[IDEAS|DEV] Huge Wars! vSRO188 Hybrid Emulator

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Originally Posted by LastThief* Plans..Plans everywhere

go die oqe

Pls no

Nice ideas

I have no idea if this has been suggested before or if it's a good idea, but here it comes.

If you want to remove goldbotting completly, how about deleting all drops from monsters. Not uniques ofcourse. You would have to implement some other way of getting items ofcourse. Quests maybe?

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Originally Posted by bjarkeb I have no idea if this has been suggested before or if it's a good idea, but here it comes. If you want to remove goldbotting completly, how about deleting all drops from monsters. Not uniques ofcourse. You would have to implement some other way of getting items ofcourse. Quests maybe?

dungeons ;o

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Originally Posted by bjarkeb I have no idea if this has been suggested before or if it's a good idea, but here it comes. If you want to remove goldbotting completly, how about deleting all drops from monsters. Not uniques ofcourse. You would have to implement some other way of getting items ofcourse. Quests maybe?

The problem is: will people accept that or they will complain as always?

People don't want a pay2win server but if you open a server with only cosmetic stuffs available for silks (so it's real play2win and not this fake servers where you're allowed to sell silk items like premium - devils - immo's) it will be empty like it happened in the past in some servers.

People don't want goldbots so they ask for IP/HWID limit but they use proxy's and other ways to break these limits.

People want a bug free server but once they found one they abuse it instead of reporting it.

You can do all the efforts you want and you're able to but everything will be fucked up by the community. Servers like Skalidor, Elamidas and a couple of other ones were killed by us (the players) and not by the admins.

I personally like your idea but I bet not many peeps will support this.

People just want to run bot to get some good drops, buy some silks with their bucks to get some money in game, have luck in pimping some items and feel "pro".

Imo the next step for a sro server should be an end-content which actually requires skills to be achieved. Actually SRO is based on how many bucks you can spend and how many chars your pc is able to run at the same time.

(For example LoL is really successfull only thanks to its ranking system and the fact that you actually need some skills to stand out from the crowds.)

Since I saw the skills of the author of this thread and his crew (concerning both sides: developing new ideas and coding them) i think only them atm are able to make such a big change.
I know this will require to change most of the game aspects but I think it's the only way to not let this game die in the next 1-2 years.

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Originally Posted by SnowStorm1 dungeons ;o

Or just go the WingSro/Atomix route.

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Originally Posted by Exiledsun (For example LoL is really successfull only thanks to its ranking system and the fact that you actually need some skills to stand out from the crowds.)

If you're going to make a comparison, compare MMO's. Give me one MMO where buying ingame items/ cosmetics doesn't give you a (huge) advantage (^:

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FFXIV maybe ? Aion maybe ?

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Originally Posted by Eifillity If you're going to make a comparison, compare MMO's. Give me one MMO where buying ingame items/ cosmetics doesn't give you a (huge) advantage (^:

A server real Play2Win was made in the past. People forgot that donations should be done to support the server and not to get an advantage.

That server, don't know if I'm allowed to write its name, had no bot, only cosmetic stuffs available on the item mall, real balance between euro and chinese... but, guess what, it failed cause people can't play anymore without bots and also they lost the attitude to work for their items.

Yesterday I was playing in a server and I saw a guy spamming all day long that he wanted to buy good weaps/gears with silks, at the end of the day he said something like this: " Gonna try +9 on sos staff cause I don't like this system, it's really boring". Do you get the point now? This is an exception but the average is not that far.
Nowadays silkroad, which has never been a game that requires too much skills, is almost not playable anymore.

What are the difference between Official SRO's and Private servers? Maybe in the past it was worth to play PS but at this point all of them became pay2win in a way or another, perhaps implicit but still.

I and a lot of others people I know that are non donators (beside supporting with some bucks the servers which deserve it) are really pissed off since it's really hard to catch up with donators who have too many advantages. Yes I know that in the end you can get them but looking at how much those PS last nowadays is just a waste of time.
This is the average life cycle: Open--> Donators get OP--> Normal people begin to be at their level---> Donators are bored since they haven't played the game--->They leave--->Server is empty---> Closed. Repeat x100.

