Lets talk, about SV and cracking

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Originally Posted by raptordin Quote: Originally Posted by evanxxxm Underground section is quite good all people answer with respectful manners and productive answers besides, all programs that developed in there, mostly will come out public eventually just that its not open source like underground of course the bad ones or incomplete ones never show their face in here because its a failure so i am not with u] I can understand and totally rely to that although I don't approve but it is by no way my call. I totally disagree with that. I know for a fact that you have it dude. Still any way maybe it was discontinued, who am I to argue.

There's no cracked SV or any kind of guide for it in the underground..
It's really mainly coder talk without all the spam and we get some stuff before other people do.
Can't really say what we do have there (there are some rules to the section) but ya.. there's nothing SV related.

In my opinion, cracking SV should be disallowed because they distribute the bot for a cost. This community is for contributers to contribute there hacks free of charge but are limited to areas of the community. SV is obviously a well know and as such a mega bot compared to allot of others. The owner of SV decided to make it a charged program so to use it pay. This site is not about cracking programs.

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Originally Posted by leavemealone In my opinion, cracking SV should be disallowed because they distribute the bot for a cost. This community is for contributers to contribute there hacks free of charge but are limited to areas of the community. SV is obviously a well know and as such a mega bot compared to allot of others. The owner of SV decided to make it a charged program so to use it pay. This site is not about cracking programs.

I don't think it's quite that simple though to be honest.. SV is still just a bot, it's not an actual stand-alone program, it can only be used to manipulate Conquer.
If by cracking the bot you screw up the bot maker's income the same could be said for using any kind of bot, tool or exploit for Conquer since it could cut down on DB sales.
If we can mess with Conquer, why not be free to mess with SV aswell?
I personally don't care if SV gets cracked since I don't / won't use it anyway but it's a bit weird to consider one program "untouchable".

CO, i dont play much already. so i will use another comparison:

using windows to create hack programs
vs.
using cracking version of windows applications

personally i dont mind because i do both, like adobe pro8.1, photoshopCS...etc
but if i am the creator, i will be piss

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Originally Posted by evanxxxm CO, i dont play much already. so i will use another comparison: using windows to create hack programs vs. using cracking version of windows applications personally i dont mind because i do both, like adobe pro8.1, photoshopCS...etc but if i am the creator, i will be piss

I'm gonna crack ELSE so I can use it for free :p:cool:

The underground's purpose was to allow the devs a central place to chat and trade ideas and such. Anything posted there is generally incomplete and is being tested or shared for purposes of helping each other with their own work. While you guys may feel left out, trust me, most of the info there will not help you. You want hacks and there really aren't any hacks in it. For the most part it's code or information regarding projects we're all working on that are either already public or will possibly be public. Nothing that really could benefit the general public. Plus, it's nice to get a break from the constant post spamming some people do.

Well I suppose I can accept that explanation for no longer releasing cracking SV< although it does not make much sense seeing as direct cracks were allowed for years, and crack DIY's were allowed for over a year - in fact the un-updated linklist still has links to old DIY cracks. It makes no difference to me, I subscribe to SV. Its well worth the $4.99/month, but there are those out there for one reason or another, simply can't afford to pay for it. Those are generally the people that would use the cracks, so the damage to the SV creators would generally be minimal. Furthermore, the cracks often don't function in the same manner as the legit versions - you often have dura bugs to worry about for example. So anyone who can afford to pay for SV most definitely will, because its worth $5/month to have it fully working as compared to having it free with buggy dura detection and running multiple game engine scripts all the time.

Like I said, it doesn't affect me. I'm just standing up for poor 14 year old Tommy who doesn't have a job, ya know? :P

And would be nice to see that SV subscription information post I made get pinned.

Sorry but not everyone HAS to use SV. I can understand your view of "having" to be allowed to post DIY guides or a cracked SV if you HAD to use it, but you don't. It's a privilege to be able to use it and it's just something that is not wanted on here. Though I'm not entirely sure, I believe one of the issues with it was that it was hindering the production of more user-created bots and hacks. While SV may be the "ultimate bot", it was an "imported" bot and no one here had anything to do with it.

