Spear Force Hybrid PVP

fintan1337 · 08/20/2010, 15:01

Hey,

u like it?

(not the best edit, im working on it :S) ^^

my opponent was full str force bow, same level, got prem+

Medically Insane · 08/20/2010, 16:36

man i was thinking of the same build like 3 months ago, everyone told me it would fail tho, cant wait to see what comes out of it, i think it will be good, just think full INT would be better tho, since u got Robes for 20% less MP, and Force adds MP so u can use even higher snow shield....but grinding imo sucks doesnt it? ice nukes are weakest, but the PVP looks worth it. Good Job, keep it up and keep posting

Delirium12 · 08/20/2010, 16:41

Lol try zooming in on the pvp a lil bit more and add some effects...
Anyway the build is okay against chinese fails against euros with cleric sub. (which is like 80% of them...)

Medically Insane · 08/20/2010, 17:11

rsro's holy word is 50%....and how do you know it fails? u got a capped char exactly this build? i doubt it, so stfu....dont talk about something you dont know.

fintan1337 · 08/20/2010, 17:18

i wouldnt make full int, cuz when snow runs out youll be dead!

full str CHIN chars are 2 hit (mostly, with snow needs a bit longer)
full int CHIN are mostly 1-2hit. (WITH SNOW!!!)
full int EURO are 1hit too ^^ (with bless 2hit)
full str EURO are 2-3 hit (if they play fair, not bless + skins, if they use skins, just open ice wall and wait

)

so, i love my char. i will make new movies at 9D soon, im not a good movie maker, i just wanted to show my build!

also, mobs are 2hit too.

so no problem at grinding, for giants i use debuffs for nice dmg :]
i can make a grind movie for u if u want :]

imbackbizatch · 08/20/2010, 17:57

nice build!
i was just thinking about this last week! you were wayyy ahead of me

i even asked here if ice+force > fire, no one knew :P
awesome build man!
-will s/s work with ice and force too? since it offers more def+block(but less hp and damage)
-will 70/70 build work with ice/force/any weapon(less damage than int, higher crits, higher phy def,hp)?

so many possible combinations since now we know that ice+force works

edit: whats the ratio of your hybrid int?

fintan1337 · 08/20/2010, 18:13

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Originally Posted by imbackbizatch

nice build!
i was just thinking about this last week! you were wayyy ahead of me i even asked here if ice+force > fire, no one knew :P
awesome build man!
-will s/s work with ice and force too? since it offers more def+block(but less hp and damage)
-will 70/70 build work with ice/force/any weapon(less damage than int, higher crits, higher phy def,hp)?
so many possible combinations since now we know that ice+force works

edit: whats the ratio of your hybrid int?

4:1
i wouldnt do 70:70 cuz the dmg would be much lower, i think my is perfect.

s/s and force wouldnt be so good, becouse u get already debuffs from bicheon

Delirium12 · 08/20/2010, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Medically Insane

rsro's holy word is 50%....and how do you know it fails? u got a capped char exactly this build? i doubt it, so stfu....dont talk about something you dont know.

o.O so what? They dont have stun or sleep like a warlock to keep the cleric from taking the debuffs off...

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Originally Posted by fintan1337

4:1
i wouldnt do 70:70 cuz the dmg would be much lower, i think my is perfect.

s/s and force wouldnt be so good, becouse u get already debuffs from bicheon

70:70 is fine, 65:75 is a little better, I guess 4:1 is pretty good too but extra hp is always nice and you already do a lot of dmg due to the debuffs unless people use pills and integrity and such...
Theres a 70:70 spear with fire and it has pretty good dmg and 30-some k hp... look it up maybe it'll inspire you to add more str

fintan1337 · 08/20/2010, 19:28

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Originally Posted by Delirium12

o.O so what? They dont have stun or sleep like a warlock to keep the cleric from taking the debuffs off...

70:70 is fine, 65:75 is a little better, I guess 4:1 is pretty good too but extra hp is always nice and you already do a lot of dmg due to the debuffs unless people use pills and integrity and such...
Theres a 70:70 spear with fire and it has pretty good dmg and 30-some k hp... look it up maybe it'll inspire you to add more str

i dont think ill add more str, i want to keep my dmg, i can tank alot with snow, even the good skills from warriors arent heavy for me.

at the moment im lvling a bow with the same build, i think it can own too, with attack rating increase, knockback and crits

Delirium12 · 08/20/2010, 19:33

Same build meaning int wise or skill wise?
Anyway I think its a pretty good build but its not as good against euros =X
Wish you werent on zeus I'd pvp you with my 68 rogue/cleric xD

Medically Insane · 08/20/2010, 19:51

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Originally Posted by Delirium12

o.O so what? They dont have stun or sleep like a warlock to keep the cleric from taking the debuffs off...

By the time they keep taking debuffs off, they will be dead...

70:70 is fine, 65:75 is a little better, I guess 4:1 is pretty good too but extra hp is always nice and you already do a lot of dmg due to the debuffs unless people use pills and integrity and such...
Theres a 70:70 spear with fire and it has pretty good dmg and 30-some k hp... look it up maybe it'll inspire you to add more str

^^ with fire, this is ice, so making more str will lower hid damage, and his tanking ability will be the same, since hd wont die with snow....

Also, how can u be so sure its not good against euros? i hate ppl like this, they have never seen a good person with this build in action and they think it sucks....

fintan1337 · 08/20/2010, 19:57

IT IS GOOD AGAINST EUROS /capslock, like i said.
man, euros have 15 sec pot delay, i got a beasty dmg

so u can imagine

when they use bless spell, i keep spamming ice wall, the same with mana/iron skin!

Delirium12 · 08/20/2010, 19:59

So? I can make an educated guess due to the fact that euros have holy word which means 50% less chances of getting the debuff on and they can take it off with integrity so force is useless against euros with cleric sub and heuk/cold wont be enough...
I hate people who can never understand obvious facts.

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Originally Posted by fintan1337

IT IS GOOD AGAINST EUROS /capslock, like i said.
man, euros have 15 sec pot delay, i got a beasty dmg
so u can imagine

Have you pvped an euro who uses more than recovery division holy word and bless? >.<
I can tank ints that are higher lvl than me cos I just try to kd and use DD and mortal wounds and if I dont kd I go back to cleric and spam heals, I'll make a vid once the 100% exp event is over if you want.
I keep my recovery and group recovery (instant heals) at lvl 1 so I still get 300% weap reflect and I still heal a lot w/o using a lot of mp...

EDIT: And with cleric rod+shield I get way more def from passives buffs and from the shield... So if the debuffs are on I just switch to cleric rod kb with shield trash take off the debuffs do a quick heal recast my healing cycle kd DD and mortal wounds...

fintan1337 · 08/20/2010, 20:02

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Originally Posted by Delirium12

So? I can make an educated guess due to the fact that euros have holy word which means 50% less chances of getting the debuff on and they can take it off with integrity so force is useless against euros with cleric sub and heuk/cold wont be enough...
I hate people who can never understand obvious facts.

i also got debuffs for parry ratio and attack rating, they work 100%.

so more dmg, bcuz of less defense!

also, before u can switch to cleric, ure dead

Delirium12 · 08/20/2010, 20:13

Lol really?
Didn't know you can do like 12k dmg in 1 second...
Besides I have cleric rod on when I start >.<