Proposal for the Future of Rappelz Private Server Community

Can Rappelz private servers community survive?

Probably not. At this rate, we highly believe Rappelz won't continue for a long time anymore. The developer's policy in developing the game and the updates they have been releasing over time is a mistake.

A few months ago, our team did an extensive study about Rappelz's future, especially the private servers, and concluded that the end of this game is getting closer, all because of the private servers.

The developer decided to ignore the private servers as they follow the community and they're happy with a huge debugging community (as they think of this community).

Players on every server are decreasing day after another. Some servers started to use bots (stating they have the most active player base); others started to ruin and/or spamming other servers.

Basically, the private server community is filled with hatred. Our efforts to develop this game further are in vain as we're not standing together and supporting each other, which has resulted in a huge gap between the private servers for this game.

Our solution is simple, and we stand by this solution, and we will support it if the community decides to bring this game back to life again.

This community needs a leader to unite the voices and the development efforts so we can surpass the Korean developer's faulty policies, which only goal is to gain as much profit as possible before stopping supporting the game and closing it eventually. It's not a secret, and you can notice that by looking at the developer's efforts in developing mobile games to replace the PC game (including Rappelz) and other projects not related to games at all.

It might sound silly to have a leader, I agree. I'm not here to be a leader for anyone, and of course, we won't pick a person to be the leader, but we should redefine the community rules, and we should consider these rules as the starting point for every activity related to Rappelz.

Our team's suggestion is as follows:

1. The moderator of this forum should be responsible for the rules that will be written below, and the moderator will make sure to apply and commit these rules.
2. The rules should contain specific bullet points about publishing each private server in the community (forum).
3. Each server should be voted or chosen by the forum moderator for a specific region (language?). For example, Gambit Private server for English, Space for Russian, Shiva for French, etc.
4. The names above are just examples, and we're not picking any server ourselves.
5. Each server should support only one language, officially. For example, if I'm Arabic and I want to play Shiva in Arabic, I will create my own client and play, as long as it's not published publicly; then the server developers and team are not responsible.
6. Discord server for each chosen server shall be monitored to guarantee the team of that server doesn't break the rules.
7. If the server chosen and verified, then this is the only server allowed to be published in the community for players to play in.
8. No server outside the range of allowed servers should be posted on the community AT ALL, and the posts should be nullified always.
9. As a gesture, our server (Revolution Official) will be delisted, and we won't continue our activities, and we will provide all support for the chosen servers.
10. If this suggestion is applied and approved, we will provide all the approved servers with the latest files/sources (9.8) absolutely latest patch of this week.
11. If the suggestion is approved by many and some decided to ignore this voting, then we are ready to take those server/teams out, and we will make sure they will never return.
12. If this suggestion didn't approve, no files/sources will be ever released anymore, and we will stop our support for this community.
13. If this suggestion didn't approve, we promise you to work with the developer to make sure there won't be any Rappelz private server for epic 10 (doesn't matter if you work on the source, we have a solution to STOP YOU).
14. If this suggestion is approved, we will apply the same rules exactly on the Arabic Rappelz community.

This suggestion came as a gesture from our team, to either support the private server community or to kill it and support the official server. The current state of private servers is a mess.

Many server owners saved up money, tried to make a successful server (and I'm personally surprised at how some new servers are great, with even amazing developers). These teams are dying every month, going broke just because a few servers out there are not taking this fairly (we could play it in a sneaky way and get rid of all these servers, but we're not living in 2011 anymore).

We're not taking any further steps. Even if this suggestion is approved, you guys have to find a way to work together to make this work, as this is your last chance.

I very much agree with many points you're saying, however I don't agree with the way you're bringing it.

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Originally Posted by Masumichan I very much agree with many points you're saying, however I don't agree with the way you're bringing it.

I'm being straightforward. It might hurt the feelings of some people, but it is what it is.

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What we're saying basically if anyone didn't understand.

1 Server for English only.
1 Server for Arabic only.
1 Server for French only.

and so on.

Sorry, but why do these servers need you? They themselves are able to do their advertising this forum is like an advertising platform for private servers and I can't understand where the creator of his own server needs YOU?

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Originally Posted by Ghost Informatics I'm being straightforward. It might hurt the feelings of some people, but it is what it is. Edit: What we're saying basically if anyone didn't understand. 1 Server for English only. 1 Server for Arabic only. 1 Server for French only. and so on.

There is being straightforward and being egotistical, This is my opinion on it.
I don't think there should be anyone telling people what to do private servers are people hobbying around I don't think you have any right to enforce this, Nor do I think that you can.

If you don't like me, then please don't let that affect your vote.

I have no agenda behind this poll; I'm here with absolutely good intentions.

:)

Ghost being Ghost, has nothing to do but leave empty shells hoping people fall for them. Supressing the community and threaten to stop them by your 'hacking skills'? Right. im still waiting for that day to come.

Anyway, on another note:
- A private server is that, private from official, different and unique, nobody should be layed off as a result of dictatorship (happening here).

