Metin2 SG [Oldschool]

Ussualy im not making comments and lossing time on such sites about metins, but after i spent many hours, money i think its time to talk about it a bit.

hmm SG, an server rulled by an german guy who have superiority complex proved in any context by his attitudine , the game have an maximum 30-40 days in good days when there event for 1 hour like Hunter Hour or Double Dungeon Drop after those events finish most of the exit and theyr like 10 people left . Was many days when i saw maximum 2 peoples online and they tried to lied about that after i asking why theyr only 2 people sending them message on theyr discord group and i got instantly muted 30 minute and my comment got deleted.

To make myself an little description to validated my comment about server and everthing i say in this post i will say it nicely, i used to play around 16-20hours per day, earning everything from the game same as my group with i played ,everyone played near the same numbers of hours per day as me. The game its totally dead, if the staff dont like you they will fiind an way to ban you as an good example the game was rulled by an the HH guild with was full of the best players from the entire server and the richest from it. After the zodiac was added on server most of the players was not even able to make one item+7, and only one person from HH already had 9 zodiac items+9, having atleast 10 shops full of materials of up, alchemy and everything you can think overcut at price ( with pissed alot of people because they was not able to sell nothing from theyr shop because of this guys who have that many shops with soo cheap stuff ), after one guy who quited the game give him some items worth aprox 300 wons ( this guys who got the 300wons theyr account value its estimative at 50.000 wons) they just fiind the way to ban the guy saying he did RMT even if he didnt, and everyone know that because of this acctions all his guild who was keeping the game running quited aswell and today we can see 1-2 players online at BLUE and few others at yellows around 10 maxium.

Im pretty sad i wasted my times playing on a server where there are many issues like favoritism and im so sad thinking no one take action about such stuff.

The data base was Hacked and all infos was pubic and they didnt even had the courage to say it on theyr discord to let people know that and changing theyr passwords ( considering most of the people ussualy use the same mail-pass everywhere).

btw i Heard on some groups ( dont know how real it is) ElspethTirele trying to take down every bad comment about the server, i just say good luck and enjoy it how long you can for momment.

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Originally Posted by GrindrGrindr A bit ''sad'' to read what happened I mean, was one of the most valid servers, but from +- 2 years, started to be bad I saw too, when I was playing there, not so nice and objective answers by Elspeth, but even by from other people inside SG team Tbh, I'm a bit ''tired'', to see this kind if behaviour and answer They should be on their knees by saying thank you, to whoever is still playing on their server and specially towards who is still cashing $$ to them, but I guess that around Metin2 pserver enviroment, only a few people are humble, grateful and smart to handle and take ''care'' of their playerbase Well, idk what to say anymore Just don't waste your time by playing around servers handled by such big ego team members

Ye probably better to waste ur time on servers going down after a month :kappa:

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Originally Posted by Drewfire You made your point to this server and or GM's in previous posts. You have been banned from the server, meaning they don't welcome you anymore. What sense is there to complain about being banned again, after having created a new account? [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Considering she was banned multiple times and staff let her play after ( because she donate alot of money into theyr dead game? probally thats why she wanted to start playing again , i dont see an issue with her post who just prove more things about the server and dont let others people lose theyr time&money ;)

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Originally Posted by MrPresidentx3 removed content

Can understand that Elspeth is some kind of controversial person but what servers did he worked on besides SG and the servers from SG?
Just know about SG 1/2 + Zymeria?

And idk its a completely different situation when a person is talking bs with a friend then with a random person they dont know @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]
Also your critics is some times maybe a bit over the top xd

But wouldnt play SG either even if i would be huge oldschool fan i wouldnt play sg atm

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Originally Posted by KingAp34 im doubt, they accept money for those only if your german like them, if your from others countries they ask you 5x price of the skin xd you need to move to germany to have this beneffit bro xd:pimp:

Since I am the only German buying any skin yet, it seems like you mean me with this comment. Quite ironic to throw shade at me at this time, after I denied your request on Discord to like your Epvp posts a few days ago.
I will take this as a personal motivation to clarify some bullshit that is spread in the recent posts here, even though I deem it a waste of time, since people wont change their opinion about the server. Thats also fine but atleast criticize with facts and dont spread wrong things all the time while begging for likes in peoples DM's.

First of all I never talked to you about how much I payed for anything, so those statements are just pure banter and have no sense at all. I know for a fact from speaking with other people that I pay the same price as they do.

