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howcow95 09/11/2009 22:02

Any Ideas? (Debugging Cabalmain.exe)
 
Well I managed to get a TwinR to be able to Live Debug Cabalmain.exe I even managed to get the proper asm codes in olly so I load up TwinR to attempt to use it as a bypass to be able to Live Debug but it ends up that TwinR detects my olly and it shuts down! I've already tried to run it sandboxed but it doesn't work.... any other ideas?

oren_studio 09/12/2009 10:53

y dont u run twinr first to bypass, close twinr (make sure the process has been terminated in the task manager), then attach olly to cabalmain?

howcow95 09/12/2009 22:59

will try... and lol it's hard to explain but I don't really have TwinR someone who wants the hack aswell is offering to let me use their's but they don't wana give it to me until they can do the hack themselves so I wusn;t able to fool around and see my options much but ty! I will try this!


edit: dusnt work ... cabal simply closes wen u run olly

ktamer 09/20/2009 19:23

I'm having this same issue. I need a bypass but there isn't one around for NA. So what I tried was running Cabalmain.exe and at the update screen opening Ollydbg. Then I try to attach to cabalmain.exe and select Start Game at the Update Window. I was hoping that the instant Shut down might show in Olly but after analyzing anything Olly freezes and shuts down. I get nowhere I get nothing. Without a proper X-Trap bypass, removing the Flag, or even finding the possible address/value is next to impossible. I've tried using Hideolly and Phantom. Both of which X-Trap can still find instantly...:mad:

howcow95 09/20/2009 21:17

well heres something I can share with you and maybe you can help me back O.O ... if you use StrongOD instead of phantOm (don't use phantOm at all it has to be uninstalled) then you can bypass TwinR's security but the thing is you can't unpack and livedebug cabalmain.exe without using the phantOm .dll sooooooo you must open up cabalmain.exe(using phantOm) dump it, fix it then close olly and take out the phantOm and install StrongOD than you might be able to open the unpacked cabalmain.exe without using phantOm but the thing is I'm having various issues with getting the cabalmain.exe fixed I get it dumped and it's 11701 kb but after that I'm unable to fix it properly using imprec, what happens is that the unpacked and dumped and supposedly fixed cabalmain.exe doesn't run like norm cabalmain... infact it doesnt run at all >.>

zen83 09/21/2009 07:31

This is a file that you uploaded on forum few weeks ago. I've tried to unpack it, i'm not so sure this will work or not since i don't have Cabal NA install on my PC.
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NovaCygni 09/21/2009 09:27

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Originally Posted by ktamer (Post 3066901)
Both of which X-Trap can still find instantly...:mad:

Im gathering you havnt set the correct settings in the Plugins menu for them!
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And a olly folder with plugins and scripts that work with Xtrap :
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howcow95 09/21/2009 13:05

what phantOm are you using .... mine has slightly more options but even with those options ticked it still doesn't work >.> maybe it could be the phantOm i'm using?

Teandormus 09/21/2009 16:26

Im just wondering , what u can get if u unpack cabalmain rufl ? ._. sry for offtop but im interested.

.Law. 09/21/2009 18:50

Use dmg hack,all methods,and alz drop rate hacks.
Use a bug/exploit to never spend CC on Cash Shop items( you need the CC but it wont go down)
Name hack to "[GM]XXXXXX" server sided.
Class hack /with beeing able to buy skills.
More smaller things.

ktamer 09/21/2009 20:54

Everything Nova provided was more than amazing. Unfortunately enough for me I'm still at block one. I try to run Cabal through Cabal Rider. Should I make an attempt to use TwinR. Because the attempts I've made fail because it either wont load or it says there's a corrupt cabal.enc file. I configured PhantOm like Nova suggested. And then also tried what cow suggested. I think I'm stuck with a POS cabalmain.exe. So, might I be lacking in resources? I have relative knowledge, just this X-Trap is a true Hell.

Teandormus 09/21/2009 22:00

O____________O Punk u should try to debug q,q <gimme>

.Law. 09/21/2009 22:16

Pft,If I was able to run the unpacked exe. till' now i would've given you et alrdy nubie >:,still stuck,but there are some new imortant tips , will try again later since im overloaded with school /etc.

howcow95 09/21/2009 22:55

dam punk >.> I know I'm doing something wrong while I'm either unpacking or dumping and I'm pretty sure it has to do with the OEP that I think I found lol... because once it's dumped and supposedly fixed my unpacked.exe doesn't run lawl it tells me that somethings wrong and hacking has been detected or something like that >.>

as for debugging punk... can you debug w/o getting detected?

.Law. 09/21/2009 23:01

Err,cabal EU sux,so I have no problem doing it ;d,and same goes for me,can't run the unpacked file yet.
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You can find another flash-type tut on unpacking an exe,this time that exe is packed with UPX.

howcow95 09/21/2009 23:22

trying ur tut atm but again ... just like you busy w/ school etc etc so this is second priority... ALSO the Sienna Queen patch is scheduled for Euro and NA pretty soon soooooo what if they find another way to make us not able to do this whole unpack bussiness >.> or maybe we''ll just have to redo our work? (if we successfully get it dun by then)

.Law. 09/22/2009 05:43

what'cha dreaming about ? took em months to fix that even though they knew it existed,they probably fell in denial,but I don't think they'll add extra protection to the cabalmain.exe,like Themida etc.

howcow95 09/22/2009 05:56

lol... according to bindie CabalNA is packed with themida >.> ALSO I followed the dekaron thing it works perfectly till I have to fix in imprec ... it doesn't have the right OEP which means that I'm missing something from the step before(after I set the BP at the cabalmain jmp and run it, it doesn't take me anywhere) >.> ... well atleast it's good news to here estsoft is slow !

oren_studio 09/22/2009 11:41

SEA is also packed with Themida, 1.9.9.0 specifically. tried unpacking it but i too end up Themida detecting the exe being debugged; gives some oreans error message. I believe the oep is correct as i tried finding it manually and using scripts, both gives the same oep. I think the problem im facing now is fixing the IAT.

NoobWant2Learn 09/22/2009 14:48

btw, if cabalridre bypasses your security system (xtrap,gg) no need for twinR..
if u already bypass ur security protection theres no reason why cabal detects olly...
asfaik

NovaCygni 09/22/2009 15:41

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Originally Posted by PunkS7yle (Post 3074276)
what'cha dreaming about ? took em months to fix that even though they knew it existed,they probably fell in denial,but I don't think they'll add extra protection to the cabalmain.exe,like Themida etc.

Themida is removable... just takes longer, think I should complile a Ollydbg+Cabal toolkit with all the plugins tools people should need? Im very suprised no-one noticed there where scripts for removing the packers on cabal in the last folder I posted!.

.Law. 09/22/2009 15:57

I never dlded it :P.Will do now,as I said,im overloaded,I usually post from my phone while in classes xD
Never said Themida was un-removable,it just takes more for ppl to remove it by meerely reading guides.
EDIT:Holy shot ,the folder u posted pwns,all in 1 folder >;,epic.

ktamer 09/22/2009 17:40

Nova provided some really great stuff. Just wondering, Nova did you work on Debug of NA Cabal or others? Or maybe all of them? If so, did you ever get errors while using Olly that some Memory Adresses were un-readable? I like the tools you provided, I just wish that it would all come together smoothly. Is there a specific setup I should use to each plugin for it to actually run and not be detected and fail? I've been racking my brain for this accursed .exe. I can attach to other games no problem and run debugger succesfully...I swear once I figure this out, I will dedicate my life to killing X-Trap :bandit:

oren_studio 09/22/2009 20:22

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Originally Posted by NovaCygni (Post 3076282)
Themida is removable... just takes longer, think I should complile a Ollydbg+Cabal toolkit with all the plugins tools people should need? Im very suprised no-one noticed there where scripts for removing the packers on cabal in the last folder I posted!.

tried with all themida script included in your folder, but still couldn't find oep. most script gives oreans internal exception error, some straighaway terminated.

of all the scripts i tried, only one script successfully finished till the end.
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tried the manual way following joker_italy guide on tmd 1.9.1.0 gives the same result as this script (although SEA is packed with 1990, that's why im sceptical whether its real oep).

well, there are still many things i'm going to try, and i'm back to basics. :p

howcow95 09/22/2009 21:44

@ oren that's the only script that works for me as well but when I try to rebuild IAT using imprec using the OEP I found there and subtracting image base .... it doesn't work :S

@punk... that post about dekaron ... Cabalmain seems a little more complex? I'm trying dif things but can't find the correct way to find the proper OEP =(

ktamer 09/23/2009 06:54

Upon further research. Could you use MHS to actually Debug? and Would it also work if you inject a code where the flag is triggered? Or would that still require repetitive procedures after Cabal is closed? I've read MHS can read kernal memory without actually attaching to the process. It's odd, something that should be so simple is made complicated by a simple thing. Unless of course I'm looking in the wrong places. But then I'm just thinking about it too hard. :pimp:

NovaCygni 09/23/2009 10:34

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Originally Posted by howcow95 (Post 3078668)
@ oren that's the only script that works for me as well but when I try to rebuild IAT using imprec using the OEP I found there and subtracting image base .... it doesn't work :S

@punk... that post about dekaron ... Cabalmain seems a little more complex? I'm trying dif things but can't find the correct way to find the proper OEP =(

You need to remove the Protection in the correct order, also if you run the script for say Yoda and it gives a "Maybe its not Yoda" message, you havnt removed the other security...

.Law. 09/23/2009 13:15

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Originally Posted by howcow95 (Post 3078668)
@ oren that's the only script that works for me as well but when I try to rebuild IAT using imprec using the OEP I found there and subtracting image base .... it doesn't work :S

@punk... that post about dekaron ... Cabalmain seems a little more complex? I'm trying dif things but can't find the correct way to find the proper OEP =(

Dekaron.exe is packed with UPX,no dumping protection,that vid only serves the purpose of showing you an example.

oren_studio 09/23/2009 13:42

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Originally Posted by NovaCygni (Post 3080306)
You need to remove the Protection in the correct order, also if you run the script for say Yoda and it gives a "Maybe its not Yoda" message, you havnt removed the other security...

So you're saying that it has other protection other than Themida?

brian86 09/23/2009 15:37

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Originally Posted by NovaCygni (Post 3080306)
You need to remove the Protection in the correct order, also if you run the script for say Yoda and it gives a "Maybe its not Yoda" message, you havnt removed the other security...

what do you mean by removing the protection in order? whats the correct order? im stock in finding the correct OEP.. always failing in IAT part!

howcow95 09/23/2009 21:41

well sure enough I used chimprec in place of imprec and it worked...........................

well... now when i try to open the supposedly fixed dump it gives me

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this also happens when i try to open it in olly

oren_studio 09/24/2009 20:31

i think i did it finally, removed themida completely. ran it normally, and peid didn't detect any protection. so happy!
on to the tracing part next! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! :p:p:p:p

howcow95 09/24/2009 20:34

how!!!!! pm me !!!.... and wait so you can run your unpacked.exe by itself?

oren_studio 09/24/2009 20:39

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Originally Posted by howcow95 (Post 3089041)
how!!!!! pm me !!!.... and wait so you can run your unpacked.exe by itself?

yep :p

howcow95 09/24/2009 21:14

pmed you back :P and also you just used one script?

Teandormus 09/24/2009 21:21

LOL GUYS :D SEND ME UR UNPACKD CABALMAIN O_O

howcow95 09/24/2009 21:24

ill do it if i can find it out AND you mail me cookies

Teandormus 09/24/2009 21:48

lol i will , giimme adress

NovaCygni 09/24/2009 23:58

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Originally Posted by howcow95 (Post 3089227)
pmed you back :P and also you just used one script?

I have scripts for every packer, padder and obfusk'ers in existance ;) between raping Cabal and being the first botter on DragonSky it saves alot of time ;) :mofo: Id happilly make a full ollydbg Toolkit for epvpers with the relative scripts/plugins for Cabal but I lack so much in motivation..... Im sure -Chrome- knows what Im referring to, SALOMON and Lowyfre need a firm kick in the asses! (* Ill save u another wall of text chrome about how they happilly Leeched my work and help before then allowed those insults because I removed my work from epvpers -.- *)

howcow95 09/25/2009 00:07

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Originally Posted by NovaCygni (Post 3090047)
I have scripts for every packer, padder and obfusk'ers in existance ;) between raping Cabal and being the first botter on DragonSky it saves alot of time ;) :mofo: Id happilly make a full ollydbg Toolkit for epvpers with the relative scripts/plugins for Cabal but I lack so much in motivation..... Im sure -Chrome- knows what Im referring to, SALOMON and Lowyfre need a firm kick in the asses! (* Ill save u another wall of text chrome about how they happilly Leeched my work and help before then allowed those insults because I removed my work from epvpers -.- *)

PM's work O.O hehe and as for motivation your helping mankind!!!

P.S I'll give you some of the cookies that Vegi is gunna send me

but yea hopefully oren could point me in the right direction I've spent a while just trying many dif combinations and retsarting my comp soooooooo many times over and over and over


Btw is there a way to edit upgrade success through cabalmain.exe aswell? I am absolutely hating my upgrading luck atm >.>


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