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Svinseladden 01/12/2012 14:12

Sorry all. Thinking about leaving Elite!
 
I have loved it here. and i kind of still do. But the everything about apollyon (and every other hackers) is getting deleted.

we have protect your servers and how to in many posts, But when ppl try to talk about the biggest one of them all DDoS. it's getting removed.

This looks like DONT tell ppl that if they get a good server running they will go down anyway.

Priv servers all over the place goes down or pays a guy that uses internet terror to get money for him self.

Players that are here too get new updates all the time about the online servers. That help running the terror and let ppl pay the price for it.

and they are new or paying a ddos guy for "protection"

save them in here, but talk about the man him self and be open about what's going on out there. no don't do that.

I mean what the hell ppl?

me for one have the urges to get servers i KNOW paying him go down.. NO i'm no hacker, but well everyone can tell hosts that one of the servers they have is running a game that's not legal.

Why not? they a paying another guy to do it to many others.

Just saying..

Many payed this guy to bring down other servers. why can't we just give a litle payback?

All i did was bring the server home and provoked him to attack so the cops got a hold of what's going on out there. yes mabe we go down with it. but i never ever pay ppl to use terror on other ppl.

We been up 48 hours soon after this. if his gone or not i'm not sure. but cops already have him and my line under there system.

if the god him self got scared of that, i feel sorry for him and his big mouth.

sorry just a litle pissed at servers paying for a protection. look's like mafia just moved to the internet.

regards from:
The Real
GoD
GMConus/GMPoint
Mastershaiya/Myth of shaiya
PS: still online btw

BTW got this same day he said he would attack me:

BTW: this is a old Host we hade. and is it aeria or is it apollyon?

My guess is the looser


Dear Client,

Server ID : CL-T179-211CN - 174.142.90.56

This is a Policy Enforcement Notice that your account has violated our Acceptable Use Policy.
Please take immediate remedial actions to avoid the disconnection of your server from our network.

Our Acceptable Use Policy is available here :
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Please refer to the attached complaints and/or logs of abuse. If you believe we have traced this issue to you erroneously, our staff will investigate the issue further. All domains, users, and content responsible for causing this abuse must be removed from the server and any misconfigured, infected, or unauthorized use of software should be investigated.

Do take note that as a reseller, you are responsible for making sure your customers respect our acceptable usage policy. Not enforcing our terms to your customers may lead to suspension or cancellation of your services.

Pending your reply with your comments, questions, or actions to resolve this issue and clear your server from our abuse department, we:

[X] Are MONITORING your services
[ ] Will disconnect your services in 48-Hours [ ] Will disconnect your services in 24-Hours [ ] Will disconnect your services in 1-Hour [X] Will disconnect your services unless you resolve the issue.
[ ] Have DISCONNECTED your services
[ ] Have DISCONNECTED and are CANCELLING your services [ ] Have DISCONNECTED your services pending RELOAD REQUEST

For the following reason(s) :
[X] Intellectual Property - Copyrights or Trademarks Violations [X] Network Security - Hostile Network Activities [ ] Illegal pornography - Pedophilia, bestiality, violence, etc.
[ ] Fraud - ID Theft, Fraud site, phishing, etc.
[ ] Phishing - Identity Theft Under False Pretense [ ] Malware - Viruses, trojan horses, spyware, rootkits, etc.
[ ] SPAM EMAIL - Unsolicited Commercial Email or Unsolicited Bulk Email [ ] SPAM LIST - Providing Email Addresses for SPAM purposes.
[ ] SPAM PROXY - Distributing Spam through a Proxy [ ] SPAM REFERER - Providing Fake Referer Information to Weblogs [ ] SPAM RELAY - Hosting a Mail Server Configured as an Open Relay [ ] SPAM SITE - Hosting a Site Advertised via Email or Weblog Spam [ ] SPAM WARE - Providing Software for Unsolicited Commercial Email [ ] Others:


We received several complaints regarding DDOS with your IP range as target, it affected other clients too. And we received complaints about you running an illegal copy of a game server. We received the following copyright infringement notice.
Please remove the copyrigthed content asap.

We are informing you of a copyright infringement for the Aeriagames'
platform game Shaiya. We believe the game is being hosted on the following
ips:
174.142.90.56
174.142.92.97
174.142.92.98
174.142.92.99
174.142.92.100
174.142.92.101
174.142.92.102
AeriaGames owns full rights to the Shaiya game and the ips/servers in question should be shutdown immediately.


