[Unofficial] List of Legit / Scam Apex Cheat Providers

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Originally Posted by Xenos This and also LC is a rage cheat. Its the same thing with EO. Legit but often detected because of what it is. As long as it isnt advertised as super long term secure cheat, it should be fine in my opinion.

Then put a warning next to it, something that tells people it is rage or high risk?

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Originally Posted by Antebellum Can you list WinKings.cc on the list? [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] Full: [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] Lite: [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

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Originally Posted by Xenos ~~~

Can vouch for WinKings.cc. Deserves to be on the list. Only competition is LC probably, but LC can't stay UD so they're def the best out rn.

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Originally Posted by Rabbit™ Can vouch for WinKings.cc. Deserves to be on the list. Only competition is LC probably, but LC can't stay UD so they're def the best out rn.

You've also vouched for Stealthmode, an external cheat that was detected twice despite other providers was maintaining their safety for long-term.

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Originally Posted by forfeitsol You've also vouched for Stealthmode, an external cheat that was detected twice despite other providers was maintaining their safety for long-term.

yes stealhmode is detected everytime they patch and say we are UD for 150 days 😂😂

Elocarry still not added here? Still UD after the EAC update :)

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Originally Posted by forfeitsol You've also vouched for Stealthmode, an external cheat that was detected twice despite other providers was maintaining their safety for long-term.

I vouch for legit providers. Just as I have for many others that you have also vouched for & recommended in your past posts. I've never had any issues with Stealth or WinKings and they both deserve to be on the list. If a completely public provider with thousands of users can go 6 months before being hit, I find that a legit provider. Especially with them coming back within a day and compensating all time back to users. Not many will actually do that.

As someone who owns a provider, shouldn't you know the difference between an external and internal? Lol. Few already told you they're fully internal, yet you've been too daft to understand.

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I've never had any issues with Stealth or WinKings and they both deserve to be on the list

It's because you didn't bought Stealthmode as it promoted "league based cheats", "a cheat that streamers using" etc. So getting ban is not important for you.

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If a completely public provider with thousands of users can go 6 months before being hit

Forfeit has around 1.2k active customers within total 12k. Forfeit didn't promote anything such as Kernaim, Clutch-Solutions. So we can assume that KA and Clutch have much more customers than Forfeit. Yet, still better detection history compared to yours.

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Especially with them coming back within a day

False claim. Stealthmode got offline for 3 months in total.

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compensating all time back to users. Not many will actually do that.

False claim. Everyone does that actually.

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Few already told you they're fully internal

No, they are not. Yes, a customer claimed Stealthmode is internal, but using viewangle doesn't mean the cheat is internal.

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with thousands of users

You're forgetting the fact that Forfeit and Stealth has common resellers. I know that your sales are not going well for months. I know that people are still coming to Forfeit after using Stealthmode. You guys are blaming the customers when they create ticket after getting ban. Such an legitimate provider!

I'm not even talking about how the way you defend stealthmode makes us think you're an alternate account.

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Originally Posted by Ladalle yes stealhmode is detected everytime they patch and say we are UD for 150 days ����

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Apparently Crypto/Kami has been detected, can anyone confirm this, please? For such a major provider the detection status should be updated IMO.

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Originally Posted by GrawPoint Apparently Crypto/Kami has been detected, can anyone confirm this, please? For such a major provider the detection status should be updated IMO.

I heard it on PO's chat that it got hit. I haven't talked to GamerDoc in a while so I can't confirm.

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Originally Posted by Muellmann1111 LastCheat got ban waved 2 hours ago. They was up now for 3 days and got ban waved haha.

on 25 august, there 3-5 people reported bans
on 27 august, other 5-6 people reported bans (banwave?)
1000 + users, 5 people reported bans = banwave? auto collected stats show 3% ban rate?

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Originally Posted by elena_dov im thinking that xenos get paid from those providers. lc is dt/ka is dt/stealthmode is dt?????????????????????????? trueye down??????? vortex dt??? what???? will you ever going to be update thread!!! @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] the only legit in the list is ecycler lmao add clutch r185 forfeit megacheats to list lol

r185 is just a reseller product, had alot of issue w compatibility + multiple sellers have been going around 1 key sold to 4-5 people...

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Originally Posted by GrawPoint Ah the dates make sense, I believe there was a banwave around that time that even many reputable providers got hit, wouldn't be surprising if LC got hit as well, after all they get detected very often. When I tried them it was September 20 and a week before that I tried their Lite version, the accounts were safe even though I used rage features like pSilent and semi-raged ingame.

Nah, we didn't got hit on 24 September but we saw a spike in ban rate from 3% -> 9% on late august early September - so it affected the 5-7%.
We were hit on 18 May during dev 2weeks business trip while rewriting bypass
The dev was back on 26 May and worked the new bypass - I am wondering why some people reporting bans like 03 June when the cheese isn't up?

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Originally Posted by Xenos This and also LC is a rage cheat. Its the same thing with EO. Legit but often detected because of what it is. As long as it isnt advertised as super long term secure cheat, it should be fine in my opinion.

We wouldn't deny it , being pinned and have a lot of users, being one of the few EAC emulation based will lead to focus by EAC.

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Originally Posted by sp3sh Then put a warning next to it, something that tells people it is rage or high risk?

To be fair, there's multiple masters and predators holders. Mostly on lite though

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Originally Posted by GrawPoint Apparently Crypto/Kami has been detected, can anyone confirm this, please? For such a major provider the detection status should be updated IMO.

btw yah it is, a couple of internals + externals got hit though - I am in a few communities - at least 6-8 cheese got hit these few days

But I don't know if its detection, because for those involved in bans, it seem majority were diamond above though

And one of the externals was UD for 1.8 years

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Originally Posted by GrawPoint Apparently Crypto/Kami has been detected, can anyone confirm this, please? For such a major provider the detection status should be updated IMO.

According to OnlyUD they got hit. Highly reputable place that takes no shit. Join https://******************

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Originally Posted by ECZlitz According to OnlyUD they got hit. Highly reputable place that takes no shit. Join [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Can vouch for OnlyUD, great community.

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Originally Posted by KitzuYu on 25 august, there 3-5 people reported bans on 27 august, other 5-6 people reported bans (banwave?) 1000 + users, 5 people reported bans = banwave? auto collected stats show 3% ban rate?

When I used LC it was more reports than that, what data is collected? Not aware it collects data.
I love Garmi but the product is not as undetected as you make out.

Yeah LC has been catching ban waves every few days and lying about it not being detected.

They've been hit by at-least 10 ban waves when I was in for two months. The longest they were UD was for ~10 days max.