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Originally Posted by ChronosEO
Most of our detections were caused by our Spoofer. While this is no excuse, after removing our Spoofer we didn't get detected a single time and we hope to keep it this way.
The Fortnite times are long gone - everyone involved with it has left the team and moved on.
EngineOwning has always been focused on CoD and Battlefield.
We were one of the first to release a cheat for MW2019, together with x22, AA and SystemCheats. At that time there weren't really any public resources around. A Cold War Cheat was planned and was supposed to be done by a new Coder, eventually that Coder changed his mind because of some Legal Issues with Activision which is the reason why we don't have a Cold War Cheat - the Anti-Cheat is almost exactly the same in both games.
Also, we provided invite only cheats for different games such as Apex Legends and Arma 3 for well over a year, just not fully public - we still have private cheats for more sophisticated anti-cheats to this day. I don't see PhantomOverlay providing any other cheats than Warzone and Cold War - although i don't doubt your skills to make other cheats, you shouldn't trashtalk us for something you do yourself. :)
If you are talking about our cheat - we run in Kernelmode.
If you are talking about the Anti-Cheat - even with a Usermode Anti-Cheat and a Kernelmode Driver, that doesn't make your cheat undetectable. As proven by x22, AA, EO and other providers, if Activision targets you specifically you can still get detected.
Publicity is always good - Activision and Raven have us on their radar regardless. But so far we have been able to avoid them for a few months.
If you dislike us so much, why associate yourself with us by buying the domain "EngineOwning.io" which leads to PhantomOverlay? :rolleyes:
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Everyone who comes to buy cheats from me is shadow banned or HWID banned from using EO... it's frustrating.
Half of my day, every day, is helping new customers setup INFINITE spoofer since they are HWID banned from using EO. It's a large annoyance, so of course I'm going to speak out and say "hey people, don't use EO, just come to a real provider first."
Wouldn't you?
I do not believe your spoofer story for a second. You're just using a cover. Also if spoofing, which requires deep AC knowledge, is hard for you to keep UD, what does that tell us? If PO was at risk of detection I would also make a spoofer but there's no need when the only spoofing demand I have is due to EO...
Also I made EngineOwning.io because it's funny. You want the URL? I'll give it to you if you can stay UD for 30 more days.
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Originally Posted by ccharles1992
Because he's a snake in the grass
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What did I ever do to you? Just because I talk badly about EO and AA doesn't mean I'm in a fight with the customers or normal users here. They are big boys they can stand up for themselves.
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Originally Posted by ilikebacon.
Because he is smart. It brings him customers.
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It doesn't actually bring me any customers it's just funny.
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Originally Posted by darix1
Unethical business practices, gotta love this.
This kind of tactics works for a while, its temporary, if you really want to make a good brand and work hard to survive for years to come, then you need to focus on your product how to make it better, not coming here trash talking about almost every other provider, no disrespect but, zebleer trash talking about almost every other provider and consider himself god that he is the only one who knows how to program, and other providers are all copy/pastes.
And Zebleer, we understand COD AC is trash, but seems you are so good at programming and coding cheats, or kernel what so ever, i am not so experienced with this stuff, i am only a user, then why not like AA, or EO, or other providers who have tons of supported games which use Annoying anticheats like EAC, or BE, if you are so good why not make cheats for apex, for BE supported games and so on? Go do it and make it hard to get detected i am sure you will become millionaire in no time.
But i like how AA completely ignoring these topics, EO and some other great providers should also ignore clarifying, your products speaks for itself, you have your own reputation for years which is great, EO, X22, AA, and some others been around for years, "The Lion does not turn around when a small dog barks".
Warzone brought many casual/new users into gaming, with this more users want to get easy ways to succeed in their games, so they come to cheat and they are beginners and dont know how cheating in game works, as a person who have been using cheats since 2009, 1st rule, if you cheat then expect getting banned anytime, there are no cheats out there can remain undetected except the ones who makes their own cheat and only use it for themselves and their mates, otherwise the moment the company focuses on your cheat, then you are doomed, you will be detected in time.
