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Originally Posted by JohnHeatz Actually while an application is still open, it means that you are on the "radar", because if you get rejected, or it is noticeable that you do not fit with the position your application gets simply closed, all you people sometimes fail to see is that an application can be opened for months before there is a decision about the applicant.

Does this still count for applications that have been open for years? In sections that have had new mods, including CO2.

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Yes, actually it does count for the ones that are really old, if there is a chance they stay open, if not they are simply closed

If it's not too much to ask, can my application title be changed to: "Moderator Application [Conquer Online Section]"? I'm interested in all of the sections in Conquer Online, so the current title doesn't really fit. Thanks! :)

Even if I want to help you, I will say no. We all know what you did in the past, what kind of person you were and trully, a person cannot change in just a few months, like a complete reborn of yourself, brand new person, brand new feelings etc. Your rage and hate towards some of us is still there but you hardly trying to hide and suppress it. I`m not saying you`re not a good buy, I bet you are but when it comes about having patience and acting like you should, not like how you feel errr... let`s say it`s not your best part. You`re seeking for acceptance and for you, getting the mod position is like "take that bitch, now what?". I was part of the staff on the other forum (we all know which one) and when you came in, problems appeared. I resigned because, the forum being in a constant fight does not do any well for anyone. When I resigned, along with me, other important staff members resigned. We couldn`t let die all we created until that moment. As you can see, that forum is dead after our leave so I kinda (no offense really) find you responsable for that. The moderator position, doesn`t fits you. You can do and be helpful to the community w/o being part of the staff. If you think this forum is not giving you back enough just for the fact that it exists, you don`t really need to be here after all. Considering your past behavior, even if you`ll force yourself to do the right choices, you`ll again fail because that`s not natural, you`ll be tempted to listen to random people, get confused and take the wrong turn in an event of something important. Don`t be mad at me, I`m nearly active as you are here but I don`t think you`re the right person for that job.

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Originally Posted by zero_epvp Even if I want to help you, I will say no. We all know what you did in the past, what kind of person you were and trully, a person cannot change in just a few months, like a complete reborn of yourself, brand new person, brand new feelings etc. Your rage and hate towards some of us is still there but you hardly trying to hide and suppress it. I`m not saying you`re not a good buy, I bet you are but when it comes about having patience and acting like you should, not like how you feel errr... let`s say it`s not your best part. You`re seeking for acceptance and for you, getting the mod position is like "take that bitch, now what?". I was part of the staff on the other forum (we all know which one) and when you came in, problems appeared. I resigned because, the forum being in a constant fight does not do any well for anyone. When I resigned, along with me, other important staff members resigned. We couldn`t let die all we created until that moment. As you can see, that forum is dead after our leave so I kinda (no offense really) find you responsable for that. The moderator position, doesn`t fits you. You can do and be helpful to the community w/o being part of the staff. If you think this forum is not giving you back enough just for the fact that it exists, you don`t really need to be here after all. Considering your past behavior, even if you`ll force yourself to do the right choices, you`ll again fail because that`s not natural, you`ll be tempted to listen to random people, get confused and take the wrong turn in an event of something important. Don`t be mad at me, I`m nearly active as you are here but I don`t think you`re the right person for that job.

It didn't take me a few months to change who I was. I've been recovering from a trauma that consumed half of my life here on earth. I hate nobody, not even the person who caused my trauma. Hate is a strong word and I would never use it towards a member here or of any other community. I continue to believe that my past actions don't influence this application, yet I can't help but wonder how the staff must see me.

All I know is how dedicated I am to this community. Without this community, I wouldn't be going to college right now. I wouldn't have a career path or people begging me to work for them. All I'm asking for is an opportunity to give back. It really hurts me when I see an entire section ignored, like the CO2 Weapon, Armor, Effects & Interface Edits section. It needs moderation; however, there's not a single moderator willing to even open the section. I don't want it to die. I don't want Conquer Online development to die. There are so many opportunities in it. That's why I want to be a moderator. I want to help the community see those opportunities. The administrators don't really have a choice. They could either continue to ignore this application or accept me. The section can't be balanced on one moderator and I'm the only one *willing* to lend a helping hand (*Edit: Sorry for the confusion there, I meant that I'm the only one who is willing to apply. I've been talking with everyone I could about applying but nobody feels either qualified or responsible enough to take the position).