If you have any questions concerning this matter, do not hesitate to call us or to reply to this email.

Thank you for your cooperation,

iWeb Technologies Inc. Abuse Team

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aragonik 01/12/2012 16:38

I fucking love you :3 finnaly .. you sir are 100% right! We have to do something about it, Im an ex- Dll/Rat/Batch/virus coder and if some devs are planning on making or are making discussing about something to stop this cunt, then i would be GLAD to help.

[DEV]xXDASHXx 01/13/2012 03:17

Quote:

AeriaGames owns full rights to the Shaiya game
its my understanding that CHOIE ROCK formerly knowned as Sonov owns all rights to the shaiya game area is just a LEGAL distributer of it. and copy righte infringements from my knowladge is to SELL copyrighted material witch ya you give sertaint items to players for cash but we DONATE there is a HUGE difrence in donateions and selling but im not getting into all the legalizations of the mater lol. just pointing out one mager ishu in the statement i see witch is area dosenot own shaiya choie rock games dose. and on the matter of the ddos attacks yes as a fellow epvp'er i would love to read any and ALL knowladge in regyards to the attacks and posabel suspects things to that natcher so POST AWAY and lets see how long they last.. 5 servers get attacked it is basic here say this guy is attacking people MANY get attacked with proper proof it is way easyer to protect your self from said indavidual... but i do stress if no PROOF dont spam it post it flair up show us all proof in the matter so we can ALL conteract.. many privet server owners have knowladge of many things that can be used in the ade of protection or hault of attacks if we are abel to see read and wright what we know.. lets post the knowladge and make it public dont hold back and by all means any and all epvp admins mods and so on dont just deleat the posts in fear of what it will turn into let the voices be heard.

Svinseladden 01/13/2012 08:19

Quote:

its my understanding that CHOIE ROCK formerly knowned as Sonov owns all rights to the shaiya game area is just a LEGAL distributer of it
thanks.. forgot that . this is why i said it's the hacker that send this around and not aeria..was kind of a big point:-)

elco2100 01/13/2012 08:41

Maybe this hacker is the maker of this private server and dont wont to see it public.

trasholo 01/13/2012 17:12

It's full of shit behind this attack.

Zephyr1530 01/13/2012 19:54

Don't you think it is getting deleted for a reason, it isn't Epvpers fault, but it isn't the private servers fault for not being 'protected' either. People shouldn't give in to a blackmailers hands but then again from the perspective of Epvpers, it only causes more arguments and hate.
DDoSers don't give a flying rats ass who they hurt, and yeah that makes it wrong, but then again is all the hard work that some servers do worth it? I personally believe a lot of admins these days don't deserve servers, but for the ones that do, it is a very hard, tiring and stressful situation to be in.
Don't blame only Apollyon for this, he seems to have started off a trend, there is a new one going around now, and it wouldn't surprise me if new ones come out later down the line. A lot of people trying to take down your server will often do this, hoping it will take down your website and/or get you into trouble.
At the end of the day there is really no reason for anyone to be doing this for no reason.

Svinseladden 01/13/2012 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephyr1530 (Post 14785317)
Don't you think it is getting deleted for a reason, it isn't Epvpers fault, but it isn't the private servers fault for not being 'protected' either. People shouldn't give in to a blackmailers hands but then again from the perspective of Epvpers, it only causes more arguments and hate.
DDoSers don't give a flying rats ass who they hurt, and yeah that makes it wrong, but then again is all the hard work that some servers do worth it? I personally believe a lot of admins these days don't deserve servers, but for the ones that do, it is a very hard, tiring and stressful situation to be in.
Don't blame only Apollyon for this, he seems to have started off a trend, there is a new one going around now, and it wouldn't surprise me if new ones come out later down the line. A lot of people trying to take down your server will often do this, hoping it will take down your website and/or get you into trouble.
At the end of the day there is really no reason for anyone to be doing this for no reason.


i'm just pissed of at elite that every time we try and talk about this, they remove it. i'm not pissed at them in any other way..

but to be protected like many other Thread's out there this one might be important too..

or have a thread about the attacks anyway..

