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MrSm!th 01/08/2011 15:09

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I have no problem without killing aegins and with killing aegis.

so i think that cant be rea reason the mysterius is that the most of the xp users are detected, and some others not.

The Im workst at the moment only at wi 7 and Vista users corectly (exept you with win xp)
so you havent xp? then you cannot know whether it is the problem.
rather not killing aegis than killing it! it is not necessary and increases the detection risk

>´¯`·)»Lazarus«(·´¯`< 01/08/2011 15:13

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Originally Posted by MrSm!th (Post 8561862)
so you havent xp? then you cannot know whether it is the problem.
rather not killing aegis than killing it! it is not necessary and increases the detection risk

i have xp on my 2. Pc here so i can tray it on Vista and xp

to kill aegis has the effect for me that i still gets a trial detect, but i deasnt get a ban thoug the detect

[email protected] 01/08/2011 15:41

So I didn't know about the update, and tried to use it once. Got detected, as I was fumbi'ing. Came and read. Found out XP gets detected. I get back on s4 the second time, no IM, and I don't use other hacks. Then I get banned till 8/1/11 for "multiple hacking trials"?! ._.

nfouser 01/08/2011 16:12

i got banned and im using Win7 32bit so i dont think its only XP

Atomicstar 01/08/2011 16:16

Mr.Sm!th! When will the IM uploaded?... Or should the Windows XP users try to kill the Aegis? Here is the Aegis killer from De4Su: [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Forfirith 01/08/2011 16:21

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Originally Posted by nfouser (Post 8563204)
i got banned and im using Win7 32bit so i dont think its only XP

It's safe to use in Win7 32bits. I use it and I have no problems.
If you get the HTD message just press ESC.

If you got banned FOR USING IM you were reported by some user to which you bragged about ("Ahahaha!~ Look at this cool AP items!" "Pssht, Ill tell you my secret..."), you played with a GM and he got suspicious, or you had multiple HTD messages AND pressed that damn button.
Or you could have been banned by using other hacks... or by simply playing S4L, they're testing new things in their anti hacking method that has been detecting even legit players.
Take a pick.

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Originally Posted by Atomicstar (Post 8563276)
Mr.Sm!th! When will the IM uploaded?... Or should the Windows XP users try to kill the Aegis? Here is the Aegis killer from De4Su: [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

You mean "Updated", and he'll do it when he has time, so you just have to WAIT PATIENTLY.
And NO, don't kill Aegis. It raises the chances of YOU being detected.

nfouser 01/08/2011 16:35

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Originally Posted by Forfirith (Post 8563387)


It's safe to use in Win7 32bits. I use it and I have no problems.
If you get the HTD message just press ESC.

If you got banned FOR USING IM you were reported by some user to which you bragged about ("Ahahaha!~ Look at this cool AP items!" "Pssht, Ill tell you my secret..."), you played with a GM and he got suspicious, or you had multiple HTD messages AND pressed that damn button.
Or you could have been banned by using other hacks... or by simply playing S4L, they're testing new things in their anti hacking method that has been detecting even legit players.
Take a pick.

well its kinda insulting but nvm
anyway 2 of my acc's was banned in this way i entered to the server played abit when i wanted to switch server there was come the msg i did the ESC thing but its just dissapear and disconncted and when i tried to enter again i was banned well after then i just tried to enter on my 2nd acc and checked if its bcoz the server switching and i was right so...
and non of those funny sentences was correct so tell me if u can how u avoided it and maybe it will help me

Forfirith 01/08/2011 16:42

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Originally Posted by nfouser (Post 8563675)
well its kinda insulting but nvm
anyway 2 of my acc's was banned in this way i entered to the server played abit when i wanted to switch server there was come the msg i did the ESC thing but its just dissapear and disconncted and when i tried to enter again i was banned and non of those funny sentences was correct so tell me how u avoided it and maybe it will help

It's not meant to be insulting. But I've seen ppl bragging about IM/AP and get caught like that. Besides I've given all possible choices to why you could've been detected if you followed the steps. (And I lol @ funny sentences...)
And if you'd followed the steps of correct IM use you wouldn't have been banned.
"Switch server": from that I can tell you have forgotten to press RESTORE before doing so. So there's your probable 'cause of Ban.