Again no disrespect to anyone here. Just giving out my opinion like everyone else on these forums.
Cheers
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To clarify the EngineOwning.io thing was just a meme. It was a joke. There is no unethical business practice. I never bought or setup SEO or any sort of actual hosting for that domain, it just 301 to my site via CF.
Sure, if I bought it and then bought Google ads or SEO or put up a website etc that's unethical but it doesn't bring me any customers, it's not meant to, it's just a meme.
To answer your question about why I don't publicly sell EAC and BE, it's because of the fact that unlike AA I don't do unethical business.
AA supports 1,000 games, many with kernel AC, and they just accept detection all of the time. They do not care. A truly ethical provider who does EAC and BE won't show that to the public and subject themself to EAC and BE targeting. This goes for any kernel anti-cheat game.
There are many sites that do this, AA is not alone, and I certainly would never. :)
It's okay if you don't like me, but I disagree with you that AA and EO are "Lions" and I am a "dog" just because I speak about them. I wouldn't speak if half my user base didn't come form AA or EO with complaints about them and in need of a spoofer to fix a HWID ban. It's incredibly annoying that half my users have suffered from them, so I come speak out.
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Originally Posted by DMUonaFFAR
You're 100% right here with the part I left quoted, especially the bold part.
Too many people lying as well, I'm not talking about ANYONE in specific which is why i removed the rest of your post in my quote, waaaay too many people/providers are I guess afraid of losing potential noob customers and are not honest about the fact that cheating comes with a ban risk NO MATTER WHAT.
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I can tell you're hinting at me and I just wanted to say that I never say my cheats are undetectable. There is always a chance, I just have a perfect record thus far and believe it will stay that way. That's all.
If you don't want to buy from me, buy from AIMEX. I do not talk badly on every other provider. AIMEX is great. GG is fine. There are many others that are great too. GhostAim, GCAIMX, the list goes on.
I only speak badly about AA and EO.
I am very tired of people saying that I talk badly about EVERY other provider when it's really only those 2. I also say x22 doesn't impress me but they are fine.
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Originally Posted by darix1
You are right, and too many new providers suddenly appeared with warzone release, its business, wz got huge player base, so comes big opportunity why not, and the big ones like i mentioned in previous post, some of them never lied about detections, for example on AA forums, there are so many posts of new comers asking for a chance of ban with their cheat, the old customers, and staff literally responding with, if you dont want to get banned then stop using cheats, simple as that, anyone says their cheat is "undetectable" then they are lying, its about the matter of time until they get on the radar, there is a huge difference between undetected and undetectable word phrase and in so many cases new users misunderstanding the phrase.
And huge websites like AA, EO, X22 and some other ones out there, always been big target of anticheats, why would activision go for a small cheat providers when they can target bigger ones with better results?
And for personal choice of mine, i am gonna stick with Aimex, EO and AA from now on. i wont spend a single penny on any other cheat anymore. and i wont be commenting here anymore, its just useless.
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Again, I can tell you're hinting at me and I just wanted to say that I never say my cheats are undetectable. There is always a chance, I just have a perfect record thus far and believe it will stay that way. That's all.
If you don't want to buy from me, buy from AIMEX. I do not talk badly on every other provider. AIMEX is great. GG is fine. There are many others that are great too. GhostAim, GCAIMX, the list goes on.
I only speak badly about AA and EO.
I am very tired of people saying that I talk badly about EVERY other provider when it's really only those 2. I also say x22 doesn't impress me but they are fine.
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Originally Posted by Cigipapir
You really gonna talk about ethics regarding a cheat provider?
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IDK What he did that you're pointing out... but I really don't think the EngineOwning.io meme was unethical. I was just having a laugh.
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Originally Posted by GoldenCheats
I dont think EO needs to argue....your Cheat is great.
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GG is better than EO because less targeted, so IDK why you are standing up for EO. Or maybe I misunderstood.