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xthinhx 12/08/2006 02:45

From what I have seen around the forum, it seems that Cotobo will not be working after patch 4331. I also found on the Cotobo forum that Chocoman will neither be upgrading Cotobo anymore nor releasing its source code. I can only guess that either someone will come up with another program that can come close to Cotobo or somehow, through some super miracle, that Chocoman comes back to epvpers and help everyone including myself to continue to use Cotobo. I am sure that I am one of the "leechers" on this forum that might have been the cause for Chocoman to leave, but it is only natural for someone like me who only played conquer for about 6 months to leech because being so new to the game. I'm sure that if I continue to play conquer then I would be able to find useful things in the game which I could contribute to this forum. However, for the past three months or so I been going to school and barely played conquer at all, but I was still able to make money thanks to Cotobo. So I'm really hoping that Cotobo will be fix or another program similar in nature will be created. Lol thanks for taking time to read this and thank you even more if you took time to help out beginners like me. Happy Early Holidays everyone :D

tsu 12/08/2006 03:01

nope, no fixes anymore schoolboy :cool:

JoeyChingas 12/08/2006 03:04

touching story but it aint gonna happend :/

xthinhx 12/08/2006 03:48

"sigh" at least I made some money before the patch lol

sneta 12/08/2006 04:00

Yeah, just tried COTobo, and no luck, I'm trying to work on a new multiclient now, cause they fixed both the conquer.exe "english" and the GameData.dll "english" hack.

-_-

xthinhx 12/08/2006 04:24

Quote:

Originally posted by sneta@Dec 8 2006, 04:00
Yeah, just tried COTobo, and no luck, I'm trying to work on a new multiclient now, cause they fixed both the conquer.exe "english" and the GameData.dll "english" hack.

-_-

:) Yay atleast something is getting repaired lol, now only there is someone brave enough to tackle the Cotobo challenge

Superkev 12/08/2006 04:31

Maybe you should try contributing to the forum before u try and get people to make progs for you =\ IMO all progs should be private untill people get a certain amount of posts/karma/time signed up.

Imperial_Legion 12/08/2006 04:40

I have installed the Dec 11 patch and changed the files to make it run alltho it looks like there going to crash the conquer economy because the new patch changes the game to be more like Eudemons with points like eudemon points coins may become a distant form of payment.. i have noticed tho that i can still use COtobo i had a problem with one computer running it... if you have problems with COtobo with the new patch reinstall Conquer and try again worked for me....[img]text2schild.php?smilienummer=1&text=What Are they doing to Conquer????' border='0' alt='What Are they doing to Conquer????' />

GIZMO0425 12/08/2006 04:49

well every thing about this patch seems rather stupid to me.not only are they going to wipe out all teh bots they are going to make peopel loose game time by hacking the game once again.hacks will never stop and tq ideas will keep coming.i give it one month maybe two and all hacks will be up and running again.my one problim is i am about to get second rb.i will wait now untill i see what all happens after monday.i would not want to be stuck lvling all teh way back up by hand.

sneta 12/08/2006 05:20

The whole "No PKing Noobs 27 or lower" is the worst part of it IMHO, there goes the non-stop "PLVL ME!!".. -_-

Wonder what they were thinking when they made that, "lets piss off the high levels"?

howaboutno 12/08/2006 05:24

Lol. Come on people. This is the REAL game here. TQ vs epvp.

They just had their turn, now its ours.
Multiclient should be easy for you to fix. I know some people on here have hacked one out of the new patch already.

I can't do tobo, and i don't know who can, but we've already got a decryption for itemtype.dat, so we'll be able to view Ref/Uni/Eli/Super/Fix/Token on the ground.
I'm halfway done a conversion, but I won't be able to test it until monday.

This situation is where its time for the n00b epvpers to shine, and for the lurkers to come out of the shadows. If you want these hax made, then start figuring out how to make them. Don't just wait for someone else. :)

Join the real game! Beat the TQ guild.. Epvp guild ftw!