PS.: I don't need to AVOID anything since I don't get any HTD message from IM usage. Just follow the rules... Simple.

Pss: I've been told that the German server is giving bans (lol). So... avoid it.

Pokersims 01/08/2011 16:54

Can everyone post (for) me a german description, how to use this Hack, because I dont understand where I musst press Restor before I click Start.

Thanks for helping.

Mfg.

Pokersims

nfouser 01/08/2011 17:01

haha xD
Well no of the choices right but about the RESTORE maybe i think you're right.
But i will test it now and reply if i got banned again or not cuz i wanna know wtf

PS: LOL You replying fast

Forfirith 01/08/2011 17:05

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Originally Posted by nfouser (Post 8564139)
haha xD
Well no of the choices right but about the RESTORE maybe i think you're right.
But i will test it now and reply if i got banned again or not cuz i wanna know wtf

PS: LOL You replying fast

Do so ;)
Never forget the restore. Before changing channels and servers it's essential.

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Originally Posted by Pokersims (Post 8564024)
Can anyone post (for) me a german description, how to use this Hack, because I dont understand where I musst press Restor before I click Start.

Thanks for helping.

Mfg.

Pokersims

Would you understand me if I told you it's in the lobby of the game room, where all the players gather before a game starts?

nfouser 01/08/2011 17:06

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Originally Posted by Pokersims (Post 8564024)
Can everyone post (for) me a german description, how to use this Hack, because I dont understand where I musst press Restor before I click Start.

Thanks for helping.

Mfg.

Pokersims

You Click restore any time when you enter to the room before you start to play means the start button and the ready button either

translated O_o by google xD
Sie auf Wiederherstellen klicken jederzeit, wenn Sie den Raum betreten, bevor Sie anfangen zu spielen bedeutet der Start-Taste und die Taste entweder bereit

Dumbo1 01/08/2011 17:10

omg ich hab die hälfte meiner waffen an-.- wie kann ich die ausziehen!??????

>´¯`·)»Lazarus«(·´¯`< 01/08/2011 17:11

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You Click restore any time when you enter to the room before you start to play means the start button and the ready button either

translated O_o by google xD
Sie auf Wiederherstellen klicken jederzeit, wenn Sie den Raum betreten, bevor Sie anfangen zu spielen bedeutet der Start-Taste und die Taste entweder bereit
I translate them >.< google translate sucks >.<


Wenn du einen Raum betreten hast, musst du in der Raumlobby bevor du mit Start dich Ready machst oder dem Laufendem game joinst, Restore Drücken.

Dann kannst du dem Spiel per Klick auf Start Joinen

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omg ich hab die hälfte meiner waffen an-.- wie kann ich die ausziehen!??????
Inventory ausziehn, oder Raum leaven und im Inventar dein IM profil neu machen

Pokersims 01/08/2011 17:33

Und wo ist der/die Restore Button/Taste ? xD Ich bin heute zu verpeilt^^

>´¯`·)»Lazarus«(·´¯`< 01/08/2011 17:53

Da wo auch Die anderen Buttons sind auf dem kleinen Fenster das sich öfnet, musst evtl mit alt+tab darauf wechseln

Fridgid 01/08/2011 18:04

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Originally Posted by MrSm!th (Post 8558359)
#update

i found another reason for the MSVCRT100.dll error, sorry :o

now it has to be fixed! :<

OMG I can't believe it.. the IM actually works now for me, too :D

tyty for all the efforts

Atomicstar 01/08/2011 18:07

:o! Lol! Does it work on the Windows XP now? o.O
Please, reply as fast as somebody can! =D

Edit: Sorry, I'm lazy to try it out!

