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Geezmo 06/07/2013 17:50

Coins the biggest crappy system out !
 
We all know that old servers , before new files released in 2011 , hadn't that coin system which ppl are able to obtain different items/weapons/silk items/etc.

And to say honestly it was more fun and the gameplay was so smooth and good dam* awesome . Now all servers have that system , all of them are crappy , no wonder that the servers are empty .

What you think about coin system ? It's coin system a shi* implemented in sro ? It's necessary in sro scene ? What about weeks/months of grinding to take a sun drop ? How cool it was than ? If you'll make a server you'll add coin system or you're gonna remove it ?

You're free to discuss,share opinions,ask question.

Geezmo:handsdown:

2blackeyes 06/07/2013 17:56

i personaly dont like it ..and one if the reason is that only wizzy go to temple and kill the uniques .. it kind of makes it unfair for the other chinese and str charrs

Geezmo 06/07/2013 18:13

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Originally Posted by 2blackeyes (Post 23135532)
i personaly dont like it ..and one if the reason is that only wizzy go to temple and kill the uniques .. it kind of makes it unfair for the other chinese and str charrs

yea that's a fact and one of first reasons that makes that system sux.

PortalDark 06/07/2013 18:18

imo, coin system could be improved as the current is boring

S0nek1337 06/07/2013 19:04

Yea the coin system suck hard ballz. A normal end set is much better or a 0,0000000001 % chance for sun !

Qynchou 06/07/2013 19:13

"old times". No, not really, its just the community was gathered in 1 spot.

S0nek1337 06/07/2013 19:17

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Originally Posted by Qynchou (Post 23136898)
"old times". No, not really, its just the community was gathered in 1 spot.

Thats true and only Joymax or a other company which get SRO files on the legal way and start a server can bring the "old times" back.

Bartic 06/07/2013 19:21

I liked the coin system of old Salvation. Obtainable through BA and unique hunting (wizards didn't have the advantage over other build because team work was required to kill them).
I don't know about other servers, didn't really play a lot of them.

MadMyra 06/07/2013 19:43

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Originally Posted by S0nek1337 (Post 23136979)
Thats true and only Joymax or a other company which get SRO files on the legal way and start a server can bring the "old times" back.

Not true. If this kids weren´t so childish and keep editing the server we´d have OLD times back. There´re old files free. So np to get an old server. With the epic log in movie and else.

S0nek1337 06/07/2013 19:54

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Originally Posted by MadMyra (Post 23137473)
Not true. If this kids weren´t so childish and keep editing the server we´d have OLD times back. There´re old files free. So np to get an old server. With the epic log in movie and else.

Thats the problem too because everybody think if they open a 60-100 cap server than it's a old school one ... lol NO ! To keep it " old school" you have to :
- leave the pk2 100% unedited (who cares about the shity pictures with the current server name, custom names, special glows, other interface color, recolored items or w/e pff...)
- no custom stuff (more stuff, more bugs, more problems)
- no coin system (after you get ur stupid coin set you reach the max, if you farm sun with a 0,000001% rate, you are not done even after 6 weeks)
- just normal sro where you need to farm items, elixirs, gold and stones.

You can improve the gameplay with the perfect rates and bring every some weeks new cap.

But till now only ppl tried it which can't host succesfuly a server, sad story bro :(

qwerty49 06/07/2013 19:57

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Originally Posted by MadMyra (Post 23137473)
Not true. If this kids weren´t so childish and keep editing the server we´d have OLD times back. There´re old files free. So np to get an old server. With the epic log in movie and else.

So you say that some1 just start 80 cap old school server. Profit. I've said this over 9000 times, that there are/have been tons of "old school" servers, none of them succeeded.

On topic. Coins system is ok, but there should be enough different ways to get them. Ba, ctf, job cave, uniques, events, quests and so on.

Geezmo 06/07/2013 20:17

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Originally Posted by S0nek1337 (Post 23137714)
Thats the problem too because everybody think if they open a 60-100 cap server than it's a old school one ... lol NO ! To keep it " old school" you have to :
- leave the pk2 100% unedited (who cares about the shity pictures with the current server name, custom names, special glows, other interface color, recolored items or w/e pff...)
- no custom stuff (more stuff, more bugs, more problems)
- no coin system (after you get ur stupid coin set you reach the max, if you farm sun with a 0,000001% rate, you are not done even after 6 weeks)
- just normal sro where you need to farm items, elixirs, gold and stones.

You can improve the gameplay with the perfect rates and bring every some weeks new cap.

But till now only ppl tried it which can't host succesfuly a server, sad story bro :(

that's what i talk about , old school meaning its pure , no edit at all and ofc no coins obtainable.