Btw it's Apollyon, the one's that pay him that started this, this is why i blame them. the servers that pay Apollyon deserve the next round of attackers. they need to know what they started. or that's my opinion..

but this is the first post about him that havent stoped so now i'm kind of happy..

just angry at my self for putting the name and not have the Apollyon in the thread topic LOL

Zephyr1530 01/13/2012 20:14

He probably did start a trend but it isn't just him now. But i can sympathize, it is not a nice feeling to have your server ripped away. I don't blame epvpers for not having threads about it though, you wouldn't allow it either i'm sure.
As it is going, there will be no private servers left soon anyway xD it is beginning to be a chore rather than a bit of fun now.

Svinseladden 01/13/2012 20:27

he's kind of pissing on his work now then. becouse all goes aginst eachothers here and well like you said no more servers. and all good dev/gm's out there stop having servers and well he soon have no way to pay his bots LOL.. that can be a fun entertainment. ok we didnt bring him down he did that him self.

he can't pay his hacking tools and loose everything

UVUC 01/13/2012 20:35

TBH, what is going to be funny is when the "new wave" of attackers hit the servers that Apollyon was paid off by... their "wasted" money to him will be funny news to me. :)

Svinseladden 01/13/2012 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by UVUC (Post 14785874)
TBH, what is going to be funny is when the "new wave" of attackers hit the servers that Apollyon was paid off by... their "wasted" money to him will be funny news to me. :)


that's the one i have been trying to tell everyone.

that time i can finaly slow down and have the time of my life

:bandit:

then this have been worth it and i mean totaly. :pimp:

aragonik 01/13/2012 21:48

Idk why, but if you get attacked then freaking log into your routers IP, check the logs, check the packets received, packets sent etc, Go to the WWICP world wide internet crime police, and get his ass busted? i mean dude.. >.>

DoSing is one things its just sending packets (HTTP,ucp,FDP,Lowrins etc)troug your own internet connection it can even be done with a simple batch line lol, but i wont go in future details,

but DDOSING is another thing it can be tracked even if you use IRC bots, VPN's or host your PhP Botnet on a VPS, it doesnt matter if WWICP does put effort into it then they will get hes ass busted.
And they will soon or later! All the money he made of DDOSING, will be Taken when he gets cougt thats a < WIN!! for the WWICP. I heard devs are also working on it. And im sure many peopol with some computer knowledge will stand against this DDOSER.

This is a critical moment for The Shaiya P-Server ''economy'' but these days we have to fight back! and not give up, and yes this Child'ish guy has started a trend. i know many kids that go to a random hacking site get a UDP flooder and call theirselve a DDOSER (while they are only DoSing AKA denial of service'ing) While these floods wont even hurt a little lol i really mean that these floods wont hurt.. Moste peopol aint even be able to get a home connection down with a UDP flood:p

We will have to get this guy down, and im sure he wont stay ddosing, He will certainley make a mistake once, And that one mistake will be fatal.

Sorry that my english sucks that bad i hope you understand what i've tried to tell you all :)

HoaX. 01/14/2012 01:19

All you need is some (maybe 2) hacked servers with a better bandwidth than the target server...And the target server can't handle incoming packages anymore. That's the point.
And that is too easy to get in my eyes. Isn't it?

Anyway good luck.

JohnHeatz 01/14/2012 07:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephyr1530 (Post 14785317)
Don't you think it is getting deleted for a reason, it isn't Epvpers fault, but it isn't the private servers fault for not being 'protected' either. People shouldn't give in to a blackmailers hands but then again from the perspective of Epvpers, it only causes more arguments and hate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svinseladden (Post 14785432)
i'm just pissed of at elite that every time we try and talk about this, they remove it. i'm not pissed at them in any other way..

I am sorry about this, but the attacks and constantly making threads about this topic just brings more and more drama to the forums, and we need to avoid drama the most possible, that is why most of the threads must be deleted, because at the end of them, many users may fall into breaking some of ElitePvPers' Board Rules, and that is something that -also- needs to be avoided.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svinseladden (Post 14785432)
but to be protected like many other Thread's out there this one might be important too..

This thread is staying unless drama starts and gets users to infringe the rules, but while this stays clean I do not see why it should get deleted

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svinseladden (Post 14785432)
or have a thread about the attacks anyway..

There is no point on this, any and every attack is being done outside ElitePvPers so there is no need for such thread in here.