Forfirith 01/08/2011 18:10

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Originally Posted by Atomicstar (Post 8565505)
:o! Lol! Does it work on the Windows XP now? o.O
Please, reply as fast as somebody can! =D

No, still won't work.
MrSm!th only corrected a recurring .dll problem that needed a visual c++ package install. And that was Fridgid's problem.

pellebakker1 01/08/2011 21:39

I am using this for a wile but now i get hacking trail detected i wanted to report this fast sow now you know
i hope you can fix this if you cant never mind it was fun :P

ty for al MR.Sm!th
ps sorry for my bad english xD

tuntien96 01/08/2011 21:41

if u got hacking trial detected then click right upper corner and then press ESC ^^

playa 38 01/08/2011 21:42

also bei mir kommt immer x-trap..
ich starte IM und dann s4 und dann kommt kurz schwarzes bild und dann steht da i-was mit xtrap das er was gefunden hätte und so dies das...
kann mir jemand da helfen?

MrSm!th 01/08/2011 22:29

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Originally Posted by Atomicstar (Post 8565505)
:o! Lol! Does it work on the Windows XP now? o.O
Please, reply as fast as somebody can! =D

Edit: Sorry, I'm lazy to try it out!

which systen do you have exactly?
i have win xp prof. 32 bit and it works without any problems (xtrap, aegis, hgwc running)

BlankPerson 01/08/2011 22:54

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Originally Posted by Forfirith (Post 8563387)

Or you could have been banned by using other hacks... or by simply playing S4L, they're testing new things in their anti hacking method that has been detecting even legit players.

Always nice to know that all of us, even players just trying to get by with plain PEN stuff, are just guinea pigs, eh?
This reminds me of that utterly stupid port issue that xtrap had a while back. People getting kicked left and right regardless of whether they were actually hacking or not. Took them a month+ to "fix" it...ah, good times, good times.

Regarding Aegis, what role does it actually play? Isn't it just part of the mess that cloaks the client, and so not even related to the problem?

And finally, in my experience using Restore before switching channels/servers is only necessary if you have AP-skinned weapons. In the couple of times I accidentally switched without restoring, it didn't error out or anything; my stuff just reverted to default skins.
That's not to say that you shouldn't do it anyway, to be safe; you should. Just don't flip out and think you're going to get pwnt by xtrap in five seconds if you slip up and forget, and if you DO get caught by xtrap, don't blame it completely on yourself, as they seem to be passing out detections rather freely these days.


Sm!th, what are your computer's full specs? Do you run anything else that might be making xtrap more tame? Do you keep Windows 100% up to date (service packs, security updates etc)?

GoldenBullet 01/08/2011 23:37

Hmm nop we get block for 3h,day,three days,.... its not the faketrail.
Well good luck on fixing it.

BlankPerson 01/09/2011 00:23

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Originally Posted by astroboy344 (Post 8573229)
THIS HACK SUUUUUUUCKS KJHKHSDFHKN00BFGGTRY

It and your mother must get along pretty well then, eh?

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Originally Posted by °Status (Post 8572521)
Hiho,

Ich weiß nicht, ob es den Fehler hier schonmal gab, denn Ich habe keiner Lust, mir den ganzen Thread durchzulesen, daher verzeit es mir bitte, wenn er schonmal gepostet wurde, danke !

Joar, wenn Ich den IM starte und dann S4 starte, bekomme Ich, sofort nachdem HGW geladen wurde folgende Fehlermeldung:

[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Habe Windows Xp 32 Bit

Danke schonmal .

Dies ist ein fake, nutzlos Fehler ignorieren.

Halten Sie versuchen, wird es schließlich zu arbeiten.

Allerdings ist IM derzeit auf vielen XP x32-Computern erkannt werden. Sie sollten nicht verwenden, da zu kaufen.

(I hope that was at least partially understandable, Google doesn't always translate well...)