Peach 12/08/2006 07:34

too many leechers here they dont even try to contribute.. no point nothing should be released here

gundam0 12/08/2006 11:14

well without source code i dont see anyone releasing a fixed one you can try to rebuild it but that wont work well since most program's for that are shitty so maybe someone will create a new one or maybe you'll just be stuck to the old go mining get owned i know this will bring back the mine pking 100 fold everyone and there grandma is gonna go mine pking

JoeyChingas 12/08/2006 12:12

Quote:

Originally posted by Peach@Dec 8 2006, 01:34
too many leechers here they dont even try to contribute.. no point nothing should be released here
i second that

Tombstone 12/08/2006 12:49

Quote:

Originally posted by Peach@Dec 8 2006, 01:34
too many leechers here they dont even try to contribute.. no point nothing should be released here
Leechers aren't the problem, everybody leeches whatever they can get, that's reality and people know this when they post programs to share with us. If they didn't want us to use the programs they make, they wouldn't post them. And if someone doesn't have the aptitude to create their own worthy programs to share, I don't think Choco or anyone else holds that against them.

I think the real problem is that this forum freely allows any and all dumbass noob kids on the internet to join up, that's the problem. These dipshits respect nothing, appreciate nothing, value nothing... Half the people here don't even understand fully how to play the game of Conquer, they are noobs and yet they're allowed to just waltz in here and have open access to invaluable programs like Cotobo which they can't begin to truly appreciate.

Personally I couldn't program a VCR without having the instruction manual but as noted, I don't think that's the issue at all. Having a forum full of complete idiots is the issue. From what I've seen here, no self-respecting programmer would dare post his hard work here for these ungrateful morons.

Epvpers obviously isn't going to change the way they do things, they will not acknowledge that their open-door policies for letting any and every idiot join here who wants to, has lowered this place to a status that's hardly above the Conquer forums themselves. If anyone has knowledge of a forum of this type that doesn't allow nor tolerate idiots, noobs and stupid kids that discourage all the respectable participants... I'd appreciate a pm about it.

noelm 12/08/2006 13:33

Quote:

Originally posted by Tombstone+Dec 8 2006, 12:49--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tombstone @ Dec 8 2006, 12:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Peach@Dec 8 2006, 01:34
too many leechers here they dont even try to contribute.. no point nothing should be released here
Leechers aren't the problem, everybody leeches whatever they can get, that's reality and people know this when they post programs to share with us. If they didn't want us to use the programs they make, they wouldn't post them. And if someone doesn't have the aptitude to create their own worthy programs to share, I don't think Choco or anyone else holds that against them.

I think the real problem is that this forum freely allows any and all dumbass noob kids on the internet to join up, that's the problem. These dipshits respect nothing, appreciate nothing, value nothing... Half the people here don't even understand fully how to play the game of Conquer, they are noobs and yet they're allowed to just waltz in here and have open access to invaluable programs like Cotobo which they can't begin to truly appreciate.

Personally I couldn't program a VCR without having the instruction manual but as noted, I don't think that's the issue at all. Having a forum full of complete idiots is the issue. From what I've seen here, no self-respecting programmer would dare post his hard work here for these ungrateful morons.

Epvpers obviously isn't going to change the way they do things, they will not acknowledge that their open-door policies for letting any and every idiot join here who wants to, has lowered this place to a status that's hardly above the Conquer forums themselves. If anyone has knowledge of a forum of this type that doesn't allow nor tolerate idiots, noobs and stupid kids that discourage all the respectable participants... I'd appreciate a pm about it.
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I completely agree with you on that one.

FlameZ 12/08/2006 13:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Tombstone+Dec 8 2006, 12:49--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tombstone @ Dec 8 2006, 12:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Peach@Dec 8 2006, 01:34
too many leechers here they dont even try to contribute.. no point nothing should be released here
Leechers aren't the problem, everybody leeches whatever they can get, that's reality and people know this when they post programs to share with us. If they didn't want us to use the programs they make, they wouldn't post them. And if someone doesn't have the aptitude to create their own worthy programs to share, I don't think Choco or anyone else holds that against them.