MadMyra 06/07/2013 20:49

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Originally Posted by S0nek1337 (Post 23137714)
Thats the problem too because everybody think if they open a 60-100 cap server than it's a old school one ... lol NO ! To keep it " old school" you have to :
- leave the pk2 100% unedited (who cares about the shity pictures with the current server name, custom names, special glows, other interface color, recolored items or w/e pff...)
- no custom stuff (more stuff, more bugs, more problems)
- no coin system (after you get ur stupid coin set you reach the max, if you farm sun with a 0,000001% rate, you are not done even after 6 weeks)
- just normal sro where you need to farm items, elixirs, gold and stones.

You can improve the gameplay with the perfect rates and bring every some weeks new cap.

But till now only ppl tried it which can't host succesfuly a server, sad story bro :(

If you wait 3 years, when I finished my IT training, I`ll make the best server you´ve never seen before.

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Originally Posted by qwerty49 (Post 23137767)
So you say that some1 just start 80 cap old school server. Profit. I've said this over 9000 times, that there are/have been tons of "old school" servers, none of them succeeded.

That´s a lie. Didn´t ECSRO, ZSZC and SJSRO be successfully??

S0nek1337 06/07/2013 20:56

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Originally Posted by MadMyra (Post 23138819)
If you wait 3 years, when I finished my IT training, I`ll make the best server you´ve never seen before.

The creating that kind of a server is much easier than a full overedit shit. You just need fix the empty pk2 lines because the orginal pk2 of vSRO have some empty lines etc., remove the higher lvl stuff than the current cap from media. Thats all you dont need to make any bigger edits. And than just update every some months the cap.

And the problem with the old files are that they are bugged and there is no bot for them !

MadMyra 06/07/2013 20:59

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Originally Posted by S0nek1337 (Post 23138947)
The creating that kind of a server is much easier than a full overedit shit. You just need fix the empty pk2 lines because the orginal pk2 of vSRO have some empty lines etc., remove the higher lvl stuff than the current cap from media. Thats all you dont need to make any bigger edits. And than just update every some months the cap.

And the problem with the old files are that they are bugged and there is no bot for them !

I don´t want to edit something...But atm I have no time to make anything...I´ve to wait untill I´ve got my training finished. Then I can get a host, a free one from a mate etc. DDoS protection and else. The right time brings the right things. :-)

qwerty49 06/07/2013 21:20

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Originally Posted by MadMyra (Post 23138819)
That´s a lie. Didn´t ECSRO, ZSZC and SJSRO be successfully??

Yes, but only because of no competition. If you know math, this is easy.
Situation A:We have 20k players and 10 servers. Every server have 2k players.
Situation B: Same amount of players (20k) and 100 servers. Now every server have 200 players.
Numbers are just taken from my mind. This is just so you could understand why Ecsro, zscz... were succesful.

Qynchou 06/07/2013 21:22

Why are you all so dumb regarding this oldschool thing? Its been done numerous times before, theres TONS of servers with 0 edits and yet nobody joins them.

Geezmo 06/07/2013 21:28

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Originally Posted by Qynchou (Post 23139444)
Why are you all so dumb regarding this oldschool thing? Its been done numerous times before, theres TONS of servers with 0 edits and yet nobody joins them.

tell me 1 Sir .

Lolill0 06/07/2013 21:33

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Originally Posted by Geezmo (Post 23139616)
tell me 1 Sir .

There's none because they died :awesome:

MadMyra 06/07/2013 21:56

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Originally Posted by Lolill0 (Post 23139746)
There's none because they died :awesome:

There weren´t any servers after ecsro/zszc/sjsro.

Geezmo 06/07/2013 22:00

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Originally Posted by Lolill0 (Post 23139746)
There's none because they died :awesome:

ofc they died...old players( i mean the ones born in 80' and 90' until 94 grow's up ) and they leaved sro cuz of life and beeing a human, now only new generation left kids with ages 10-15 playing sro and made srv with full edits and bullshi*ts cuz they don't know what sro mean, they ain't lived the era of old times with low rates and fully awesome community , they changed sro completly , once the joymax update to 110 cap and 2011 arrive , sro totally blows up .

Lolill0 06/07/2013 22:02

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Originally Posted by MadMyra (Post 23140184)
There weren´t any servers after ecsro/zszc/sjsro.

Diamond, Bloody and Dreamworld were non-edited and yes, there were several non-edited Server but they just disappeared or they just had 20-30 Players at all.

If you're talking about Oldschool Servers (Which are shitty since they even die faster lol) then you're right.

MadMyra 06/07/2013 22:04

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Originally Posted by Lolill0 (Post 23140288)
Diamond, Bloody and Dreamworld were non-edited and yes, there were several non-edited Server but they just disappeared or they just had 20-30 Players at all.

Seems legit, I didn´t even know them. :D Tho, never been active in epvper forum or anywhere...First time I saw this forum was in 2007..First time I registered were in 2010 lol...

Lolill0 06/07/2013 22:05

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Originally Posted by MadMyra (Post 23140317)
Seems legit, I didn´t even know them. :D Tho, never been active in epvper forum or anywhere...First time I saw this forum was in 2007..First time I registered were in 2010 lol...