MrSm!th 01/09/2011 00:55

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Originally Posted by BlankPerson (Post 8571687)
Always nice to know that all of us, even players just trying to get by with plain PEN stuff, are just guinea pigs, eh?
This reminds me of that utterly stupid port issue that xtrap had a while back. People getting kicked left and right regardless of whether they were actually hacking or not. Took them a month+ to "fix" it...ah, good times, good times.

i am sure, this time it is something similar!
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Regarding Aegis, what role does it actually play? Isn't it just part of the mess that cloaks the client, and so not even related to the problem?
aegis just protects the game client before xtrap is launched.
aegis was only created because of those shitty string trainers, they wrote into the memory before xtrap loaded its drivers, so they wrote a software which protects S4Client.exe immediately when the process is created.

but it has nothing to do with the detection and actually nothing with the disconnects, so killing it will not help.
On the contrary it will increase the detection risk, because HGWC checks XTrap's and Aegis' activity, so if it is killed, it could send the disconnect packet to the server.
And if it does not do it yet, it will some patch, i am sure!
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Sm!th, what are your computer's full specs? Do you run anything else that might be making xtrap more tame? Do you keep Windows 100% up to date (service packs, security updates etc)?
I dont use any xtrap or aegis killers or any suspenders.
No Bypass, nothing.
I just run the latest IM, run the S4 patcher, press Start and play.
When I am ingame, i choose profiles as shortly as possible!
This is important, if your inventory is corrupted for a too long time, you will get HTD.
So just save a profile, find a room you want to join, choose the profile, join and when you are in the room, restore immediately!
Then press start and have fun.

I have Win XP Prof. 32bit Service Pack 3, i download most of the updates, I have no AntiVirus and no Firewall running.
(why? because the router has a hardware firewall, noone can break into our network, as long as this firewall is kept closed! and i dont need any AV, because I know what i download. and i dont download any kind of hack or other crap (like warez); i dont need it)
Yeah, thats it, nothing more to say.

astroboy344 01/09/2011 02:36

@BlankPerson It and your mother must get along pretty well then, eh?
lol please try and say something orginal please before i cumble you into bits <3

temp4531 01/09/2011 03:24

MrSm!th, today i tried to play with IM on XP, got 2 bans by skipping HTD, but 3d try was successful (no errors or bans). We need just be more careful with using hacks, as u say.

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When I am ingame, i choose profiles as shortly as possible!
This is important, if your inventory is corrupted for a too long time, you will get HTD...

...when you are in the room, restore immediately!
This was my fault. I was to slow.
But change in x-trap really had a place on 6-7th January, cos before it there was no any troubles.

pS: i think ill just install windows7 xD

BlankPerson 01/09/2011 03:38

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Originally Posted by MrSm!th (Post 8573869)
i am sure, this time it is something similar!

Maybe some kind of failed reconnect via the xtrap port that's triggered when switching servers?
Doesn't really explain why it doesn't happen with no hacks running, though. Hmm.

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Originally Posted by MrSm!th (Post 8573869)
On the contrary it will increase the detection risk, because HGWC checks XTrap's and Aegis' activity, so if it is killed, it could send the disconnect packet to the server.
And if it does not do it yet, it will some patch, i am sure!

*nods* I've noticed in other hacking threads that the general difficulty is that if you kill one of the three, one of the others WILL notice unless it's done carefully.
Although, that Aegis CAN be disabled is a big step in the right direction towards freeing s4 from this retardedly dysfunctional antihack combination, I think.

Speaking of which, I'm actually really surprised that nobody's tossed together some sort of emulator for X-Trap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSm!th (Post 8573869)
This is important, if your inventory is corrupted for a too long time, you will get HTD.

This might be a dumb question, but...are you sure it's not the reverse?
I mean, xtrap monitors the memory that the game is using, right? Normally, a player will equip one set of equipment and stick with it.
So under normal circumstances, the memory holding inventory information doesn't change often. But you're suggesting that players should change it whenever their IM-stored equipment isn't needed; I would think all this switching around would make xtrap errors MORE common, not less.
Am I making any sense here? D:

As far as computer differences go, it looks like my setup is similar to yours; the only difference being that I use Windows Firewall. It's doubtful that that's the problem though, as I have it set to be transparent to s4...


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Originally Posted by astroboy344 (Post 8574935)
lol please try and say something orginal please before i cumble you into bits <3

I apologize. That was pretty generic, wasn't it.
It's just that I don't waste awesome comebacks on silly little scrubs; I save them for special occasions, where they'll be appreciated by both the victim and the audience. You understand, yes?