I think the real problem is that this forum freely allows any and all dumbass noob kids on the internet to join up, that's the problem. These dipshits respect nothing, appreciate nothing, value nothing... Half the people here don't even understand fully how to play the game of Conquer, they are noobs and yet they're allowed to just waltz in here and have open access to invaluable programs like Cotobo which they can't begin to truly appreciate.

Personally I couldn't program a VCR without having the instruction manual but as noted, I don't think that's the issue at all. Having a forum full of complete idiots is the issue. From what I've seen here, no self-respecting programmer would dare post his hard work here for these ungrateful morons.

Epvpers obviously isn't going to change the way they do things, they will not acknowledge that their open-door policies for letting any and every idiot join here who wants to, has lowered this place to a status that's hardly above the Conquer forums themselves. If anyone has knowledge of a forum of this type that doesn't allow nor tolerate idiots, noobs and stupid kids that discourage all the respectable participants... I'd appreciate a pm about it.
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Amen! im teh leecher :D but i do appreciate what the programmers have done..they made alot easier to
lvl after i chanced server (lvled to 120 in previous server without bots :X). Anyways i hope if u make a new bot. Please dont post it on epvpers. Or any noob who has exactyl 1week experience of CO can just come and get it with out any respect or positive comments to the creator. Let only adcanced user of epvp use it or something. Which would mean that i dont get accees to em either but i dont mind cause if the boters keep on minimal I dont have to worry about peeps that just started the game and passes me after 1week.

wackojacko64 12/08/2006 13:58

(a bit of a rant, doesn't have a point lol)

@tombstone - I feel that some people in this forum should just create a new forum, with most of the usefull material thats on here (obviously with the owner's desression). I feel that when you are ... say about 3 months old on the forum, and the Post Moderators have checked you out, then you can release and download hacks. If such a forum was created, I would love to be a major part in it, to help refine my forum modding skills further. I am trying to get a grips with the coding thing to try and not be a leecher, but its proving unsuccessfull as I'm trying to get on with college at the moment. If you wanna chat further about it, or maybe arange it, PM me :D.

EDIT: with the forum, it wouldn't matter who you told, because the Post Moderator would check everyone. It could be a global Private Message saying what the URL of the forum is, so TQ wouldnt know. Also you would need a very stringent warning / banning policy.

I don't blame Choco- 'the ledgend' -man for not posting anymore, because I understand that these n00bs can neither spell, read or search. I'm nonchelant about Partner and 'Tobo, although they are neccessities, and I can't actually gain money without them, you can allways play CO how it is meant to be played. Would be nice if someone cracked it, but there is no need to be pushy about it.

Well, I had a nice rant, thats me for now.

(check the date I signed up if you think i'm a n00b. I remember BJX :P. I also enjoyed chatting to Mr Teenie on CO2 Alpha :D)

WJ64

xthinhx 12/08/2006 16:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Tombstone+Dec 8 2006, 12:49--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tombstone @ Dec 8 2006, 12:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Peach@Dec 8 2006, 01:34
too many leechers here they dont even try to contribute.. no point nothing should be released here
Leechers aren't the problem, everybody leeches whatever they can get, that's reality and people know this when they post programs to share with us. If they didn't want us to use the programs they make, they wouldn't post them. And if someone doesn't have the aptitude to create their own worthy programs to share, I don't think Choco or anyone else holds that against them.

I think the real problem is that this forum freely allows any and all dumbass noob kids on the internet to join up, that's the problem. These dipshits respect nothing, appreciate nothing, value nothing... Half the people here don't even understand fully how to play the game of Conquer, they are noobs and yet they're allowed to just waltz in here and have open access to invaluable programs like Cotobo which they can't begin to truly appreciate.

Personally I couldn't program a VCR without having the instruction manual but as noted, I don't think that's the issue at all. Having a forum full of complete idiots is the issue. From what I've seen here, no self-respecting programmer would dare post his hard work here for these ungrateful morons.