I fit the part because I know how to be a leader. I lead my life through events that nobody I know could even imagine. I lead my family through hard times in the economy. I'm the reason why my mom has a job and why my grandma has a roof over her head. I am a leader. Previously, I was a moderator on 4botters. When I first started, I had problems. I stepped down to allow myself to recover the strength and impartiality I needed to lead a forum. The day I arrived back, I was immediately promoted to Moderator of the Conquer Online section, and I was soon promoted again to Global Moderator. I remember the fights you're mentioning, and I remember attempting to talk to every participant to stabilize the forum again. If you left the community out of loathsome feelings against me, then that's not my problem. I'm proud of my moderating position on 4botters and I was sad to leave after half a year of service. I left because this forum needs my help. I see development on this forum that I'd never see on 4botters. There are opportunities here, as I've said before, and I know how to reach them. I'm the top computer science student at my college. I set the curve and it's thanks to this forum for getting me there. It's thanks to previous moderators like Korvacs (Jack) and Pro4Never (Chris) that I found opportunities here.

I'm not mad at you. I'm not trying to direct this wall of text at you either. I hope some day you can see the true side of me that everyone else higher up has seen. People make mistakes and I'm an example. I don't suppress that fact. I'm not perfect and I'm not trying to be. I never tried changing who I was. I'm a positive, spirited person and I care about the members here. At one time, I cared too much about the opinions being made about me. It's taken me time to grow up. I know it's hard to find trust in someone you've despised for such a long time. Please though, try to find some trust in me. I'm only applying here because the staff needs a helping hand and the members need another moderator to give attention to the sections that the current and past moderators ignored.

I'm sorry that I'm not who you expected to be until now.
Thanks so much if you can understand my position.

Sincerely,
Spirited Fang

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All I'm asking for is an opportunity to give back.

You can give back as much as you want, being a mod or not.

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It really hurts me when I see an entire section ignored, like the CO2 Weapon, Armor, Effects & Interface Edits section. It needs moderation; however, there's not a single moderator willing to even open the section. I don't want it to die. I don't want Conquer Online development to die. There are so many opportunities in it. That's why I want to be a moderator. I want to help the community see those opportunities. The administrators don't really have a choice. They could either continue to ignore this application or accept me. The section can't be balanced on one moderator and I'm the only one qualified to lend a helping hand.

You formed this based on what? and to be honest there are members who deserve to be mods in that section more than you do. no need to mention names since you said its a dead section....

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I fit the part because I know how to be a leader. I lead my life through events that nobody I know could even imagine. I lead my family through hard times in the economy. I'm the reason why my mom has a job and why my grandma has a roof over her head. I am a leader. Previously, I was a moderator on 4botters. When I first started, I had problems. I stepped down to allow myself to recover the strength and impartiality I needed to lead a forum. The day I arrived back, I was immediately promoted to Moderator of the Conquer Online section, and I was soon promoted again to Global Moderator. I remember the fights you're mentioning, and I remember attempting to talk to every participant to stabilize the forum again. If you left the community out of loathsome feelings against me, then that's not my problem. I'm proud of my moderating position on 4botters and I was sad to leave after half a year of service. I left because this forum needs my help. I see development on this forum that I'd never see on 4botters. There are opportunities here, as I've said before, and I know how to reach them. I'm the top computer science student at my college.

Once again you keep talking high about your self, thats the kind of attitudes that a mod should NOT have.

As i mentioned in a previous deleted post, you think you changed, but....

I honestly don't see any reason for you to be a mod, its nothing personal but you as a mod is a bit hard to take in. You think high of your self which is a good thing, but not when you have responsibilities, specially a mod responsibilities as you need to have the ability to accept other opinions and such.

You and others may not fully understand what i mean, but English isn't my main language, its kinda hard to get others to understand my point sometimes. lol

I can sort of understand what they're talking about to an extent.

Fang, honestly nobody really cares about what happened in your life that made you the way you were. (I do, but that's because I've come to know you as a friend) What they're concerned about what is what you had done because of what happened. Unfortunately I highly doubt their opinions will ever change, but that's just ignorance showing. I believe a lot of people's opinions COULD change, especially if you keep up what you have going now, but the truth is, there are those who are just too blind to see change. Sorry buddy. :(

Ignorance? blind? only a blind ignorant would believe that someone can change this much in such a short period of time.
You do however have a valid point there which Fang seems to have a hard time understanding, no one really cares what happens with you in real life other than your friends. And peoples opinions do change, but its the personality and the attitude we are talking about here not only opinions.
Fang simply isn't efficient enough to handle a mod position, I admit he may be experienced in certain things, but not good enough in general for a mod..

Thing is, the main reason why he wants to become a mod is to help the community, and thats not a valid reason to become a mod when the section you are applying to is not facing any problems that requires a mod presence 24/7, he can help by reporting posts, the only mod we have in CO sections pays good attention to reports and is doing his job just fine, even if he never opened a certain section in the forums a report is still more than enough to get his attention to whatever is wrong in that section.

I thought that i wont be posting in this thread anymore, but i just cant stand it when he starts talking about him self like that, how much he been throw and how much of a " spirited " guy he is and to be honest it all sounds self-centered to me, and i can't keep quiet when that happens.