They were based on vSRO Files but ya, take a look above again, if you meant Oldschool Servers after ECSRO/SJSRO/SWSRO died, then you're right, there were no Oldschool Servers before the vSRO Files release.

MadMyra 06/07/2013 22:25

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Originally Posted by Lolill0 (Post 23140344)
They were based on vSRO Files but ya, take a look above again, if you meant Oldschool Servers after ECSRO/SJSRO/SWSRO died, then you're right, there were no Oldschool Servers before the vSRO Files release.

That´s why Silkroad is now such a fail. There are no old files based servers + retarded edits which are only made for kids. Idk. But it seems like those server are made for 10-14 y/o kids. Not for guys like me... Barney, dunno if it was the right name, said once "OLD IS ALWAYS BETTER" .... Today it just seems to be "CHILDISH IS ALWAYS BETTER"...I just wish once that ecsro/zszc or even sjsro admins would open the server again under a new name...Would be so fcking awesome!!

Haxor 06/07/2013 22:30

I dont like the current coin systems at all ^^
but maybe this system can be improved to gain coins in better ways..

elfuria 06/07/2013 22:35

i like the idea of coin system but i don't 'like camping out uniques. i hate camping uniques.

Lolill0 06/07/2013 22:54

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Originally Posted by MadMyra (Post 23140689)
That´s why Silkroad is now such a fail. There are no old files based servers + retarded edits which are only made for kids. Idk. But it seems like those server are made for 10-14 y/o kids. Not for guys like me... Barney, dunno if it was the right name, said once "OLD IS ALWAYS BETTER" .... Today it just seems to be "CHILDISH IS ALWAYS BETTER"...I just wish once that ecsro/zszc or even sjsro admins would open the server again under a new name...Would be so fcking awesome!!

Some Systems are pretty useful (Speaking of Synx7 trigger Feature), though I must agree some are just Retarded like the "Farm Items and create a OP Sun Weapon via Alchemy" System...

Those Systems do fail because they break the Game and they have nothing to do with the Triangular Conflict (If someone asks me what this Term means, you better get out of here ... a lot of Players do not know what this Term even means -.-***)

PortalDark 06/07/2013 22:59

idk, awarding the coins via another method could be better
like making it more interactive
Example: receive 1 coin x star in trades
that way you are encouraging both the coin and the trade system, which, imo, no one does an, imo again, it is pretty cool

clericakar 06/07/2013 23:02

Coin system = +20 hour waste your time for 1 weapon
If you dont have coin system you will play the game 100hour
If you have coin system you will play 122 hour
20 hour collect coin
1 hour plus
1 hour PvP and delete game..

Kape7 06/07/2013 23:56

The problem are not the coins, but the un-imaginative ways server owners have to give them. Always as unique drops. There are more fun ways to obtain them.

PortalDark 06/08/2013 00:09

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Originally Posted by Synx7 (Post 23142391)
The problem are not the coins, but the un-imaginative ways server owners have to give them. Always as unique drops. There are more fun ways to obtain them.

it could be cool to add to more than 1 way, for example, the unique, trade runs, fortress war, FGW, quests, anything that gives you the enjoyment of getting rather than camping hours for 1 unique

PowerPointt 06/08/2013 00:40

well Getting JC By Killing players in job mode is the best to be honest

Haxor 06/08/2013 01:12

^
yup its so cool to get them in job kills
too cool to get them from activity stuff(like pvp? ,being online but not botting)..
too boring to get from unique kills

Kape7 06/08/2013 01:30

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Originally Posted by ™Haxor™ (Post 23143489)
^
yup its so cool to get them in job kills
too cool to get them from activity stuff(like pvp? ,being online but not botting)..
too boring to get from unique kills

Yeah it is really cool, but sooooo easily to abuse.

Qynchou 06/08/2013 01:45

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Originally Posted by Synx7 (Post 23143637)
Yeah it is really cool, but sooooo easily to abuse.

Level requirement, kill restriction on the same person a day, job penalty enabled.

elfuria 06/08/2013 03:54

Ludowork's "Battle coins" was doing a pretty good job at minimizing abuse, although it was buggy at times

鳳凰城 06/08/2013 04:22

They just can not manage it as well. :)

Geezmo 06/08/2013 07:35

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Originally Posted by Phoenix 1337 (Post 23144416)
They just can not manage it as well. :)

+1 managing a srv with coins system and others to the perfect point could be difficult for some ppl , at least for all kids around here which are opening 130 cap srv based on coins from uniqs or battle arena , let's be serious...it should be a restriction for opening a srv if ur under 18+ at least .

MadMyra 06/08/2013 09:41

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Originally Posted by Geezmo (Post 23144801)
+1 managing a srv with coins system and others to the perfect point could be difficult for some ppl , at least for all kids around here which are opening 130 cap srv based on coins from uniqs or battle arena , let's be serious...it should be a restriction for opening a srv if ur under 18+ at least .

You can´t be sure they´re 18+ or not..There´s no way to get the age verified.

Even if you get something like a passport or else..


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