- A private server should be ran the way the owner wants to. idgaf who you are, where you are from, you pay your server, you run it your way.

"Official is dying", yes; official is dying, and it will continue to do so until the determined set closing-date. which is known all among gala, it can be moved to keep on trying but in the end a game that lasted more than 5 years without proper support on the engine means that it will end never the less.

Developers should maintain their positions, and continue with what they're doing. if u want to have a joint team, u can search that in a different thread called ''searching team members'', but asking people to join and to standby your rules and otherwise they're shutdown? that's not the way to go about this.

You may feel like you have alot of influence, but over time, people will surpass your ideals in this, you're not a influence, you're just a member.

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Originally Posted by Masumichan I very much agree with many points you're saying, however I don't agree with the way you're bringing it.

Agree, The day will inevitably come when support for the game will end. This is the state of the game and companies want to make more and more profits, and this is what the tourist market offers them. The reason is that mobile phone has become accessible to all people all the time, they can attract a larger audience through mobile phone, and today's devices are powerful enough to develop games.

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Originally Posted by .Ageofrappelz Ghost being Ghost, has nothing to do but leave empty shells hoping people fall for them. Supressing the community and threaten to stop them by your 'hacking skills'? Right. im still waiting for that day to come. Anyway, on another note: - A private server is that, private from official, different and unique, nobody should be layed off as a result of dictatorship (happening here). - A private server should be ran the way the owner wants to. idgaf who you are, where you are from, you pay your server, you run it your way. "Official is dying", yes; official is dying, and it will continue to do so until the determined set closing-date. which is known all among gala, it can be moved to keep on trying but in the end a game that lasted more than 5 years without proper support on the engine means that it will end never the less. Developers should maintain their positions, and continue with what they're doing. if u want to have a joint team, u can search that in a different thread called ''searching team members'', but asking people to join and to standby your rules and otherwise they're shutdown? that's not the way to go about this. You may feel like you have alot of influence, but over time, people will surpass your ideals in this, you're not a influence, you're just a member.

:)

Usually, I don't publish posts like this, but for the sake of a friend who helped this community for years before he passed away few days ago, and whose hopes were high for this game, he wished to see this community united.

I'm simply trying to fulfill his wish by "attempting" to do so.

This will be my last post in this community; you have my word. (I made this decision before posting, so don't be misled.)

In the end, stop misleading people and stop pretending.

I'm quite certain that people won't choose your server to be there; that's the only reason why you're attempting to mislead people again here.

hi, I'm creating a server, you're right, ghost, that's why I'm doing it, I want to bring the game to the level it once was, multilingual and try to rebuild a community that has been lost over the years, my knowledge isn't extensive but I'm updating myself server I'm bringing up and a 9.5+9.8 server I promise you it will make a difference and I will try to bring all the nations together XD

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Originally Posted by Ghost Informatics :) Usually, I don't publish posts like this, but for the sake of a friend who helped this community for years before he passed away few days ago, and whose hopes were high for this game, he wished to see this community united. I'm simply trying to fulfill his wish by "attempting" to do so. This will be my last post in this community; you have my word. (I made this decision before posting, so don't be misled.) In the end, stop misleading people and stop pretending. I'm quite certain that people won't choose your server to be there; that's the only reason why you're attempting to mislead people again here.

hi, I'm creating a server, you're right, ghost, that's why I'm doing it, I want to bring the game to the level it once was, multilingual and try to rebuild a community that has been lost over the years, my knowledge isn't extensive but I'm updating myself server I'm bringing up and a 9.5+9.8 server I promise you it will make a difference and I will try to bring all the nations together XD

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Originally Posted by Ghost Informatics :) Usually, I don't publish posts like this, but for the sake of a friend who helped this community for years before he passed away few days ago, and whose hopes were high for this game, he wished to see this community united. I'm simply trying to fulfill his wish by "attempting" to do so. This will be my last post in this community; you have my word. (I made this decision before posting, so don't be misled.) In the end, stop misleading people and stop pretending. I'm quite certain that people won't choose your server to be there; that's the only reason why you're attempting to mislead people again here.

You've been playing too much league of legends i see.

back on topic:
Having a wish granted for a friend is nice, but this has been multiple times in the past, it won't change with you. it needs to change within the people.

we dont need another openRZ that fails, or another NCarbon that quits, or another 'team' that promises progression but than keeps it disclosed.

If you truely believe that a team should be formed, than it should be done by heart and by trust, not by calling out rules and making them your dog (sorry i use this word at the moment).

furthermore; the people who do matter to the community are the ones who are usually isolated, dont want to share or be mutual or are always in doubt of each other. if only one person would be forgiving enough to surpass the ideals of 'doubts' and letting go of the idea one could backstab another, than this community would've been different.

ill tell you straight up what you're asking here, is nice towards your friend, but too much for this community at this stage. you realize the more rappelz nears its end, the more people will have a drive to upkeep what they got going on. and for many, this game has been more than a game. it has been a journey of life to get from one achievement to another.

sharing is great, if the community can surpass ideals and morals they have embedded in themselfs. i too have my part on things that i could share, but i choose wisely to not to, because i know that if you give this community a small finger, they take more than your hand, and before you know it, you take the fall for something you've never done.

with that said, if u want to have this happening (as your ideals) you should help the people who are struggling with the servers as current, you say you monitored them, and know the points of improvements, well; change starts with a single person, and in time, that can also change the people around.