Also, there are MANY people who make it every day without using SV. I had never used it at all when I played. I think the fact that there is a risk to lose your items at all whether it be due to "unpaid version" or whatnot is enough to make me not use it. Just that the functions to do such damage are there... not a bot I'd put my trust into or even pay for.

I agree with bone, you do not need this bot. I have made myself a 130 rb archer and 127 rb trojan without bot lvlers etc. and ive also got allot of other chars but they were made with my archer once it hit 130.

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Originally Posted by bone-you Sorry but not everyone HAS to use SV. I can understand your view of "having" to be allowed to post DIY guides or a cracked SV if you HAD to use it, but you don't. It's a privilege to be able to use it and it's just something that is not wanted on here. Though I'm not entirely sure, I believe one of the issues with it was that it was hindering the production of more user-created bots and hacks. While SV may be the "ultimate bot", it was an "imported" bot and no one here had anything to do with it. Also, there are MANY people who make it every day without using SV. I had never used it at all when I played. I think the fact that there is a risk to lose your items at all whether it be due to "unpaid version" or whatnot is enough to make me not use it. Just that the functions to do such damage are there... not a bot I'd put my trust into or even pay for.

Yeah, that I can understand. Honestly I can't see it hindering the dev. of new botting programs, at worst I can see it clogging up the bot forum, not hindering development directly.

What do you think about pinning that SV subscription topic, or in the least putting it on the linklist

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Originally Posted by MushyPeas There's no cracked SV or any kind of guide for it in the underground.. It's really mainly coder talk without all the spam and we get some stuff before other people do. Can't really say what we do have there (there are some rules to the section) but ya.. there's nothing SV related.

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Originally Posted by bone-you The underground's purpose was to allow the devs a central place to chat and trade ideas and such. Anything posted there is generally incomplete and is being tested or shared for purposes of helping each other with their own work. While you guys may feel left out, trust me, most of the info there will not help you. You want hacks and there really aren't any hacks in it. For the most part it's code or information regarding projects we're all working on that are either already public or will possibly be public. Nothing that really could benefit the general public. Plus, it's nice to get a break from the constant post spamming some people do.

Exactly. I bet it's nice to work on a project without over half the posts being from noobs asking how to use the bot or if it's clean.

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Originally Posted by evanxxxm CO, i dont play much already. so i will use another comparison: using windows to create hack programs vs. using cracking version of windows applications personally i dont mind because i do both, like adobe pro8.1, photoshopCS...etc but if i am the creator, i will be piss

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by bone-you Sorry but not everyone HAS to use SV. I can understand your view of "having" to be allowed to post DIY guides or a cracked SV if you HAD to use it, but you don't. It's a privilege to be able to use it and it's just something that is not wanted on here. Though I'm not entirely sure, I believe one of the issues with it was that it was hindering the production of more user-created bots and hacks. While SV may be the "ultimate bot", it was an "imported" bot and no one here had anything to do with it.

Yep, that's the reason I heard too.

Sorry for the bump, :rolleyes: but I've been away for awhile.

The main reason I put a stop to SV is:
This is a hacking forum for games.
Not a cracking forum for programs.

Other reasons are:
SV cracking questions spam.
SV program posting spam.
It did stifle development of game hacks here.
After it was banned there was a influx of new programs being posted.

and No, mods didn't get a free copy of SV for life. :p

Off topic, CO2 Underground is for activ programers or knowlegeable posters of CO2. Bone-you has the right explanation of it a couple of posts up.

