Proposal for the Future of Rappelz Private Server Community

11/10/2023 19:20 Masumichan#16
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Originally Posted by yosiemelo View Post
Honestly? Ghost is right here. I may not agree with a few points in this post, but overall, this could be a change for the better. People without principles do what they do, and we've all been witnessing what's been happening in this community for years. Unfortunately, not everyone is intelligent enough, as you can see, to understand it. This game is dying not because Galalab doesn't care about you; it's dying because YOU can't take care of what once brought us all together.

Regarding Age of Rappelz, not gonna lie, but in my opinion, you're acting like a wise guy, but you don't really mean anything in this community. Well, harsh words, but seriously. Just as in this community, in real life, a firm hand is needed because we're going downhill with your "freedom." This community is dying, and I'm wholeheartedly in favor of reviving it.

SO, IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, step aside. I'm willing to join a newly emerging team. I offer all my knowledge, experience, and what I've created so far. So, if some don't want to adhere to these principles, let's create a team without them and compete on the principles of a free market. I'm in, in my opinion.

In unity, there is strength. Creating a new client on a different engine is not impossible (I did some research). So, really, if someone is willing to dedicate some time (and pride), let's create a new and better community. Let's win this battle.
But bro rewrote a server and no one else did? x)
11/10/2023 19:21 yosiemelo#17
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Originally Posted by Masumichan View Post
But bro rewrote a server and no one else did? x)
and what means that for community ?
11/10/2023 19:22 Masumichan#18
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Originally Posted by yosiemelo View Post
and what means that for community ?
I don't think this question is worthy of an answer, as this is self explanatory
11/10/2023 19:23 yosiemelo#19
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Originally Posted by Masumichan View Post
I don't think this question is worthy of an answer, as this is self explanatory
exackly
Dont be mad lyza, i know its your bff, also your friends are my friends but i just saying my opinion. no offence
11/10/2023 19:24 Masumichan#20
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Originally Posted by yosiemelo View Post
exackly
Dont be mad lyza, i know its your bff, also your friends are my friends but i just saying my opinion. no offence
I'm not mad, What I'm trying to point out is imagine a code base that isn't reliant on gala's mistakes? and not written in 2004 c++
11/10/2023 19:26 yosiemelo#21
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Originally Posted by Masumichan View Post
I'm not mad, What I'm trying to point out is imagine a code base that isn't reliant on gala's mistakes? and not written in 2004 c++
maybe take a look on xiyezu RZEmulator, its wrote in modern cpp. and he wrote it from scratch ? so
11/10/2023 19:27 Masumichan#22
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Originally Posted by yosiemelo View Post
maybe take a look on xiyezu RZEmulator, its wrote in modern cpp. and he wrote it from scratch ? so
Send me a compiled version that can accept a connection then I'll believe that it works
11/10/2023 19:28 yosiemelo#23
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Originally Posted by Masumichan View Post
Send me a compiled version that can accept a connection then I'll believe that it works
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check also my discord, on EN chat is screen from ingame :)
11/10/2023 19:30 Ghost Informatics#24
In the end, the choice is yours.

Note: I would like to express my gratitude to the forum administration team for their amazing help and contributions. This thread will be monitored at the end of the poll, and any false votes will be removed by the forum administration. So, please don't waste your time creating fake accounts to vote.

By the way, one of our team members does not approve, and they voted against this suggestion. I RESPECT THAT.

Now, people, please excuse me as I have other commitments. The Rappelz private server community is in your hands, and I trust it is in capable hands. All the efforts we've put in since 2008 won't go in vain... hopefully.

Good luck!
11/10/2023 20:05 mrdjemli#25
اوافق وبشدة +1
11/10/2023 20:56 chihabanti#26
Sir,
You forgot the main purpose of games, which is entertainment and getting to know people you don't know and whose cultures you are not familiar with.

What's the point of gathering the French in one place and the Arabs in another, the same faces, just to watch each other?

Also, everyone is fleeing from official servers due to regulations. Are you saying that you're here to impose more rules even on private servers that are supposed to be an escape from regulations?
11/10/2023 22:28 ThunderNikk#27
Private server development should be an act of freedom and if it cant be and needs to be governed by rules such as this then it should not continue.