Epvpers obviously isn't going to change the way they do things, they will not acknowledge that their open-door policies for letting any and every idiot join here who wants to, has lowered this place to a status that's hardly above the Conquer forums themselves. If anyone has knowledge of a forum of this type that doesn't allow nor tolerate idiots, noobs and stupid kids that discourage all the respectable participants... I'd appreciate a pm about it.
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If a forum exists that fits ur description then can you tell me what you consider in your eyes to be worthy member? Because I have not been a member of epvpers for too long so I don't know that is expected of "worthy" members. So please tell me and I'll try my best not to be one of the "complete idiots" on this forum.

Superkev 12/08/2006 17:15

Quote:

Originally posted by wackojacko64@Dec 8 2006, 13:58
(a bit of a rant, doesn't have a point lol)

@tombstone - I feel that some people in this forum should just create a new forum, with most of the usefull material thats on here (obviously with the owner's desression). I feel that when you are ... say about 3 months old on the forum, and the Post Moderators have checked you out, then you can release and download hacks. If such a forum was created, I would love to be a major part in it, to help refine my forum modding skills further. I am trying to get a grips with the coding thing to try and not be a leecher, but its proving unsuccessfull as I'm trying to get on with college at the moment. If you wanna chat further about it, or maybe arange it, PM me :D.

EDIT: with the forum, it wouldn't matter who you told, because the Post Moderator would check everyone. It could be a global Private Message saying what the URL of the forum is, so TQ wouldnt know. Also you would need a very stringent warning / banning policy.

I don't blame Choco- 'the ledgend' -man for not posting anymore, because I understand that these n00bs can neither spell, read or search. I'm nonchelant about Partner and 'Tobo, although they are neccessities, and I can't actually gain money without them, you can allways play CO how it is meant to be played. Would be nice if someone cracked it, but there is no need to be pushy about it.

Well, I had a nice rant, thats me for now.

(check the date I signed up if you think i'm a n00b. I remember BJX :P)

WJ64

Agreed, i was a mod on a forum for a different game and people needed a certain amount of posts per day/total posts/karma/had to be a member for 3 months/had to apply for private member. It was great ^^ but no matter how hard you try TQ will ALWAYS find the forums that provide CO hacks =&#092; Even if say 50 members joined and it was an invite only forum and we let the forum slowly grow =)

wackojacko64 12/08/2006 19:11

Meh, it doesn't really matter if TQ find the site.

For example:

how long have we had COPartner and COtobo?
how long has it taken TQ to finally do some damage to disable the programs (Temporarily?)

On the forum note, I didn't mean posts. I meant if you havent posted in the first 2 months of creating an account, then it gets deleted. If it was a say 10 posts a month then everyone would post crap, and the forum would become crowded. I'd just have a verifying system. There has to be a non-automatic registering system, maybe where you fill a resume out, and the Post Mod reads it, and decides if you are genuine. This would mean a wait time, and a lardge selection of mods to verify the posts though. They can also 1st warning, 2nd, and 3rd, and ban you.

Did that make sense lmao?

I still don't understand why everyone has a bug up their ass about releasing the fixed Cotobo on Epvpers. You came here for hacks -> hacks screw up the game. You took that risk when you joined. So why are you worried all of a sudden that the game is gonna get screwed up? I just play double agent, and say that I hate botters, but at the same time saying that as I'm botting.

WJ64

noodlez 12/08/2006 19:31

Quote:

Originally posted by wackojacko64@Dec 8 2006, 19:11
Meh, it doesn't really matter if TQ find the site.

For example:

how long have we had COPartner and COtobo?
how long has it taken TQ to finally do some damage to disable the programs (Temporarily?)

On the forum note, I didn't mean posts. I meant if you havent posted in the first 2 months of creating an account, then it gets deleted. If it was a say 10 posts a month then everyone would post crap, and the forum would become crowded. I'd just have a verifying system. There has to be a non-automatic registering system, maybe where you fill a resume out, and the Post Mod reads it, and decides if you are genuine. This would mean a wait time, and a lardge selection of mods to verify the posts though. They can also 1st warning, 2nd, and 3rd, and ban you.

