JohnHeatz - The new CO2 Mod?

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Originally Posted by JohnHeatz Thanks for the support, as with everything I do, I will do my best to work side by side with Lateralus and everyone else to keep the section organized and clean, of course. Thanks for that as well, I am just starting when it comes to CO2 development, so I just need to get to know the mere basics of it, so that I can, then, start learning more about it, might take time, but while I'm here I'm sure that there are many experienced developers which I might ask some things about, so will definitely take you into account for that.

Well let me help you get up to speed with all the development side of things.

The Bot/Proxy side of things:

Currently I believe there are three main proxys currently on the market.

1. ConquerAI (COFarmer 2nd Generation, Main programmer is Hybrid/InfamousNoone)
2. COGenius (Main programmer is Dean)
3. Chrome (Main programmer is Steve? Not a clue.)

Of course they are all at rival with each other, But CoAI does something cooperate with Chrome if there is a certain feature that needs to be added(or, broken should I say)

COGenius is much hated by CoAI, It's like, Trying to put a graphics card in your mobile, It just won't work. (For all you technical smart-ass's, I don't care if its not impossible as I'm sure there's some way you can think of where it would be possible)

They are all running at the retail version of conquer last time I checked.

Private server development side of things:

Currently every single server out there is running Impulse's source, and NewestCOServer or a TQ Bin.

Let me explain what these are and there history, Get a cup of coffee this will take some time( :'( ).

Alright, Let's start this in logical order.

TQ Bin's, Known as Warez where I believe there is only two forums where you can get a copy of these files (4B and some gay Egypt forum zerovb)

They are at versions 5065 and 5095, Bot's are very popular on these, and running one of these means the server owners have to do literally nothing, It mostly runs of a huge database in MySQL, where some people literally code events all in tables. (Fucking stupid right?)

Enough about them, the server owners are always douches, You can find some brilliant exploit crashers and hacks by Ultimation in the Hack section.

• NewestCOServer

(Coded by Tanel, was actually leaked onto this forum without consent, The first public 5165 server source)

This is by any standard for a good coder to be horrible, most people say "socket system shit, it so bad nooob omgwtfbbq" when really, That's not the issue, It's the shire lack of efficient methods for doing things, It's laggy, The programming style is disgusting for anyone.

However most sources released at 5165 are using that, It stores data in bin files, and is slugish.

• Impulse's source:

This was originally released at a amazing 5165 base for new programmers(It's what really got me going) It had very few features, No mobs, guilds or anything like that, but did have items, moving, the essentials.

Releases starting rolling out for the source, and it really did have the potential to take over the NewestCOServer server's.

However as Conquer moves on to later patches, So did Impulse, He owns a server Trinity-CO, Which originally was coded from the base he released, anyhow, As Impulse's developed the source for later patches, I believe he started selling previous versions of it(Most notably 5375) and of course they got leaked, So everyone was like? "OMGWTFBBQ IT HAS MONSTERS! SOUL ITEMS! FUCK LEARNING C#! FFFFUUUUCK DAAAT SHIT BRO".

Again, Impulse's version running on Trinity-co I believe, is a well coded source but have no seen it.

As people started modifying the leaked sources just cramming features in as bad as they can (Like ramming a super king cigarette into a 12G Baci pouch, It'll just about fit, but not well at all) and these are the versions people started using because they had the most features, and they're terrible. Shit. Disgusting.

Currently the best option for a starter source is:

Later patch: CSV3
Earlier patch: Conquer server_basic

Both coded by InfamousNoone/Sparkie.

CSV3(You can read about it) Is the latest patch, or was close to since the development has stopped for it when it became open-source for the 2nd time, Contained the much awaited Password Bypass for server.

Which was necessary for private servers to work with conquer(Authentication) as at patch 5530 Conquer online upgraded there Password Encryption and it is only crack-able by the few that dare, but few have managed(InfamousNoone/Hybrid some others).

So how are servers at latest patches if all sources servers are running on are shit and noone can crack shit? Because the few servers that could, ported his bypass over, but still, a shit server.

Last but not least? People who have changed the CO2 Development history and whom we would not be here without:

• Hybrid/InfamousNoone
• Sparkie
• Ultimation
• Haydz?
• Saint?
• Korvacs?