This is not your application m7mdxlife. This application is about me and how my experiences could benefit the community. I appreciate your comments, but you have made your opinion known. I will be reporting you if you continue spamming my thread with insults.

Lucky me you are not a mod yet or i would've received an infraction by now.

And no mate the application is not about you, its about your position in this community, and your experience would benefit the community without the need of the mod status, and if you think that im " insulting " you then you have proven my point.

And to clarify what i meant when i said that you are not good enough in general to become a mod i'll quote the post that got me a warning in one of your threads and your recent reply in a thread in one of the CO sections.

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lol am sorry but i'm sitting my ass here bored and got nothing to do and cant sleep at all so i decided to sniff around the co forums and couldn't help it not to notice this thread, what really made my read it from the 1st useless post till the last one was blackNull's replay when he mentioned some " history ".. reading the entire thread made me realize one thing: Fang bro, i don't know what was your " attitude " before you made that account or what problems you had, but you are a ****** :) 1st of all, you don't get to call ANY source " Garbage " simply for the fact that a source takes a decent amount of time to build or edit, if you think its garbage then keep your opinion to your self and dont list the source, reading through the thread showed that you didn't post many sources that are considered to be " good sources " by others, yet you posted the sources that you think are garbage and shouldn't be used what so ever 2nd of all: Quote: Patch 5127 [Conquer 2.0: New Dynasty]: The enlightenment system was added (one of the most annoying systems in Conquer in my opinion). Action buttons were moved, interactions were added (which is awesome). enlightenment is annoying and interactions are awesome? pretty much self explanatory i think. Quote: This was my favorite patch until it became so popular and over-used. This has become the "trash patch" for development. self explanatory as well. Quote: Notice: There's no way that I'm spending my time listing all of the crappy edits for NewestCoServer. read this quote then go back to your 1st post and calculate how many source you called " garbage " and recommended people not to use them. Quote: Originally Posted by Fаng I did, but I removed it a long time ago and put it on my blog. It's still on my blog, but since all of the links are elitepvpers now... I thought I might as well just post it here. Start listing. This thread isn't supposed to cover every since ghetto source out there though. It's only going to cover popular sources or sources that deserve recognition. Quote: Originally Posted by Fаng There. That should be good now. I'm surprised that I can still edit this list. It's getting really long and elitepvpers is starting to have problems with editing it. I guess if it gets too long, I could just make it a link going to my blog's page. A. removed a post and added it to your blog, and now thinking about removing this thread and adding it to your blog too, few days/weeks later you'll make another thread just like these 2 threads, for? B. yeah the thread isnt supposed to cover every single ghetto source out there, however; " garbage " sources are popular and deserve recognition. seems legit. Quote: Originally Posted by Fаng I really don't like Kibou. I did work really hard on it but I learned so much since then. It's kinda a bad source that uses bad methods (in my opinion). I thought you created this thread for the benefit of the community, now all off a sudden its all about what YOU think about a source and how you feel about other members? Quote: Originally Posted by Fаng There. I added it. Is there anything else that I'm missing that should be noted? Also, I want to just state that my opinions from 3 months ago and further back were really biased. The personality I was showing wasn't the real me because I was going through a lot of shit. Please excuse me for anything I previously said before this account was created. Sorry mate but the personality you were showing is the real you, you think its not but trust me, look at the bigger image and you will see it, all you need to do is accept the one and only fact, you are an *******, was, still and always will be one :) yay for an infraction to come!!