Did that make sense lmao?

I still don't understand why everyone has a bug up their ass about releasing the fixed Cotobo on Epvpers. You came here for hacks -> hacks screw up the game. You took that risk when you joined. So why are you worried all of a sudden that the game is gonna get screwed up? I just play double agent, and say that I hate botters, but at the same time saying that as I'm botting.

WJ64

haha i'm the same way, except im a fire tao, and i don't say i hate botters, i just say i dont care about them :) but honestly i don't really use cotobo to mine, i've only used it to refill arrows when i plvl on my archer.. so i mean, if cotobo really doesn't work on the next patch.. is there a bot out there to refill my arrows? :D Hahhaha jk :) but on the real note, i agree that evp should have the whole resume thing :) but i don't know how that would work out.. what would the person say? i came here to find hacks? haha >.<

ftrain 12/08/2006 21:49

well i would like to say, im a leecher.. im sorry i used chtobo and multi client.. and i would GLADLY give back if i knew a spit of how to do it... but i appreciate the help that yall have given. so when it comes back.. ill make sure to give some karma

Wolvereness 12/08/2006 22:42

Well, I have a webhost that I can start up a forum with this things. Anyone has a suggestion and want to work for it, I'd be happy to sponser.

evlreturned7 12/08/2006 23:34

how r they makin bots not work anymore? changing the packets? well... if that is the case... just get a pixel based ore dropper

german 12/08/2006 23:55

I'm a leecher as well; but you can tell the difference between some dumbass kid and someone who is an adult. Dumass kids ask the obvious dumbass questions that were already talked about 500 other times and are always asking for hacks. They are too lazy to do a little research or use the search button. The best I contribute is my ocassional suggestion, other then that I give karma and leech. I hope to one day contribute; you guys are better teachers then you know :D

howaboutno 12/08/2006 23:55

This is why I say its time for the leechers to stand up and take part. Even if its only something small. We've all been relying on people who know much more...

Its difficult the noobs shoes too, because even if we are eager to learn, the source codes and secrets are well guarded by those who create them.

I don't blame them at all. I've been in and out of epvp for a year or so, and things have just gotten worse. I remember a time back in Eagle server, where nobody had bots or anything.. the worst thing was file editing to gate-jump, which everyone and his dog's grandmother knew how to do... ignorance was bliss.

If Proxy Aimbot is gone for good. I'd have no regrets. I think it is the worst invention that has ever come across this forum.

At the same time, my favorite bot (packet-based autoloot)is also part of Proxy. So i'll miss that..

If they manage to nix the speedhack, that'd be sweet to, but i won't bet the farm on that. It always comes back.

Anyway.. the original idea was for these hax to be in the hands of the few who made them, and those that they deemed worthy of sharing them.

The real REASON (imho) that so many god damn leechern00bs are here looking for the hacks is because everybody else has them.. if everybody else didn't have them, we'd be in the same situation. Even ground. Fair play.

I think the engineers of packet-based hacks on epvp should get together and seriously discuss this.

Some of you may be pissed off at me for saying so, and thats fine.. but this is your chance to keep the hacks that fucked the game up so much out of the hands of the masses: permanently.

I suggest you take them, and run for the hills!

If we really want them that badly, we'll have to learn to make them. After all, that's what you did.

iliveoncaffiene 12/09/2006 00:09

@howaboutno As for fixing the proxy, it will be easy. As far as I know the proxy will login, but with the changes it will most likely have errors.

The errors are the character packet (3ee) and equip packets (Some of the 0x3f1 's). That will take... oh... for a person with a decent knowledge of packets, about 30 minutes, max.
The only reason those were changed was to accompany new additions for slash slots (equip packet) and the addition of the little gem point thing (character packet). The packet changes were NOT intended to bring about the demise of COtobo and QOProxy, but they did indirectly.

howaboutno 12/09/2006 00:25

Lol.. thats so sad.. TQ doesn't even have to try.

