How about....

[SiggyMaker]

Some of you devs come together and make a server where not everything is handed to you, you gotta work but not TOO hard to lvl, get gear, and pvp.

A server where donnors dont prevail. Recently I've seen a outburst of new servers, and i beleive most of them arent even worth looking at.

Whats the point of having 20 servers each with 300 ppl on em instead of 2-3 good ones with 3000-4000 ppl? Cmon devs, teamwork :| cus atm, shaiya is a sad game to be playing.

[[Dev]Ansem]

Well would be possible but current servers wont close for a dev server :/

[Bаne]

Dev team voted no on that awile ago....sorry

[SiggyMaker]

Lol -.-' so many tiny servers and no big ones.

[[Admin]Snuggle]

im working on one like that o.o
its still in a open beta trial&error stage xD
changing a lot to try to make it better
theres a very thin line between too hard and too easy
yet im ep5..which a lot of ppl i see dont like...
-edit-
new updates for my server coming this week o.o

[Gatewayto]

Isn't that what all private sever are (easier to level, easier to get gears, pvp focus)? If I'm wrong, then what is the different from a private server and OS? Maybe you have been playing too many private server to remember the reality of OS?

[Linxis172]

This idea has been made so many times and hasnt been approved.
Its not that we dont want it, but its just not realistic,
e.g.

Originally Posted by Greester

but current servers wont close for a dev server :/

But i agree there should be less servers, way too many out right now and most of them suck. And making like 3 or 4 big main ones would be super hard cause there are so many selfish GMs out there.

[-III-]

I can say this much:

Shaiya Absolution is not ever 24 hours old yet. Within the first 15 minutes of having it open, I counted at least 13 people log on, play for 5 minutes and leave because

'Im only level 13 and have no legend or goddess yet.'

Or better yet,

'There is no people here. How am I supposed to get plvl'd? Too much work, I go back to Nemesis.'

Or again,

'There no items on AH. Where I supposed to get gears? No gear = No level. No level = No pvp.'

The point is that many servers try to do just as you ask. The sad reality of it is that people are impatient and lazy. The want it all, and they want it now. These few servers that try to offer exactly what you are asking for end up drowning in their own expenses and lack of player base.

Absolution for example :

Yes, we have worship and dread 15 and 30 helms on the Item Mall. However, we also have Lep Hats, Mili Caps, and One slot caps at an NPC for 15 PvP'ers, and Heroic helms at another NPC for the 30's.

Thus providing minimal difference between what is available to donator and those who can not or simply don't donate.

Furthermore, yes, Lapisia is on the item mall. They are also at NPC, pouches, and as drops. Same thing goes for Op hammers. On the item mall for the donator's, but still available in game.

The problem most of the time isn't the server, but rather the players who are not willing to put forth the effort. The want free items, but do not want to work for them.

All in all, the player base shrinks and the server dies. Regardless of the server's developing efforts.

This is one thing that is all too often ignored when everyone states what they want. They have exact expectations of what they want, and if it doesn't match up, it is not worth the time. No server can cater to each and every person. It is not the developers that need to compromise, but rather the player base in itself.

We can only give what is asked for. After that, it is up to the player.

Lastly, when a server does open giving a majority what they want, players are again impatient. At some point the players need to realize that on a new server, it is going to take time. Immediate results can not be expected on a server which has just opened and has no player base to help support those who do not want to do the work themselves.

Sadly, this is not the case. They want something specific from a server. A server opens and gives them as they want. However, they ignore the fact that it is still a baby; get irritated because they have nobody to support their play but themselves, and they leave.

A small ripple of impatience very easily spreads into a wave of people leaving a server. If players are not willing to commit the time to get what they want from a server, then it is them who is to blame for their failure. Not the server. Not the developer. Not the community. They, themselves, and by themselves.

Until this is realized, they are just S.O.L

-III-

[[Admin]Snuggle]

i completely agree with what -III- has to say
first i tried making a server a lot like OS but with less "donaters have it all" and "horrible staff" lol
and ofc i get the reaction of "this is too hard QQ"
so im working to the best i can of making that fine line between easy and hard
ive seen..the most successful(successful by playerbase only)
have it quite easy to get things up until lvl 65+ items
which you can pvp and all that in dreamy gear still
yet there is still that crave for the uber gear
question is..how do you solve that without making it too complex or easy?
you really cant unless you give bosses 5 min spawns and 500k hp or something :/
which again..brings up the easy issue...

[-III-]

Originally Posted by shadow5833

i completely agree with what -III- has to say
first i tried making a server a lot like OS but with less "donaters have it all" and "horrible staff" lol
and ofc i get the reaction of "this is too hard QQ"
so im working to the best i can of making that fine line between easy and hard
ive seen..the most successful(successful by playerbase only)
have it quite easy to get things up until lvl 65+ items
which you can pvp and all that in dreamy gear still
yet there is still that crave for the uber gear
question is..how do you solve that without making it too complex or easy?
you really cant unless you give bosses 5 min spawns and 500k hp or something :/
which again..brings up the easy issue...

And a fine job you are doing on Chaotic. And don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It actually pains me to say that as Chaotic is the closest competition I will have with Absolution as far as server design goes, lol. But truly, grats on a quality server thus far. Keep up the good work.

I actually have several family members and former guild mates that play on Chaotic and they love it.

[[Admin]Snuggle]

why thank you
working hard to make it better (:
been busy lately so there hasnt been many updates :/
cant wait til i have a break
then ill work my a** off to improve it every way possible
absolution looks cool from what i see

[SiggyMaker]

I agree people are idiots.

I'm mostly focusing on the 20 200x XP 90%+free itemmall servers not on servers like yours :|

[[Admin]Snuggle]

Originally Posted by SiggyMaker

I'm mostly focusing on the 20 200x XP 90%+free itemmall servers

thats a lazy server in my opinion.

[Givenrobin]

There are allot of reasons why there are so many servers.
People are picky
I want Ep5 High Rate with enchants, John wants Ep4 Mid Rate without enchants,
Lucy wants Ep4 Highrate without enchants,Dave doesnt want a mass pvp server,...
Ofc you have a point a that there are allot servers that are 99% the same, which should just make 1 awesome server...

I'm happy with the still increasingly making of pservers.
i enjoy shaiya most when the players online are kept low.
Once i find that the server that i play gets too crowded, i move on to the next one with lower population