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Originally Posted by Fаng It didn't take me a few months to change who I was. I've been recovering from a trauma that consumed half of my life here on earth. I hate nobody, not even the person who caused my trauma. Hate is a strong word and I would never use it towards a member here or of any other community. I continue to believe that my past actions don't influence this application, yet I can't help but wonder how the staff must see me. All I know is how dedicated I am to this community. Without this community, I wouldn't be going to college right now. I wouldn't have a career path or people begging me to work for them. All I'm asking for is an opportunity to give back. It really hurts me when I see an entire section ignored, like the CO2 Weapon, Armor, Effects & Interface Edits section. It needs moderation; however, there's not a single moderator willing to even open the section. I don't want it to die. I don't want Conquer Online development to die. There are so many opportunities in it. That's why I want to be a moderator. I want to help the community see those opportunities. The administrators don't really have a choice. They could either continue to ignore this application or accept me. The section can't be balanced on one moderator and I'm the only one qualified to lend a helping hand. I fit the part because I know how to be a leader. I lead my life through events that nobody I know could even imagine. I lead my family through hard times in the economy. I'm the reason why my mom has a job and why my grandma has a roof over her head. I am a leader. Previously, I was a moderator on 4botters. When I first started, I had problems. I stepped down to allow myself to recover the strength and impartiality I needed to lead a forum. The day I arrived back, I was immediately promoted to Moderator of the Conquer Online section, and I was soon promoted again to Global Moderator. I remember the fights you're mentioning, and I remember attempting to talk to every participant to stabilize the forum again. If you left the community out of loathsome feelings against me, then that's not my problem. I'm proud of my moderating position on 4botters and I was sad to leave after half a year of service. I left because this forum needs my help. I see development on this forum that I'd never see on 4botters. There are opportunities here, as I've said before, and I know how to reach them. I'm the top computer science student at my college. I set the curve and it's thanks to this forum for getting me there. It's thanks to previous moderators like Korvacs (Jack) and Pro4Never (Chris) that I found opportunities here. I'm not mad at you. I'm not trying to direct this wall of text at you either. I hope some day you can see the true side of me that everyone else higher up has seen. People make mistakes and I'm an example. I don't suppress that fact. I'm not perfect and I'm not trying to be. I never tried changing who I was. I'm a positive, spirited person and I care about the members here. At one time, I cared too much about the opinions being made about me. It's taken me time to grow up. I know it's hard to find trust in someone you've despised for such a long time. Please though, try to find some trust in me. I'm only applying here because the staff needs a helping hand and the members need another moderator to give attention to the sections that the current and past moderators ignored. I'm sorry that I'm not who you expected to be until now. Thanks so much if you can understand my position. Sincerely, Spirited Fang

Sincerily,
bullshit... you're no the only one qualified for that position, that`s an insult towards other helpful, active, reliable, honest members. There is a guy out there, named nT3flty what so ever and he`s a good guy, helpful, "not really active, but when he is, it`s visible" and i find him more qualified for that job. even tough he`s not applying, i would rather see him as a mod than you.
later edit: i forgot to mention about cptsky...

I will not state my qualifications again. Please read my previous comments for the wall of text. I would like to remind you though that I'm the only active and willing applicant. If you wish to run against me, please do so. The two things I'm worried about are the members and the section. We need another moderator.

#request clean - personal hatred doesn't belong on an application thread. We're supposed to be supportive, respectable adults / mature individuals here. If you have anything that adds to the application (in a positive or negative way), please state it in a respectable manor. State it once and do not spam the application with threats, stories, responses to other comments (unless it builds into a stronger or new idea), or any other irrelevant topic.

You should be able to handle any kind of criticism, even inappropriate posts. There is a Tibetan saying that applies to such situation: "The knowing ones do not talk, the talking ones do not know." In a more clear way, one could say that sometimes it is better to keep one's mouth shut - or, one's hand away from keyboard.

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Originally Posted by Nomad' You should be able to handle any kind of criticism, even inappropriate posts. There is a Tibetan saying that applies to such situation: "The knowing ones do not talk, the talking ones do not know." In a more clear way, one could say that sometimes it is better to keep one's mouth shut - or, one's hand away from keyboard.

It's not that I can't handle it. There's nothing they can say that could offend me. I just don't find their posts to be criticism at this point. They've made their opinions known, and I respect that. The repetitious fashion of their recent posts isn't promoted on application threads. It's like the Decker example that we've seen already on this thread.

Edit: Point taken though. I'll just wait it out. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Fаng I will not state my qualifications again. Please read my previous comments for the wall of text. I would like to remind you though that I'm the only active and willing applicant. If you wish to run against me, please do so. The two things I'm worried about are the members and the section. We need another moderator. #request clean - personal hatred doesn't belong on an application thread. We're supposed to be supportive, respectable adults / mature individuals here. If you have anything that adds to the application (in a positive or negative way), please state it in a respectable manor. State it once and do not spam the application with threats, stories, responses to other comments (unless it builds into a stronger or new idea), or any other irrelevant topic.

This is my last reply here, I won`t continue for +1 but here`s my other two cents: I was very a respectable adult and a lot mature in my words. If i would just state my real way of telling you that you`re not the one qualified for this position would be something like "gtfo u r####d, go to 4bo####s and stfu u r the biggest i###t i`ve ever seen". Understand now? We do not need a whole no idea about youself because you are the same, you cannot change and you caNNOT be a moderator, you do not deserve this right so stop acting like "oh, i`m fang and i`m the best here because i gave my grandma a "roof":/". sincerily, the most patethic application its yours, look at p4n or other people applications, there`s no such drama as in yours. you feel like you deserve this after "all your trauma and etc etc" like we owe you something and you want to get it back now. kid, grow up, you cannot come into a large mass of people and say i`m the leader here, we`re not animals, we think, we react, sometimes based on our feelings not on our thinking but yet we`re humans, rationals. good bye, i hope you will never be assigned as a staff member.