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Originally Posted by KingAp34 after one guy who quited the game give him some items worth aprox 300 wons ( this guys who got the 300wons theyr account value its estimative at 50.000 wons) they just fiind the way to ban the guy saying he did RMT even if he didnt, and everyone know that because of this acctions all his guild who was keeping the game running quited aswell and today we can see 1-2 players online at BLUE and few others at yellows around 10 maxium. The data base was Hacked and all infos was pubic and they didnt even had the courage to say it on theyr discord to let people know that and changing theyr passwords ( considering most of the people ussualy use the same mail-pass everywhere).

Secondly I would like to adress this.
To clarify the situation from the view of an actual player: The so called "guy" who quitted and was banned for RMT was you. I think thats a crucial information that you intentionally hold back. About the guy who bought your stuff, maybe he wouldn't be banned when you wouldn't flex how much money you did with quitting SG. You try to say they searched a way to ban him, but why would they do this when it's obvious the Server doesn't benefit but get damaged by this decision? I know you cant give me a logical answer but the 2-3 legit people who liked your post might at least think about it.

About the data leak: that's a legit point, if anyone deem it as a no-go, I respect that. For me personally it's just tiring to hear it over and over again from ex- and banned players who played the server while knowing about this just to now have atleast one single legit argument to hate on the server.

Please forgive me for cutting the parts of your messages that I personally deem unnecessary.


Now I would like to say some things about xXtremeLady's messages.

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Originally Posted by xXtremeLady Hello again, I can now freely write here since I have nothing to lose and already got permanent banned (which I am very glad for).

Your comment already starts in a weird manipulative way. Two weeks before your ban you make videos and try to advertise the server and now when you are banned you imply you would have expressed your dissatisfactions already if you weren't afraid to loose anything. Well break it to you but anyone who understands german feel free to go trough my Epvp messages about SG in my profile. You will see I had harsh discussions with the staff before and wonders why, I never got banned or even treated negatively after writing these.

Since I dont want to make a wall of quotes I try to answer your accusations from my point of view in a more general way.
You accuse Elspeth of lying while providing dozens of screens, but I still dont see a single lie in those. You even post a screen of him telling you to provide a lie he said and ironically you post this instead of actual lies? Thats quite funny to me.

Regarding the favoritism part: No one can deny that Staff members have personal symphaty to some players and yes I agree Elspeth obviously likes Pizza. At the end we are all human and aslong as the rules apply to everyone it is fine, and I for myself dont see any problem here. I know for a fact you have a weird obsession with Pizza trying to confront her on every occassion since years. So much that several times GM's had to intervene.
The ingame screenshot you provided is like 5years old and I don't see any problem with it.
The screenshot from pizza pinging Elspeth 6times in a span of 6months is just plainly misleading. I assume the friend you are talking about here being banned for pinging is Fendi. This guy did nothing but annoy people, spam, ping and being offensive when confrontend with his behaviour. And I can assure that this guy didnt only ping 6times in 6months.

Also I dont understand why you guys act like Elspeth is the owner of the server and decides everything. You know this isnt the case, but since Epvp seems to hate him I guess its easy to take this ride.

All in all I can just say that 90% of the things you guys say here are plainly wrong and I hope atleast some people understand now that this is the talk of people who simply were banned. Everyone in this scene should know how serious you can take these comments.

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Originally Posted by .xAmnezia' (...)"Middleschool"? Du startest hier schlimmer als auf nem Oldschool Server von 2010. Kein Warpring, kein Umhang, kein Pferd, rein garnichts. Das einzige was du zum Start bekommst, sind paar laprige Windschuhe, damit du statt rum zu krabbeln, rum schleichen kannst. Der Server erfüllt einfach nicht die heutigen Standards. Genau genommen nichtmal die Standards von vor 5 Jahren. (...) Anfängerfreundlichkeit ist hier eher im Minusbereich. Loggst dich ein, und musst dir erstmal kleine Tränke zum selbst potten erfarmen. Aiiiaiiiaiiii. Paar Dinge gibts anscheinend dann aus der Lehrlingstruhe, aber sowie das aussieht, wird der Client bereits gelöscht, bis man diese überhaupt öffnet.