Christoph_ 12/09/2006 00:27

The only answer is open source.

iliveoncaffiene 12/09/2006 00:35

Quote:

Originally posted by howaboutno@Dec 9 2006, 00:25
Lol.. thats so sad.. TQ doesn't even have to try.
Yea, with the amount of patches they put out they can ruin Conquer AND the bots at the same time!

howaboutno 12/09/2006 00:51

Mad skillz?

wizerd 12/09/2006 00:53

wtf you talking bout noob how dare u critisise people u was a noob once ppl are not stupid ok so they may not say the appericiate it but they thank the creater buy downloading it so shut up before u make stupid comments closed

xthinhx 12/09/2006 01:17

lol things got quickly out of hand here.....well anywayz back to what tomstone said "there are too many idotic people in this forum", so any long time members here got an idea of wat makes a person not idiotic? I would appreciate some advice so I can improve myself in being a member of epvpers.

brak 12/09/2006 01:19

Quote:

Originally posted by GIZMO0425@Dec 8 2006, 04:49
well every thing about this patch seems rather stupid to me.not only are they going to wipe out all teh bots they are going to make peopel loose game time by hacking the game once again.hacks will never stop and tq ideas will keep coming.i give it one month maybe two and all hacks will be up and running again.my one problim is i am about to get second rb.i will wait now untill i see what all happens after monday.i would not want to be stuck lvling all teh way back up by hand.
You're a fucking loser, go play another game where you don't have to hurt your beautiful soft hands by clicking :rolleyes: Fuck I bet you also use the speed hack and aimbot to kill everyone and then deny it. Think it makes you a great player? You're not fooling anyone, get used to playing at least SOME of the game without having a program doing it ALL for you... asswipe.

dod06 12/09/2006 01:39

Hey everyone :)

I been reading this topic with intrest and I have to say, I agree with things like stop noobs getting it

Although now you're probably thinking that I only have like 6 posts, but I don't tend to have much to say really, (I'm not usually very talkative), I have however read these forums for a while mainly just to read what people have too say,I have only ever downloaded one program from here too.

But as I was saying, I agree with people saying about not letting everybody get programs, I have seen people on here before who ask a stupid question like 'where can I get the best botter to get me to 130' - which usually ends up being their first, and last post, when people help they don't thank them or acknowledge their effort, they seem to have an elergic reaction to the search tool.

So I am now beginning to post and try to understand how these programs work. So don't think I'm not making effort >_>

howaboutno 12/09/2006 01:45

Myself as well.. at the same time, i'd be happy to leave them all behind, so long as the rest of n00bland didn't have access either. Easy ones like multiclient and itemtype/monster.dat I can learn myself. They don't really do much harm.

The game would be more fun if it was played by the majority of the rules.... and if they stopped taking away our PK maps :(

kurogasa 12/09/2006 01:50

i also agree that a lot of ppl l33ch from this site. Also, i have a question... I know that CoToBo is being closed, but is COp and multiclient and everything being closed too? I also wanna know if itemtype.dat will be closed. If a lot IS being closed, plz tell me whats Not being closed, lol.

cdeeznizzies 12/09/2006 01:50

People are always complaining that us noobs dont give anything back to epvpers.com. Well, how are we supposed to do that, we are noobs right? You show me the way to make a new Cotobo ill spend all my time i would normally spend to Co and make one. And btw why else would they make a website like this if they didnt want to share the programs. The people who make the programs arent greedy bastards. All of yall people who say us noobs need to make something. Well, wheres the shit you made? Huh? Nothing or maybe a few or yall have created a new way to automine(keylog) hmmm. When someone comes up with the new cotobo or w/e the name shall be and they post it up here(if they do). All of yall ppl will still be saying the same thing. Yall noobs dont give anything back( as yall leech the new programs) so STFU!!!! Show me how to make a program and i will. Show us noobs wtf to do and we will. So until then fuck off! NOOBS RULE!!!!

Jotac 12/09/2006 02:11

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