Silkroad needs a real and complete restyle in terms of end-content otherwise I can't see any future beside a worsening of the sitaution explained above.

This is just my personal opinion so I don't want everyone to agree with it, just sharing some thoughts.

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Originally Posted by Exiledsun This is the average life cycle: Open--> Donators get OP--> Normal people begin to be at their level---> Donators are bored since they haven't played the game--->They leave--->Server is empty---> Closed. Repeat x100. Silkroad needs a real and complete restyle in terms of end-content otherwise I can't see any future beside a worsening of the sitaution explained above. This is just my personal opinion so I don't want everyone to agree with it, just sharing some thoughts.

That can only be achieved by not linking anything related to end-gear with silks.

I can tell you what I did, I had everybody getting a crappy looking untradable avatar after reaching the level cap (still has the 4 magic options so it does the job, yet tempts people to get another) and a crappy looking pet.

I had the monthly supplies sold for non-purchasable currencies such as prem, extension gear and pet clock yet, they will still purchasable via silks. The same applies to immortal stones.

I also sold show-off items which had zero effects on the gameplay for decent prices of silks.

The end-gear was based on basically fucking the shit out of the game and even then, you might not even end up getting it which was pretty much the point.

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Originally Posted by Exiledsun A server real Play2Win was made in the past. People forgot that donations should be done to support the server and not to get an advantage. That server, don't know if I'm allowed to write its name, had no bot, only cosmetic stuffs available on the item mall, real balance between euro and chinese... but, guess what, it failed cause people can't play anymore without bots and also they lost the attitude to work for their items.

You mean Venture? Venture was one of a kind. We had some good players and barely any noobs or kids. But sadly, it died. I'm not here to cry over the spoiled milk, but let's face it: No bot = no population.

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Originally Posted by ​Bodo That can only be achieved by not linking anything related to end-gear with silks. I can tell you what I did, I had everybody getting a crappy looking untradable avatar after reaching the level cap (still has the 4 magic options so it does the job, yet tempts people to get another) and a crappy looking pet. I had the monthly supplies sold for non-purchasable currencies such as prem, extension gear and pet clock yet, they will still purchasable via silks. The same applies to immortal stones. I also sold show-off items which had zero effects on the gameplay for decent prices of silks. The end-gear was based on basically fucking the shit out of the game and even then, you might not even end up getting it which was pretty much the point.

I didn't play SRO in last year so I didn't know about your server but that's what almost the same thing which was made in the other one mentioned.

How it yurned out? The problem is related to the community. We can't blame the owners nowasays if they only try to milk some money from their servers since the community has led them to this point.

Silkroad as it is now has no chance of improvement that's why it should be reworked in some of its aspects.

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Originally Posted by magicanoo You mean Venture? Venture was one of a kind. We had some good players and barely any noobs or kids. But sadly, it died. I'm not here to cry over the spoiled milk, but let's face it: No bot = no population.

Yeah it was Venture. Had such a great time there and thanks to it I met the people with who I'm still playing with and who made me come back and play again. I must be honest: If I had no friends to play with I would have never come back.

I really hope someone will find a way to make this game playable and enjoyable once again.
No hate, no rage, just some thoughts.

Peace.

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Originally Posted by Exiledsun The problem is related to the community. We can't blame the owners nowadays if they only try to milk some money from their servers since the community has led them to this point.

No, let's be honest here. It's very rare to find an owner who actually gives a crap nowadays like Akasch, Stath, myself and some others. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the community doesn't have issues because they do and I can pretty much write a page about how impatient they can be and how they have zero loyalty and how they chase after names and join servers blindly without reading their features then quit after realizing how much they suck and what's funnier is how they keep on being fooled over and over again by these names but that doesn't mean that most of the owners around here are some kind of saints either.

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Originally Posted by Exiledsun Silkroad as it is now has no chance of improvement that's why it should be reworked in some of its aspects.

The problem is when end-gears are reached, people get bored and find nothing more to do. Two things have to be ensured.

1) People play to a point where they don't even reach end-gears.
2) As much add-ons as possible to ensure if they do, they don't get bored.

if you have good modeler , make some new animator for chars
like dance animate , "I WILL KILL YOU" animate
because the currently animate are really boring

also make some new animate for wolf , dance wolf for example etc,