Tut mir Leid an alle die immernoch mitlesen, aber das kann ich nicht unkommentiert lassen, weil das echt die Absurdität auf die Spitze treibt.
Diese "paar Dinge aus der Lehrlingstruhe" enthalten zufälligerweise alle Dinge die du dir im selben Beitrag paar Zeilen weiter oben wünschst + Coupons für 15Tage ItemShop-Kostüme, Mount, Pet, usw.
Das grenzt schon echt an Wahnsinn sowas zu schreiben, wenn man bedenkt, dass man die Truhe auf level2 erhält, was equivalent zu 30 Sekunden Spielzeit ist.

Thanks for sharing my conversation with you, while I even asked to not do it. That gives me now the opportunity to answer to your lies, racism throwards Germans and nonsense, beside that I’ll try to clarify few points.

In the conversation which you leaked, I mention that I got it for finding a huge bug. Where did I mention that I got an discount or even bought it?

Everytime something doesn’t go how you like, you play the racism card „prob coz im not german meh“. Which you can see on the exact same screenshot. There are more sentences like that, but tbh I don’t want to spend more time on it.

Saying that Tary is a better Gm is absolutely false, she also had her favorites and was treating everyone different. Beside that, you were complain about her aswell, saying that she hates you etc.

everything what happen to your ingame accounts, is just a result of your behavior and lack of respect. Not because your not a German, so pls stop finally mention everytime Germans as, if they are the reason of your mistakes. And no, I don’t say that bcs I’m a straight white privileged cis men, it’s just absurd to blame everyone else.

But Just bcs I disagree with you in many points (and I’m actually disappointed about you), doesn’t mean that i don’t agree with you about some points. And no I’m not waiting like you scared cittens till I’m banned.

Elspeth has a rly difficult personality, he wants to be always right and answers very rude/aggressively, if you ask him something, he claim’s that you want special treatment. He can be sometimes cool but tbh that doesn’t look like professional behavior to me.

The favoritism about pizza is absolut accurate, giving players more spaces bcs you like them makes it again unprofessional. But guess what she is not German ��.

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Originally Posted by KeinePlanunG Thanks for sharing my conversation with you, while I even asked to not do it. That gives me now the opportunity to answer to your lies, racism throwards Germans and nonsense, beside that I’ll try to clarify few points. In the conversation which you leaked, I mention that I got it for finding a huge bug. Where did I mention that I got an discount or even bought it? Everytime something doesn’t go how you like, you play the racism card „prob coz im not german meh“. Which you can see on the exact same screenshot. There are more sentences like that, but tbh I don’t want to spend more time on it. Saying that Tary is a better Gm is absolutely false, she also had her favorites and was treating everyone different. Beside that, you were complain about her aswell, saying that she hates you etc. everything what happen to your ingame accounts, is just a result of your behavior and lack of respect. Not because your not a German, so pls stop finally mention everytime Germans as, if they are the reason of your mistakes. And no, I don’t say that bcs I’m a straight white privileged cis men, it’s just absurd to blame everyone else. But Just bcs I disagree with you in many points (and I’m actually disappointed about you), doesn’t mean that i don’t agree with you about some points. And no I’m not waiting like you scared cittens till I’m banned. Elspeth has a rly difficult personality, he wants to be always right and answers very rude/aggressively, if you ask him something, he claim’s that you want special treatment. He can be sometimes cool but tbh that doesn’t look like professional behavior to me. The favoritism about pizza is absolut accurate, giving players more spaces bcs you like them makes it again unprofessional. But guess what she is not German ��.

Firstly I did not want to post the conversation but it was important in this case, you have to understand, don't think it will affect you in any way they are not going to ban you. Im not racist, if i was i would not move to a 100% german guild with willi & others. Its clear to know who are the ones being racist.

Also you should not even comment about my behaviour, because none of my posts state that i even care about the ban and i also had accepted the ban reasons, so was no need for you to try and put me down. Regarding Tary don't think any one ever said she favoured anybody. Im not blaming 'germans' dont worry, you are just mad I disclosed your post in public. And yes let me speak about myself, I break billion of rules, I made other break rules, i am so disrespectful, my behaviour is so terrible, but you know what i can state those in public because i don't give a damn^^ i am what i am i dont hide at least. I also have over 17 bans and 2 permanent ban :) but im still alive don't worry because i dont have a career in metin 2 singapore

And again, you just dodging to answer the question. Once again where did I mention that I bought it or that I got a discount?