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Originally Posted by a1blaster Sorry for the bump, :rolleyes: but I've been away for awhile. The main reason I put a stop to SV is: This is a hacking forum for games. Not a cracking forum for programs. Other reasons are: SV cracking questions spam. SV program posting spam. It did stifle development of game hacks here. After it was banned there was a influx of new programs being posted. and No, mods didn't get a free copy of SV for life. :p Off topic, CO2 Underground is for activ programers or knowlegeable posters of CO2. Bone-you has the right explanation of it a couple of posts up.

im not a Genious or bot/macro/edit/etc maker , but to do a simple program to be a taboo is a it is too much , sometime ago when sv and cracking sv was allowed im sure 100% that elitepvpers it were site mostly visited for ppl, me for example i got some friends that joined elitepvpers looking for bots and between one thread and another , they found more interesting things , speedhack , edit stuffs about other games too( not properly conquer )etc ... oh and about

" Other reasons are:
SV cracking questions spam.
SV program posting spam.
It did stifle development of game hacks here.
After it was banned there was a influx of new programs being posted."

its normal ...for this reason we got mods here or not? to help cleaning dead toppics , marging threads , helping with things BANNING ...and so on...
whats make a site to grown up are new ppl joining every day ( elipvpers is big one already ) but can be more , and between new ppl and spams about sv cracking , or any other programs ... theres always has some .... as programers joining too ... not only spammers . but if elitepvpers prohibit such things ( measuring efforts ) to make a simple program work for little Tommy or Tommys around the world ... then the only thing remaining is " to decay ppl "

AND sv is beginning of the not allowed things , what will be the next ?

PS: majority of the things writings are understandable ... but lots of other things i even dont understand hehe sorry for bad english , im learning ^^ :)

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Originally Posted by PooRNooB im not a Genious or bot/macro/edit/etc maker , but to do a simple program to be a taboo is a it is too much , sometime ago when sv and cracking sv was allowed im sure 100% that elitepvpers it were site mostly visited for ppl, me for example i got some friends that joined elitepvpers looking for bots and between one thread and another , they found more interesting things , speedhack , edit stuffs about other games too( not properly conquer )etc ... oh and about " Other reasons are: SV cracking questions spam. SV program posting spam. It did stifle development of game hacks here. After it was banned there was a influx of new programs being posted." its normal ...for this reason we got mods here or not? to help cleaning dead toppics , marging threads , helping with things BANNING ...and so on... whats make a site to grown up are new ppl joining every day ( elipvpers is big one already ) but can be more , and between new ppl and spams about sv cracking , or any other programs ... theres always has some .... as programers joining too ... not only spammers . but if elitepvpers prohibit such things ( measuring efforts ) to make a simple program work for little Tommy or Tommys around the world ... then the only thing remaining is " to decay ppl " AND sv is beginning of the not allowed things , what will be the next ? PS: majority of the things writings are understandable ... but lots of other things i even dont understand hehe sorry for bad english , im learning ^^ :)

Trust me,your neighbour who plays conquer for atleast one year knows e*pvp :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by PooRNooB im not a Genious or bot/macro/edit/etc maker , but to do a simple program to be a taboo is a it is too much , sometime ago when sv and cracking sv was allowed im sure 100% that elitepvpers it were site mostly visited for ppl, me for example i got some friends that joined elitepvpers looking for bots and between one thread and another , they found more interesting things , speedhack , edit stuffs about other games too( not properly conquer )etc ... oh and about " Other reasons are: SV cracking questions spam. SV program posting spam. It did stifle development of game hacks here. After it was banned there was a influx of new programs being posted." its normal ...for this reason we got mods here or not? to help cleaning dead toppics , marging threads , helping with things BANNING ...and so on... whats make a site to grown up are new ppl joining every day ( elipvpers is big one already ) but can be more , and between new ppl and spams about sv cracking , or any other programs ... theres always has some .... as programers joining too ... not only spammers . but if elitepvpers prohibit such things ( measuring efforts ) to make a simple program work for little Tommy or Tommys around the world ... then the only thing remaining is " to decay ppl " AND sv is beginning of the not allowed things , what will be the next ? PS: majority of the things writings are understandable ... but lots of other things i even dont understand hehe sorry for bad english , im learning ^^ :)

true.