What to do with my 70:70 char

pocketrocket_ · 11/19/2009, 20:44

As the title says, i don't know what i should do with my current 70:70 Archer.

It's lvl100 and FF, it's nice at PvE, but i don't really like it in PvP.
The damage differs just a bit with pure STR archer, it can't compensate with the difference in HP and difference in crit damage. (On INT chars in garment the damage is lower than pure STR archer's damage)

I was thinking about switching to heuksal, but it's hard to find players with 70:70 spear build. Are there any lvl100 players that can tell me more about 70:70 spear build at this cap? I know it will be worse at PvE compared to my current build, but i would like to know the spear build does in PvP.

Btw, this are my current masteries: 100 Pacheon/Fire, 66 Cold, 34 Lightning.

LittleDreamer · 11/19/2009, 21:24

delete char and make a new one =_=

pocketrocket_ · 11/19/2009, 21:35

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Originally Posted by LittleDreamer

delete char and make a new one =_=

**** yeah, i could have thought about that myself, of course i should delete a lvl100 char with 300k spare SP....

N00bcake · 11/19/2009, 22:51

Sell it, or farm a char with it, or trade for a FF char for it, its a waste to skill whole Pacheon back..

LittleDreamer · 11/19/2009, 22:53

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Originally Posted by pocketrocket_

**** yeah, i could have thought about that myself, of course i should delete a lvl100 char with 300k spare SP....

farm a new char and then sell it <.<

applesauceface · 11/19/2009, 22:56

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Originally Posted by LittleDreamer

farm a new char and then sell it <.<

+1

pocketrocket_ · 11/19/2009, 22:56

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Originally Posted by N00bcake

Sell it, or farm a char with it, or trade for a FF char for it, its a waste to skill whole Pacheon back..

So you actually want to say that once i switched to Heuksal, i want to switch back to Pacheon again? (because 70:70 Heuksal sucks)

N00bcake · 11/20/2009, 00:21

No i mean, you already chose your build, and spend all that SP in it..if this char would be mine, i wouldnt skill Pacheon back, keep it and farm a new char, lvl the new char and then sell this one (since you got some nice SP left you might be even FF for 105).
In the end its up to you, nowadays not the builds are the point which decides of win or lose, its moreover if you got Magic Pop Sun(s), DS, Prem+ and so on. Also i wouldnt give much into the opinion of others (since you asked for FF 70:70 Heuksal builds), there are always some which say it sucks, and some which say its amazing .. and both of them didnt made it to FF Lvl 100

mamazele · 11/20/2009, 01:45

well! i have 70:70 bower and it owns all girls out there

Depends on how you are skilled! If you dont like it, try converting it into spear. Have friend with that build and i got to tell you hes respected!

WorldDj · 11/20/2009, 03:22

70:70 spear may be a good build run in protector with 2 sosun items (chest and something else) and a Fb set with +5 to +7 and a sos/sosun accessories (Pricey), then get your cold to level 70 or 80 and use the snow shield and see yourself...if you didn't like it then DANG, restart character.

pocketrocket_ · 11/20/2009, 12:05

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Originally Posted by N00bcake

No i mean, you already chose your build, and spend all that SP in it..if this char would be mine, i wouldnt skill Pacheon back, keep it and farm a new char, lvl the new char and then sell this one (since you got some nice SP left you might be even FF for 105).
In the end its up to you, nowadays not the builds are the point which decides of win or lose, its moreover if you got Magic Pop Sun(s), DS, Prem+ and so on. Also i wouldnt give much into the opinion of others (since you asked for FF 70:70 Heuksal builds), there are always some which say it sucks, and some which say its amazing .. and both of them didnt made it to FF Lvl 100

Ok, it's clear to me now. I only think it's not worth selling, today's char prices are so damn low, i think i'd keep it rather than selling it for a low amount of money.

And indeed, some people say a particular build sucks, others say it owns. I would like to see somebody with 70:70 spear build in action on my server but didn't find any yet.

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Originally Posted by mamazele

well! i have 70:70 bower and it owns all girls out there Depends on how you are skilled! If you dont like it, try converting it into spear. Have friend with that build and i got to tell you hes respected!

Your bower is lvl100 FF? I noticed that it's damn hard to kill an opponent (both Str and Int type chars), even with a row of crits it's really hard to kill a Str based char and the low damage on Ints (especially in garment) also makes it hard to kill them, not to talk about the damage you take from Int based characters. My gear isn't shitty, it's +5 FB protector set, +5 FB jewelry and 98 +7 FB Bow with nice white stats.

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Originally Posted by WorldDj

70:70 spear may be a good build run in protector with 2 sosun items (chest and something else) and a Fb set with +5 to +7 and a sos/sosun accessories (Pricey), then get your cold to level 70 or 80 and use the snow shield and see yourself...if you didn't like it then DANG, restart character.

Isn't every build supposed to shine with such gear?

ferdylols · 11/20/2009, 13:49

I would say keep the char

why not.. but if i where you i would change to heuksal i have here a Youtube link 4 u

sum1 posted this be4 but i can't remember who it was.. so credits 2 that person

(pm me and i will give u credit) check it here it's 70:70 spear maybe u like it but there is no best build.. it only depends on how many $ u spend on ur char

kind regards,

ferdylols

LittleDreamer · 11/20/2009, 14:02

that video fails.. that spear nuker is afraid of pvping euros lol he whould get pwned even by a bard cleric

pocketrocket_ · 11/20/2009, 16:32

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Originally Posted by ferdylols

I would say keep the char why not.. but if i where you i would change to heuksal i have here a Youtube link 4 u sum1 posted this be4 but i can't remember who it was.. so credits 2 that person (pm me and i will give u credit) check it here it's 70:70 spear maybe u like it but there is no best build.. it only depends on how many $ u spend on ur char

kind regards,

ferdylols

Thanks for the link, but 90 cap is 'slightly' outdated

If a particular build at 90 cap for example is a good one, it doesn't guarantee you that it will do just as good at 100 cap.
Take archers for example, at 70 cap they had no skills like stun and KB, but after each cap update they became stronger.
Also, on 70 cap, a 70:70 archer was alot better than it currently is.

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Originally Posted by LittleDreamer

that video fails.. that spear nuker is afraid of pvping euros lol he whould get pwned even by a bard cleric

You are right that he will get pwned by chars with cleric as mastery, but as you know every char has its strong and weak points.
Most Force based builds have alot of trouble fighting euro chars with cleric mastery, but on the other hand, i saw Force based chars beating people with sosun weapon while they were using an ordinary +7 weapon themselves.