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Originally Posted by .Ageofrappelz You've been playing too much league of legends i see. back on topic: Having a wish granted for a friend is nice, but this has been multiple times in the past, it won't change with you. it needs to change within the people. we dont need another openRZ that fails, or another NCarbon that quits, or another 'team' that promises progression but than keeps it disclosed. If you truely believe that a team should be formed, than it should be done by heart and by trust, not by calling out rules and making them your dog (sorry i use this word at the moment). furthermore; the people who do matter to the community are the ones who are usually isolated, dont want to share or be mutual or are always in doubt of each other. if only one person would be forgiving enough to surpass the ideals of 'doubts' and letting go of the idea one could backstab another, than this community would've been different. ill tell you straight up what you're asking here, is nice towards your friend, but too much for this community at this stage. you realize the more rappelz nears its end, the more people will have a drive to upkeep what they got going on. and for many, this game has been more than a game. it has been a journey of life to get from one achievement to another. sharing is great, if the community can surpass ideals and morals they have embedded in themselfs. i too have my part on things that i could share, but i choose wisely to not to, because i know that if you give this community a small finger, they take more than your hand, and before you know it, you take the fall for something you've never done. with that said, if u want to have this happening (as your ideals) you should help the people who are struggling with the servers as current, you say you monitored them, and know the points of improvements, well; change starts with a single person, and in time, that can also change the people around.

Sharing is caring, and rules are what makes us different than animals.

These rules are not of my making; they are general rules that should be chosen, and I have no say in them, nor would I

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Originally Posted by .Ageofrappelz You've been playing too much league of legends i see. back on topic: Having a wish granted for a friend is nice, but this has been multiple times in the past, it won't change with you. it needs to change within the people. we dont need another openRZ that fails, or another NCarbon that quits, or another 'team' that promises progression but than keeps it disclosed. If you truely believe that a team should be formed, than it should be done by heart and by trust, not by calling out rules and making them your dog (sorry i use this word at the moment). furthermore; the people who do matter to the community are the ones who are usually isolated, dont want to share or be mutual or are always in doubt of each other. if only one person would be forgiving enough to surpass the ideals of 'doubts' and letting go of the idea one could backstab another, than this community would've been different. ill tell you straight up what you're asking here, is nice towards your friend, but too much for this community at this stage. you realize the more rappelz nears its end, the more people will have a drive to upkeep what they got going on. and for many, this game has been more than a game. it has been a journey of life to get from one achievement to another. sharing is great, if the community can surpass ideals and morals they have embedded in themselfs. i too have my part on things that i could share, but i choose wisely to not to, because i know that if you give this community a small finger, they take more than your hand, and before you know it, you take the fall for something you've never done. with that said, if u want to have this happening (as your ideals) you should help the people who are struggling with the servers as current, you say you monitored them, and know the points of improvements, well; change starts with a single person, and in time, that can also change the people around.

You forgot to say that he should do it for free and not use non-public data for profit, because other developers of private servers do not have them :D:D:D

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Originally Posted by Ghost Informatics If the suggestion is approved by many and some decided to ignore this voting, then we are ready to take those server/teams out, and we will make sure they will never return. If this suggestion didn't approve, no files/sources will be ever released anymore, and we will stop our support for this community. If this suggestion didn't approve, we promise you to work with the developer to make sure there won't be any Rappelz private server for epic 10 (doesn't matter if you work on the source, we have a solution to STOP YOU). This suggestion came as a gesture from our team

Lmao. Gesture my ass. Who are you to impose such "suggestions" ��

Let people do their thing. What little is left will continue with or without you just fine.

Honestly? Ghost is right here. I may not agree with a few points in this post, but overall, this could be a change for the better. People without principles do what they do, and we've all been witnessing what's been happening in this community for years. Unfortunately, not everyone is intelligent enough, as you can see, to understand it. This game is dying not because Galalab doesn't care about you; it's dying because YOU can't take care of what once brought us all together.

Regarding Age of Rappelz, not gonna lie, but in my opinion, you're acting like a wise guy, but you don't really mean anything in this community. Well, harsh words, but seriously. Just as in this community, in real life, a firm hand is needed because we're going downhill with your "freedom." This community is dying, and I'm wholeheartedly in favor of reviving it.

SO, IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, step aside. I'm willing to join a newly emerging team. I offer all my knowledge, experience, and what I've created so far. So, if some don't want to adhere to these principles, let's create a team without them and compete on the principles of a free market. I'm in, in my opinion.

In unity, there is strength. Creating a new client on a different engine is not impossible (I did some research). So, really, if someone is willing to dedicate some time (and pride), let's create a new and better community. Let's win this battle.