Im actually allowed to talk about ur behavior, after you decided to leak my conversation with you, for no reason, it doesn’t even prove your point in anyways.

Beside you talking/commenting the staff‘s behavior, but it’s not allowed to talk about your? Kinda double stands don’t you think so?

lets stick up for the most corrupt server that has ever been made as if you do not do what the dictatorial staff do you get banned as many players have just because they disaggreed with the so called idiotic GM who have no idea
as for the prices of there so called "special items" anyone with a little bit of search on the net would actually find them for free as they just manipulate people in thinking other wise
so the only thing that matters to say is the are corrupt everyday dictators when challenge they ban people them run away and hide like anyone who sticks up for them

Oldfart (Granpa123) has spoken morons

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Originally Posted by OldFart lets stick up for the most corrupt server that has ever been made as if you do not do what the dictatorial staff do you get banned as many players have just because they disaggreed with the so called idiotic GM who have no idea as for the prices of there so called "special items" anyone with a little bit of search on the net would actually find them for free as they just manipulate people in thinking other wise so the only thing that matters to say is the are corrupt everyday dictators when challenge they ban people them run away and hide like anyone who sticks up for them Oldfart (Granpa123) has spoken morons

I have had my fair share of heavy discussions with Elspeth, Shadow and even tary and my Account from 2014 was never banned

i have also had discussions with Elspeth and shadow in the past to without any problems but if you read my last post i am talking about what is going on NOW!!!!!!!!!!
as i personally have been using the server since it started in many different roles and characters without any problems
but now as i have stated before they are a corrupt place that if you dont do what the dictatorial demands you get banned by idiotic GM that have no idea how anything works and if you try to challenge there so called superior status instead of doing the correct thing and ask what is the problem they ban you without any way to find out why!!!!!!!!!
so the server is run by dictators who want a server in there image and anyone who disagrees in banned so prove me wrong as i bet you cant!!!!!!!!!

Oldfart

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Originally Posted by KingAp34 because will be an day where server will be offline for long time considering theyr defence its weak from what i tested;)

Surely youre able to do that KingApe.
Your english lacks of any right grammar use but surely youre hackerman187 xdd

Funny how 2 toxic people spamming the whole thread is a thing now.
Youre providing nothing to your accusations besides big wall of texts and screenshots which doenst prove any single point of your points youre trying to make.

Im not playing SG so pls dont call me to go play SG.
You both are simply just mad because you got banned from the game you loved and now trying to convince other people to not play SG anymore with childish behaviour



And providing better prices and better support or whatever to people which actually help improving your updates is kind of nice instead of paying them idk nothing or like 20 cent of coins any week they playing beta. xd
Idk how you can be so butthurt about a ban and being threated normally i would guess even when youre toxic as shit towards most of the teammembers?

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Originally Posted by OldFart lets stick up for the most corrupt server that has ever been made as if you do not do what the dictatorial staff do you get banned as many players have just because they disaggreed with the so called idiotic GM who have no idea as for the prices of there so called "special items" anyone with a little bit of search on the net would actually find them for free as they just manipulate people in thinking other wise so the only thing that matters to say is the are corrupt everyday dictators when challenge they ban people them run away and hide like anyone who sticks up for them Oldfart (Granpa123) has spoken morons

Theyre not manipulating people to buy their expensive and exclusive stuff theyre explaining how they calculated their prices for selling exclusive costumes 1x to certain players instead of putting them into the itemshop for all players?

I don't like to censor you, but there are limits to what you can say. I have deleted a bunch of posts. Please remember our rules and be nice to each other.

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Originally Posted by Metin2 PServer Advertising Rules Treat other members with respect. Damaging someone's reputation is strictly forbidden if the respective post lacks clear evidence. Keep private things private. Meaningless, destructive posts are considered spam.

I like how much drama is going on here.
I have played sg multiple months and never had any problems.

Seems more like some guys tilting because they dont get what they want :lul:

I have also chatted with Elspeth multiple times. Always seemed like a nice guy to me.

look we all have conversations with Elspeth Shadow etc many time about things like yourself without incident
But you have to ask yourself why ban people for just asking a question about a problem or a over zealous GM instead of asking what the problem is and to sort it out
it has nothing to do with what you suggest as any good player knows that you play the game for what it is
so i would suggest you need to find out why before saying things you only think you know about
as like i have said before it is the so called GM that are there now with there Dictatorship attitude and people who run it and let it continue

Oldfart