Zephyr1530 01/14/2012 07:46

I think people don't understand what a DDoS is. You cannot read the logs of an attack, there is nothing you can read the logs from, you are down before it reaches your router, you need something before the modem. Just because you have a bigger bandwidth does not mean you can stop the attack either, all a DDoS protection does is re route it and it has bots to handle it, it is all about how many bots you have essentially.

aragonik 01/14/2012 11:38

Well thats how an IRC botnet "Bot" works but there are so many other ways.
Also There are Programs to check INCOMING packets, those that didnt reach your router yet, but are going to.

and its true that every attack is being done outside e*pvpers but he used our sources at the advertisement section, and every single information about him might be needed to make him stop.
And while some one posts hes details in a tread and you or anyone else deletes/closes it we wont be able to find out who he actually is. I've been thinking also about it and [GM]Cola from 66shaiya's irl name was Ian/Ion w/e .

Svinseladden 01/14/2012 15:24

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thanks to the admins that make this stay. and i'll try to not do much bashing LOL.

but for all that don't think you can trace this?

i only removed our ip that got attacked..

imposible to trace? well sorry

just to show ppl how easy it is to give this stuff to the cops..

i did that yes but 1 guy.. do they take it serius? not sure yet..

comodo is free is it that hard to block a few ports? and sorce port not destination ports..

just got up again from 17 hours, but all he can do is block my internet trafic and that's all..

JohnHeatz 01/14/2012 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by aragonik (Post 14792234)
and its true that every attack is being done outside e*pvpers but he used our sources at the advertisement section, and every single information about him might be needed to make him stop.
And while some one posts hes details in a tread and you or anyone else deletes/closes it we wont be able to find out who he actually is. I've been thinking also about it and [GM]Cola from 66shaiya's irl name was Ian/Ion w/e .

The point is that there are many other websites in which servers are advertised, and everybody knows about them, so, the information is not just taken from ElitePvPers, it is taken from every site that helps advertise servers.

If you are still wondering which sites, well just think about voting sites, other forums and even Google by doing a simple research.

There is no need to make posts about personal information, if it must be shared, there are PMs available; and actually there are a couple of threads which weren't deleted but just closed with some of that kind of information.

aragonik 01/14/2012 20:48

Then IF you have information about them/it feel free to PM me everything! Im creating an archive about all the information i retrieved atm, and when i have enough usefull information, i will contact the WWIC and see what they say.

Zephyr1530 01/14/2012 23:08

what about people who change their ip every 10 minutes, and there is a difference between a DoS and a DDoS. Even if a private server does find out who it is, which you can occasionally, you cant go to the police, the only way to do it is by paying for a service or taking the matter into your own hands.

aragonik 01/14/2012 23:49

Taking the matter into your own hands? how buying a Sniper rifle and flying off to Romenia?

[DEV]xXDASHXx 01/15/2012 03:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephyr1530 (Post 14802983)
what about people who change their ip every 10 minutes, and there is a difference between a DoS and a DDoS. Even if a private server does find out who it is, which you can occasionally, you cant go to the police, the only way to do it is by paying for a service or taking the matter into your own hands.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aragonik (Post 14803543)
Taking the matter into your own hands? how buying a Sniper rifle and flying off to Romenia?

not takeing into own hands as in sniper rifle its my honest GUESS he is refering to the statement of discovering the ip learning who it is then fighteing fire with fire he hacks you you hack him back type in own hands matter but that is not any of my itentions nor desiers as i myself am aginst hacking rather good or bad for those purpuses only hacking i like is shaiya server developmental related that hacking i am all for lol

aragonik 01/15/2012 10:01

That is why im making an archive about this guys information :P

Svinseladden 01/15/2012 13:56

the problem i feel going around here is find it your self or die. but well servers all over the place die all the time. and the only one gaining on this is the hackers (what i call them all).

the few that want to fight and not pay should be working agianst him but then again all could spred alot of false info if they are getting added in secret.. who to trust and who to not trust?

so many servers out there that help him run it's just in a way funny.

everything goes out of the players..

i see servers jacking up there prices all the time, some even close to aeria's prices LOL.

I always cut our prices just for the hell of it just becouse this..

after i blocked 3072 and 1024 port from source port my server/pc and all that stop getting the attack. but then again the host still get the attack against them so the server/pc/ip what ever goes down anyway..

aragonik 01/15/2012 14:16

ive been working on an idea i wont release in public. i'll need many peopol and some information about him.

JohnHeatz 01/15/2012 16:49

My personal opinion about this is...why to fight fire with fire when there is water to stinguish the flames?

Instead of some people "doing" this by themselves to attack someone, why don't you either get all together to do it, OR start working on something to DEFEND yourself.