Ridiculous to tell someone who puts forth an effort that they cant have a specific server because there is already a server for that language.

That stuff is straight suppression of what may be good talent.

I am sorry but I will not be the moderator supporting that suppression.
11/10/2023 23:09 InkDevil#28
I kinda get the point in uniting the community to keep it alive.
Even the idea to keep a straight ruleset for the few (public) server is understandable.
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(Now the big BUT)
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On the other hand, separating different languages from each other will also split the community again if they want to continue playing on their preferred language, as well as some communities might be too low populated to even stay alive then.

Also a hilarious big problem is the different thinking of the way a server might be developed in future in a team itself due to different personalities (since we're a community, not a corporation).
This would even split probably all the serverteams over time, since there will always be different expectations leading to unhappiness when there's no option to develope their ideas, and therefore dropping their work on "their" server because it's not what they want it to be like.
Result would be a sooner or earlier dying amount of devs, which in result again would get even more work on polarized servers for the non-quitting devs - probably even too much to keep it up.
Players would have to accept it in a "eat or die" way, which is actually (in my opinion) an awful way to keep a community alive.

<excluded from objective point of view>
I deeply respect what you and your team have accomplished ( @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] ) and continue to do.
Plus, I can't deny that I wouldn't have proceeded working with Rappelz that far without sourcecode - which would ironically lead now to my server's death since I do a lot of stuff others wouldn't accept.
</excluded from objective point of view>
However, in this matter, considering the perspective (especially when it comes to pushing for server closures when they disagree),and even if I'd love to finally see a better original sourcecode, I cannot give my approval...

If I got something wrong, feel free to correct it.
11/10/2023 23:10 Filipe2008#29
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Originally Posted by Ghost Informatics View Post
[B][*] If this suggestion didn't approve, we promise you to work with the developer to make sure there won't be any Rappelz private server for epic 10 (doesn't matter if you work on the source, we have a solution to STOP YOU).
You want control, power and authority thats all! This thread should be closed just by this treat imo!
"Lets unify guys, or else, i will stop you!" lol Communism much!? lol
11/10/2023 23:31 Ghost Informatics#30
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Originally Posted by InkDevil View Post
I kinda get the point in uniting the community to keep it alive.
Even the idea to keep a straight ruleset for the few (public) server is understandable.
...
(Now the big BUT)
...
On the other hand, separating different languages from each other will also split the community again if they want to continue playing on their preferred language, as well as some communities might be too low populated to even stay alive then.

Also a hilarious big problem is the different thinking of the way a server might be developed in future in a team itself due to different personalities (since we're a community, not a corporation).
This would even split probably all the serverteams over time, since there will always be different expectations leading to unhappiness when there's no option to develope their ideas, and therefore dropping their work on "their" server because it's not what they want it to be like.
Result would be a sooner or earlier dying amount of devs, which in result again would get even more work on polarized servers - probably even too much to keep it up.
Players would have to accept it in a "eat or die" way, which is actually an awful way to keep a community alive.

<excluded from objective point of view>
I deeply respect what you and your team have accomplished ( @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] ) and continue to do.
Plus, I can't deny that I wouldn't have proceeded working with Rappelz that far without sourcecode - which would ironically lead now to my server's death since I do a lot of stuff others wouldn't accept.
</excluded from objective point of view>
However, in this matter, considering the perspective (especially when it comes to pushing for server closures when they disagree),and even if I'd love to finally see a better original sourcecode, I cannot give my approval...

If I got something wrong, feel free to correct it.
Respect!

Thank you. I appreciate your ideas and the way you express them.

It would be great to see more people sharing their thoughts publicly, like we did between 2010 and 2018. Unfortunately, since the source was released, the community has fragmented into smaller, more private groups. This division is largely due to the misuse of the source code.

I welcome civilized and respectful opinions here.

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Originally Posted by ThunderNikk View Post
Private server development should be an act of freedom and if it cant be and needs to be governed by rules such as this then it should not continue.

Ridiculous to tell someone who puts forth an effort that they cant have a specific server because there is already a server for that language.

That stuff is straight suppression of what may be good talent.

I am sorry but I will not be the moderator supporting that suppression.
Thank you for voting and giving your opinion, every opinion is important as long as it follows the forum rules.