wanted to go harder, they clearly could.

You think in the future can AI anti-cheats can be handled by improving cheats every year and also integrating AI?

do you have any news ?

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Originally Posted by m4a_X No, you have a 30-day ban because the AI banned you for a review. This has nothing to do with a second chance. And if it was a false ban, you will be free again in 30 days. I assume that the AI evaluates your gameplay. AnyBrain is not bad at recognizing gameplay. Compared to normal players, cheaters behave conspicuously. It may not be noticeable to anyone else, but the AI will see it. And depending on how strict the AI settings are, you will be banned. AI anti-cheats are the future and will become a problem.

Cheating/Hacking in games will be obsolete in the future, that’s for sure.

Right now you’re only safe with DMA in modern games with modern and best anti cheat but with AI getting exponentially better and better, hacking will not be possible in games.

It’s an arms war and hackers will lose in the end.

The way I see it AI bots playing the game for you will be future “hacking”

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Originally Posted by eliteplague Cheating/Hacking in games will be obsolete in the future, that’s for sure. Right now you’re only safe with DMA in modern games with modern and best anti cheat but with AI getting exponentially better and better, hacking will not be possible in games. It’s an arms war and hackers will lose in the end. The way I see it AI bots playing the game for you will be future “hacking”

You are wrong in many ways brother ;)

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Originally Posted by eliteplague Cheating/Hacking in games will be obsolete in the future, that’s for sure. Right now you’re only safe with DMA in modern games with modern and best anti cheat but with AI getting exponentially better and better, hacking will not be possible in games. It’s an arms war and hackers will lose in the end. The way I see it AI bots playing the game for you will be future “hacking”

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, so don't spout some shit like you know anything at all about game hacking and reverse engineering cheats.

Wannabe genius.

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Originally Posted by eliteplague Cheating/Hacking in games will be obsolete in the future, that’s for sure. Right now you’re only safe with DMA in modern games with modern and best anti cheat but with AI getting exponentially better and better, hacking will not be possible in games. It’s an arms war and hackers will lose in the end. The way I see it AI bots playing the game for you will be future “hacking”

Anti-cheats may be getting good, but cheat providers can get better too lol

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Originally Posted by Liuxas You think in the future can AI anti-cheats can be handled by improving cheats every year and also integrating AI?

Sorry I missed this earlier, but here’s my take now.

I don’t think Anybrain’s AI aimbot detection is the real deciding factor here. It can definitely catch the obvious stuff and, with enough data, even some of the more subtle cases, but cheat developers can always add their own layers of randomness to the aimbot. That back-and-forth will never fully disappear.

A more realistic long-term concern (not necessarily for this specific game, but in general) is that the classic cat-and-mouse cycle might eventually hit a point where maintaining a traditional 1-PC public memory cheat just isn’t practical anymore. It all comes down to resources. At the end of the day, no provider has a magic wand, and if a multi-million dollar company wants to target you, it's very likely they'll win the arms race, especially as we go further and further into this cat-and-mouse game.

That doesn’t mean cheating disappears, but it may shift into different forms. Whether it turns into AI-based aimbots/visual helpers that don’t read or write game memory, hardware-level approaches (not that these are bulletproof either), or something else entirely, I think we’ll eventually see the end of the typical public 1-PC memory cheat era in big AAA titles where studios and anti-cheat teams can go all-in.

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There's no AI anticheat in Arc Raiders yet, all 30day bans were received either for detected cheats or exploits

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Originally Posted by pavelsadding There's no AI anticheat in Arc Raiders yet, all 30day bans were received either for detected cheats or exploits

They might have something but not that advanced.

Is there away to check when EAC gets updated ? If they did an update on a sly .
I remember someone saying there are way to check

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Originally Posted by Agrezion The finals is doing hwid bans so its likely that they are doing it again

Says who?

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Originally Posted by xiloh its not even just for review lol it seems more like a forgiving second chance while the game is still in its early stages before they start perma banning or hwid banning...either that or maybe they're being more lenient with the bans in this game. dunno. hard to say but i contacted support and they stated that the ban is only temporary and will be lifted in 30 days aka how long my account is suspended for.

Checking in, its been roughly 30 days have you been unbanned? Or did u get perma banned?

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Originally Posted by UselessChud Checking in, its been roughly 30 days have you been unbanned? Or did u get perma banned?

He will be unbanned for sure. The game doesnt give perma ban right now :handsdown: