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tiger619 09/13/2013 14:08

Warning for pixel bots ??
 
Hi Everyone,

As stated in the forum announcement, the diminishing returns element of the bonus boxes has been effectively removed.

What does effectively removed mean?

In the simplest terms, it means that it has not been completely removed. The balancing of the diminishing returns has been scaled down so that to be affected a player would have to collect bonus boxes non stop (a collection every few seconds - without any break whatsoever) for hours.

Why did we not completely remove the diminishing returns?

The truth is because of pixel bots. We are working on a technical solution to the pixel bots, but until that is released we have to keep a very low balanced diminishing returns in order to minimize the gain of using pixel bots.

It is my belief that a regular player will never be affected by this diminishing returns, as they really would have to collect for hours non-stop - really with no pause at all. This is incredibly unlikely for a human to be able to do.

Best,

RickDekard


am for pixel bots producers i hope that u watch out for this :) best luck

sander2828 09/13/2013 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger619 (Post 24930251)
Hi Everyone,

As stated in the forum announcement, the diminishing returns element of the bonus boxes has been effectively removed.

What does effectively removed mean?

In the simplest terms, it means that it has not been completely removed. The balancing of the diminishing returns has been scaled down so that to be affected a player would have to collect bonus boxes non stop (a collection every few seconds - without any break whatsoever) for hours.

Why did we not completely remove the diminishing returns?

The truth is because of pixel bots. We are working on a technical solution to the pixel bots, but until that is released we have to keep a very low balanced diminishing returns in order to minimize the gain of using pixel bots.

It is my belief that a regular player will never be affected by this diminishing returns, as they really would have to collect for hours non-stop - really with no pause at all. This is incredibly unlikely for a human to be able to do.

Best,

RickDekard


am for pixel bots producers i hope that u watch out for this :) best luck

i wonder what solution they think out make darkorbit 100% in color 000000?

and well no problem about boting hours in row my bot can rest :)

iontzel222 09/13/2013 14:58

if they change boxes color every 2-3 days? the bot creators will need time to update them

fuso98 09/13/2013 15:23

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Originally Posted by iontzel222 (Post 24931069)
if they change boxes color every 2-3 days? the bot creators will need time to update them

You relly think that? I can read my pixel from a txt/ini files and download it every time that user open bot from my web space. So no bot need to be downloaded again.

iontzel222 09/13/2013 15:44

well can someone say what does the diminishing means? at 5 am bot stop at 11pm i start it then now at 4:44 i get from boxes only laser ammo and 20 uridium and credits

Madatek 09/13/2013 15:45

OK, surely they started watching elitepvpers :)

melikhan 09/13/2013 16:47

Palladium ftw!

Mario29 09/13/2013 19:02

DO will be a good game again like some years ago........... :)

K4nec322 09/14/2013 00:08

with damage 200k+ i dont think so

skeith_sk8 09/14/2013 10:41

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Originally Posted by jakubbeno (Post 24939424)
with damage 200k+ i dont think so

I watch 300+ .....

melikhan 09/14/2013 11:43

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Originally Posted by skeith_sk8 (Post 24942816)
I watch 300+ .....

Are you sure? 30k hit with x1?

SpecialDestiny 09/14/2013 12:21

@RickDekard If you read this: I hope...

You and the complete Darkorbit Team eliminate the bots, Forever.
This is not Darkorbot, its Darkorbit!


Thank you that want to make their game better now...

mitko9966 09/14/2013 12:35

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Originally Posted by melikhan (Post 24943601)
Are you sure? 30k hit with x1?

Mate, the damage is combined: x4 + x5 + Hellstorm + Rocket, and eventually the PET's DMG. :)

melikhan 09/14/2013 12:49

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Originally Posted by mitko9966 (Post 24944443)
Mate, the damage is combined: x4 + x5 + Hellstorm + Rocket, and eventually the PET's DMG. :)

x5= x6* ;)
Btw, max hit with x4+rsb is 240k or something like that, that's what I know so far :D
I don't think the pet/rockets will support that damage to 300k..

lockstockctrl 09/14/2013 12:57

tbh.. bigpoint cant do a fucking thing against pixel bots.. because its a imitation of the keyboard and mouse.. the only way they'd be able to find out if it wasnt you doing the work would be to install cctv in the room the computers in... or to access webcam whilst pixel bot is on.. SO HAHAHA.. FUCK YOU BIGPOINT... YOU ARE NOT STOPPING PIXEL BOTS!!!!!!!!

Iron_Man/1/ 09/14/2013 12:59

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Originally Posted by lockstockctrl (Post 24944852)
tbh.. bigpoint cant do a fucking thing against pixel bots.. because its a imitation of the keyboard and mouse.. the only way they'd be able to find out if it wasnt you doing the work would be to install cctv in the room the computers in... or to access webcam whilst pixel bot is on.. SO HAHAHA.. FUCK YOU BIGPOINT... YOU ARE NOT STOPPING PIXEL BOTS!!!!!!!!

hahha are you always so clever or just now? if bigpoint manage to change their pixels with a program every 2 seconds as i spoke to an admin only people who know the new way can survive.. and i already received the new files of pixels that are gonna change with time :)
PS: i will give the files to the pixel bot creators like fuso and palavia if they implement the new system!

Dr.Toni 09/14/2013 13:09

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Originally Posted by lockstockctrl (Post 24944852)
tbh.. bigpoint cant do a fucking thing against pixel bots.. because its a imitation of the keyboard and mouse.. the only way they'd be able to find out if it wasnt you doing the work would be to install cctv in the room the computers in... or to access webcam whilst pixel bot is on.. SO HAHAHA.. FUCK YOU BIGPOINT... YOU ARE NOT STOPPING PIXEL BOTS!!!!!!!!

You are my hero :handsdown:

btw...

You don't know what you are talking about right?
The pixel colour is the same since the start of DO but what if they change a few times every day... Most of the Pixelbots are fucked.

Iron_Man/1/ 09/14/2013 13:11

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Originally Posted by Dг.Tσпi™ (Post 24945054)
You are my hero :handsdown:

btw...

You don't know what you are talking about right?
The pixel colour is the same since the start of DO but what if they change a few times every day... Most of the Pixelbots are fucked.

i know my friend what i am talking about..these days they create 100s of sequences in order to stop pixel bots working.. but i received them from an admin friend which is in bigpoint and is leaking data out for me :)

Dr.Toni 09/14/2013 13:14

You can't read or where ist the problem?

I didn't answer your post! I answer to lockstockctrl !

Yeah your Admin Friend...

Heiko Hubertz is my Friend too... Seems legit :rolleyes:

lockstockctrl 09/14/2013 13:24

tbh.. im just having a opinion.. i dont know much.. sorry im not as CLEVER as your retarded self to point out that i was wrong about what i said.. go play doctors and nurses with ya sister dr toni.. and really.. do i have to be so clever to know how to make a pixel bot.. as if you guys made it entirely from scratch!!!??

Edit: you even have a link in your sig to make pixel bot.. @ Dr loni

sk8ter249 09/14/2013 13:25

I highly believe the bot developers/pixel bot should stop trying :/. Like dont get me wrong or take this insulting, but i think that if there are no more bots in the game, then ittle be fun again, boxes will return to the full ORIGINAL state and players will make more from them off their playtime then what the boxes give now with a bot. Please dont take this insulting, im just suggesting an idea

Mario29 09/14/2013 13:27

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Originally Posted by sk8ter249 (Post 24945321)
I highly believe the bot developers/pixel bot should stop trying :/. Like dont get me wrong or take this insulting, but i think that if there are no more bots in the game, then ittle be fun again, boxes will return to the full ORIGINAL state and players will make more from them off their playtime then what the boxes give now with a bot. Please dont take this insulting, im just suggesting an idea

He is right :o

Dr.Toni 09/14/2013 13:29

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Originally Posted by lockstockctrl (Post 24945298)
tbh.. im just having a opinion.. i dont know much.. sorry im not as CLEVER as your retarded self to point out that i was wrong about what i said.. go play doctors and nurses with ya sister dr toni.. and really.. do i have to be so clever to know how to make a pixel bot.. as if you guys made it entirely from scratch!!!??

Edit: you even have a link in your sig to make pixel bot.. @ Dr loni

Sorry but I haven't a sister and now we see who's the retard :rolleyes:

If you aren't so clever... why the hell you post here? If you don't know something about it than don't post!

If you don't know how to do it than stop talking about things like BP can't stop them.

I have the link in my Sig and now? At the moment it's usefull because the pixel colours didn't change... But what the hell has it to do with that what we are talking about?

lockstockctrl 09/14/2013 13:31

TBH i dont give a fuck lmao.. to be so up tight with a comment i made on a forum makes you a retard hahahaha DO 1

iontzel222 09/14/2013 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by sk8ter249 (Post 24945321)
I highly believe the bot developers/pixel bot should stop trying :/. Like dont get me wrong or take this insulting, but i think that if there are no more bots in the game, then ittle be fun again, boxes will return to the full ORIGINAL state and players will make more from them off their playtime then what the boxes give now with a bot. Please dont take this insulting, im just suggesting an idea

why stop the development of a pixelbot ? if tommorw they add another drone with 4 slots lets say and lf5 and bo-3 shiels tell me wouldnt you want a chance to get some what will you do play non stop ?

lockstockctrl 09/14/2013 13:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dг.Tσпi™ (Post 24945484)
You are stupid right?

Please stop posting now and think about these things which you said.

Please stop spamming this thread.. reported..

jlhaehl 09/14/2013 13:38

I hope this place doesnt fill with trolls. This statement is nondirective and you will know wether it applies to you or not. If you want to debate bullshit take it in pm so the rest of the community doesnt see this shit I mean what do you think this is facebook or sometihing. At times I see posts where my 2 or 4 year old could compose their selves more maturely

bestbots_support 09/14/2013 13:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dг.Tσпi™ (Post 24945054)
You are my hero :handsdown:

btw...

You don't know what you are talking about right?
The pixel colour is the same since the start of DO but what if they change a few times every day... Most of the Pixelbots are fucked.

lol.. how can be fuc*ed when a pixel developer only needs to change a new color (or we if the images are on our hands :))))) )

:))))))))))))

Iron_Man/1/ 09/14/2013 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestbots_support (Post 24945671)
lol.. how can be fuc*ed when a pixel developer only needs to change a new color (or we if the images are on our hands :))))) )

:))))))))))))

i agree with you but what if the developer needs to change every minute the colour? what will happen? the bot will work for 2 minutes and then it will want another update.. so only the people that have the new sequences of colour change can survive :)

Dr.Toni 09/14/2013 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestbots_support (Post 24945671)
lol.. how can be fuc*ed when a pixel developer only needs to change a new color (or we if the images are on our hands :))))) )

:))))))))))))

If they change it 2 times a day of course.. They will survive... But with the right System they can change it every minutes or seconds... Whats going on than? :)

bestbots_support 09/14/2013 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dг.Tσпi™ (Post 24945765)
If they change it 2 times a day of course.. They will survive... But with the right System they can change it every minutes or seconds... Whats going on than? :)

With the right system you say we will see every seconds new color for boxes.. nice game we will play !!!

A developer can easily make the bot to use more pictures for a single function, example for boxes.. so either we have color x, or color y .. the bot will collect.. also to can any person change the image by make a printscreen and cut the image..

skeith_sk8 09/15/2013 00:16

I think that they can put capchas.... for pixel bots is a good method of detection

iontzel222 09/15/2013 00:38

ok okay give them ideas this is the best topic for a admin to look at make they`re work easyer

Dr.Toni 09/15/2013 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestbots_support (Post 24948506)
With the right system you say we will see every seconds new color for boxes.. nice game we will play !!!

A developer can easily make the bot to use more pictures for a single function, example for boxes.. so either we have color x, or color y .. the bot will collect.. also to can any person change the image by make a printscreen and cut the image..

The colours can be just changed a bit... Means that you don't see it but the bot won't work...

Yeah It's easy to use more colours but what if they would use it random? You have to find out ALL colours and add them to your bot... The bot would be very slow and and and...

Bone-marrow 09/15/2013 01:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dг.Tσпi™ (Post 24957999)
The colours can be just changed a bit... Means that you don't see it but the bot won't work...

Yeah It's easy to use more colours but what if they would use it random? You have to find out ALL colours and add them to your bot... The bot would be very slow and and and...

You can simply program your bot to include color/shade variation when using pixel search.

Dr.Toni 09/15/2013 01:10

I know my friend :)

But like I said it would make the bot much slower...

Bone-marrow 09/15/2013 01:18

Yeah, I guess it would, especially if they change the color altogether. Another thing they could change is disabling the option of low quality on resources and boxes, making it harder to pixelsearch.


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