Also, crumble? I'm a person, not a bloody pastry :\
That much should be obvious, I mean really, just look at my username. Some people...

GoldenBullet 01/09/2011 03:45

What is "Killing aegis" ?

c420c22 01/09/2011 05:12

works good, thanks

Atomicstar 01/09/2011 07:59

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Originally Posted by GoldenBullet (Post 8575426)
What is "Killing aegis" ?

Aegis is a hack detector syst. or something like that.

If I'm wrong somebody reply me.:mofo:

KayRool 01/09/2011 09:33

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Originally Posted by Atomicstar (Post 8576261)
Aegis is a hack detector syst. or something like that.

If I'm wrong somebody reply me.:mofo:

vvvvvvv

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSm!th (Post 8573869)
aegis just protects the game client before xtrap is launched.
aegis was only created because of those shitty string trainers, they wrote into the memory before xtrap loaded its drivers, so they wrote a software which protects S4Client.exe immediately when the process is created.

but it has nothing to do with the detection and actually nothing with the disconnects, so killing it will not help.
On the contrary it will increase the detection risk, because HGWC checks XTrap's and Aegis' activity, so if it is killed, it could send the disconnect packet to the server.
And if it does not do it yet, it will some patch, i am sure!


LexaeusLP 01/09/2011 10:56

Ohhhh okay , if I don´t restore always my inventory , I´ll get banned? I´m useing wind. XP I think x32? XD yea , i´ve got banned for 2days -.-" :D
Könnt auch auf Deutsch antworten XD

playa 38 01/09/2011 13:10

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Originally Posted by °Status (Post 8572521)
Hiho,

Ich weiß nicht, ob es den Fehler hier schonmal gab, denn Ich habe keiner Lust, mir den ganzen Thread durchzulesen, daher verzeit es mir bitte, wenn er schonmal gepostet wurde, danke !

Joar, wenn Ich den IM starte und dann S4 starte, bekomme Ich, sofort nachdem HGW geladen wurde folgende Fehlermeldung:

[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Habe Windows Xp 32 Bit

Danke schonmal .

genau das selbe problem hab ich auch.
was kann man dagegen machen?

zwar hat jemand darauf schon geantwortet aber auf google deutsch und den versteh ich nicht.. ^^

Status 01/09/2011 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlankPerson (Post 8573339)
It and your mother must get along pretty well then, eh?



Dies ist ein fake, nutzlos Fehler ignorieren.

Halten Sie versuchen, wird es schließlich zu arbeiten.

Allerdings ist IM derzeit auf vielen XP x32-Computern erkannt werden. Sie sollten nicht verwenden, da zu kaufen.

(I hope that was at least partially understandable, Google doesn't always translate well...)

Thanks for you answer, but i think, it would be better, if you write your text in english ^^'.

gasag 01/09/2011 13:17

Ich habe eine frage
1: Wie verwende ich den IM manager
2:Wofür ist er eigentlich gut?

Sry für die blöde Frage aber ich blick es irgendwie nicht

LexaeusLP 01/09/2011 14:00

@gasag
Zu Frage 1: Du startest den IM , dannach S4, wenn du an XTrap vorbei kommst , sollte ingame eine Box sein in der du dir ein Profil erstellen kannst. Zieh alles an was du speichern willst , speicher dein Profil , zieh alles wieder aus und lad das Profil, (Sachen die eigentlich in z.B stunden ablaufen, laufen garnichtmehr ab!)
Frage 2: wie gesagt du kannst wenn du z.B ne schöne AP brust für eine Stunde hast , speicher und du hast sie für immer ;P.

@Playa 38
Versuch es immer und immer und immer und immer...... wieder irgendwann müsste es gehen(so bei mir auch wenn ich XP habe und bann bekomme XD) einfach ned aufgeben, ich glaube zurzeit gibt es keine Lösung

yusei45 01/09/2011 16:29

bei mir meldet sich XTrap >.<


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