I probably missed a few, Possibly got one or two wrong, but those are the people that come to mind at 1am.

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Will do this very quickly, Have a headache.

The most memorable and imo best servers Conquer has ever seen:

1. Qonquer (Coded in Java, No idea who the coder is, I forget)
2. HybridCO(Earlier version PVP, Coded by InfamousNoone)
3. AcidCO V1/V2 & V3 (This was and IS the best PVP server Conquer has seen, V1 & V2 ran off a source InfamousNoone and Ultimation coded, V3 was coded completely by Ultimation)
4. CoEMU (Coded by MagicMan, one of the very first conquer servers, but not the first, there is often confuson)

Anyhow, Congratulations you managed to read the whole thing!

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Originally Posted by _DreadNought_ some gay Egypt forum zerovb

Although i am not from egypt, also i liked your post i have reported this because this is an insult, of course you don't want someone to say that about you and\or your country

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Originally Posted by Danial Eugen Although i am not from egypt, also i liked your post i have reported this because this is an insult, of course you don't want someone to say that about you and\or your country

Awwww, Someone get him a cookie because I said something bad about another forum from another forum :(

Also I never said Egypt was gay, I was the forum was gay, but threw the word Egypt in the to be cool like the other kids :(

And there is my CO2_CORE_DLL project which is like a big resource for ciphers, file format, etc. It is used for the lastest packages extractor in the design section and by Kyono for his DBC converter. In fact, there is two majors bugs: DMap are bugged, but fully defined..., TPD/TPI uses the DEFLATE algorithm in the wrong way, so it won't work.

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Originally Posted by JohnHeatz About the rule that has been mentioned, well, it is correct that no staff member on this board can be involved on any sort of private server project, and that is actually being enforced by our administrators, given the fact that when this rule was placed, we all had to take the decision between working on any private server or stay as staff member, I -personally- chose to keep my position in here and quit being staff on a server I was (on Shaiya though).

Just nitpicking here but why did you have to quit being staff on a private server while Lat can continue doing it?

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Originally Posted by _DreadNought_ CoEMU (Coded by MagicMan, one of the very first conquer servers, but not the first, there is often confuson)

I'm pretty sure he wasn't one of the first either, that was simply something he claimed together with claiming that he had a server up and running in 2003 (year CO released). He also claimed to have cracked the password encryption before anyone else. I think he also claimed that the CoEMU project stole his name or something while there were rumors that MagicMan himself used parts of the CoEMU source for his work.

They probably just arnt aware of his involvement.

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Originally Posted by _DreadNought_ Awwww, Someone get him a cookie because I said something bad about another forum from another forum :( Also I never said Egypt was gay, I was the forum was gay, but threw the word Egypt in the to be cool like the other kids :(

Accept my apologizes if i misunderstood you xD

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Originally Posted by Kiyono Just nitpicking here but why did you have to quit being staff on a private server while Lat can continue doing it?

Well, that is an answer I don't have, might be what Korvacs stated

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Originally Posted by Korvacs They probably just arnt aware of his involvement.

Or there could've been some sort of arrangement between our administrators and him, that would be something to ask Lateralus, as we all had to take the decision between being part of pserver projects or keep our position in here...

Well it's time to say congratulations and I'm off again for a few days/a week.

JohnHeatz is probably the most active moderator, honestly he deserves what he has right now :) Elitepvpers is lucky to have him!

He knows things! xD It's not un commen for a mod to be added to a section that needs a mod, even if they don't actively post in that section before hand.

To clear up some of the questions raised in this thread:
MagicMan blew ass at programming and his server was a complete rip off.
Going back to Dreadnought's list of people, I would argue yes Korvacs should be on that list as well as Andy D., Ranny, and UCCO team. Korvacs was one of the few contributors from way back in the day who lit the flame for open-source development which later became the CoEMU project. Given at this time we were all amateur programmers (in fact, I wasn't a programmer at all back then!) we've all come a very long way.

I don't think Saint has had any major contributions to the community, but he is a fine coder. The same applies to Haydz who can be attributed to some what assisting me in several aspects of my work, as well as minor things while reverse engineering but nothing considerably substantial. <3 you Haydz!

Also, I don't really 'hate' COGenius, but Dean out right has something against me and disapproves of my "troll like nature".