But that is just my opinion, and as for me, I see it this way and that is why I started a project, which has no estimated time for its release -yet- that is basically to defend, instead of to attack.

aragonik 01/15/2012 18:16

Could you tell me how it works? on skype or what ever, im interested .

or just on what it does/whats it function is if you want to keep it a secret.

Also, if you are going to release it then make it in a post with a password, peopol have to pm u to get the password, otherway Appo will find a work around propably

Zephyr1530 01/16/2012 20:30

You're making the mistake of thinking it is only Apollyon DDoSing

thebestone66 01/17/2012 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephyr1530 (Post 14828640)
You're making the mistake of thinking it is only Apollyon DDoSing

For the most part it is since he always bragged that hes taking down 6-7 servers at a time to everyone. but yes there are other people DDOS also some others that have openly admit it and we know of them too. I wont say unless needed.

Svinseladden 01/17/2012 10:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephyr1530 (Post 14828640)
You're making the mistake of thinking it is only Apollyon DDoSing

well i for one know there is more out there:-)

we just talk about him becouse his the one sticking his face out braging about it:-)

aragonik 01/17/2012 12:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svinseladden (Post 14832926)
well i for one know there is more out there:-)

we just talk about him becouse his the one sticking his face out braging about it:-)

Indeed. And JohnHeatz told me about hes defending plan and it seems really nice.

I hope it will make effect and there wont be a work around for it (i atleast hope), and come out soon because its much much needed o:
Many PS devs , will not release another PSver untill these Cunts are caught/Stopped.The future of Shaiya P*servers is in our hands.

Svinseladden 01/17/2012 15:30

one idea here.. Mabe it's srupid. but well here goes..

if our running login on a server like a small one don't cost much and your just running login on that server and well under game.ini you put the server that have the GAME. so the game.exe point to login server right and the login server pass it to the game server. that way he have no way of getting the server down with ddos only loggin? and well if you try many times you still get in when he ddos.

or is this just stupid?

just poped up in my head LOL

ok i have stoped all the php stuff on my server... and well we just need to be carefull he he

aragonik 01/17/2012 15:40

Hmm well... Its quite good idea, but on wich server is the game.exe running then? its easy to get a Server IP by opening the game.exe in HxD and any one can do that.
it would be better to make something, that detects all proxys/VPN's if an acount try's to log in with a proxy/vpn then it should be instant banned. and if an acount visits your site using a proxy/vpn it should be Mac banned. and if a user with a proxy/vpn trys to register your php script or download the game it should be banned BEFORE the download begins. OTher then that romain IP's shouldnt be allowed to Join/dowload it might be '' racist'' but its just for security purpose.. Thoug coding this detection script will take lots of time, knowing every single vpn/proxy IP will be hard too :/

and i dont know what JohnHeatz is working on but i guess it will be less difficoult but effective.

Svinseladden 01/17/2012 15:45

well game.exe in the client is running to the login server. why you can make a hamachi server but you still need to run 127.0.0.1 at your own home. then when you connect to that loggin server that klogin server send you to the ip that you put up under ps_game.ini (public ip)

or well this is how i understand how this is working. so this means no player know the real ip if you do it this way..

i just hope i'm right LOL never tested it.. but i guess his is how they make more servers on the same loggin too..

like old evolution one low rate and 1 high rate

aragonik 01/17/2012 15:53

hmm i believe that game.exe ip == ps_game.ini
if game.exe ip =/= ps_game.ini it will fail

im not sure but i think game.exe and ini files HAVE to match never tried it out either.

theres a tut on making more servers on same login its easy.. Just add in some ini files Serverconnectionamount 2
named01: Game
Named02: Game2
its not identic how it works but theres a tut on here some were.

Svinseladden 01/17/2012 15:56

well then if you play with hamachi. if you want to play from the same pc that hold the server (like i did back in he closed beta stage) i needed 127.0.0.1 ip in game.exe but hamachi ip in ps_game.exe.ini

aragonik 01/17/2012 15:58

oh weird. Other peopol were also able to join your game troug hamachi with a 127.0.0.1 game.exe?

Svinseladden 01/17/2012 16:01

well yea but still i hosted both loggin and game on the pc tho.. so they needed the ip to contact my pc..

aragonik 01/17/2012 16:12

Yes i know how hamachi works ;)

mwell i geuss its just time, and messing around finding ways to defend ourselve. are you still getting ddosed? or aint you online anymore :/


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