What classes currently have the best devs for GGL PvE in Dragonflight?

What classes currently have the best devs for GGL PVP in Dragonflight?

I hate how all of this extra dev stuff is hidden, I can't even get on their Discord and see what options they have without buying the base?

I mean there are only a handful of devs, and with it being so early in DF it's really hard to give such an answer, and it's also going to be based on whatever class you play.

Maybe contact their support and see if you can get invites into the rotation developers' discords.

Yeah, because I am dumb enough to add you on my main account after everything I said about ggl :kekw:

I have seen Spiken and Robin ban people for 1/10th of what I said, and I would rather not lose my discord access. Also, you literally are not in the servers on the account you added me on, so I guess with your logic, you are also talking a lot of horseshit.

Edit: This guy is just talking out of his ass and most likely some ggl dev, I assume. He is not even in Spiken's discord or the official ggl discord and keeps telling me if I don't add him on my main account he won't talk to me. They are probably just trying to bait me to snitch on me to Robin or Spiken :kekw:

I proved I was in ggl by literally copy-pasting a chunk of conversation in the general chat, yet you couldn't even provide a simple screenshot of being in the ggl chat beside a screenshot showing you in elk and berserker's discord :kekw:

If anyone else wants to check for themselves, this user's discord is Pirox
#8471 but most likely is just Spiken's shell ACC I assume, shilling out trying to advertise.

Huh, who else has the mannerism of saying "i though" multiple times?

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Literally, Spiken's alt account just advertising :kekw:

You guys need to take this to your inbox; this has become off-topic; people are here to talk about their experience with the products they use; they're uninterested in your arguments with each other.

You're doing an injustice to GGL and adding no value to there product by adding all your nonsense talking points that no one is interested in. You not only make GGL look bad, but you make it look as if their community is toxic.

I understand everyone has their own opinions, and that's fine, you made your opinion, and you can now move on; at this point, you're just spamming and flaming the thread because you have a difference in opinion.

Once again, You posted your opinion. You're free to move on.

after talking with @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] on discord, i will keep this clean. He said i was comming of as toxic which im not. I just like to argue, but will keep it in DMs insteed

Yeah I'm getting pretty frustrated with Simia developers lately. I understand that they're just two guys but they've been completely ignoring WotLK since DF beta launch. No new features, no new rotations, and very few bug fixes. I think I'll discontinue my Simia subscription this month and stick with Hyper because at least they're still working on their product.

does MaxDPS can atleast give you 90% parse ?

That's a shame, Rubim and Human are usually pretty good at helping people out, maybe they can get some more help on the development side because their product has a great foundation. I'm happy to hear you at least found a home at Elk and still can enjoy the game.

This I can't tell you, I never use MaxDPS in a raid before. I used it in Mythic Plus and on some private servers.

@[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] you had a look at the 'new' aimsharp stuff? Also hearing rumblings of AS bans?

I just looked at the changes; nothing to special with them, just a web-based UI, and some API changes; other than that nothing too special.

Also, with the bans, I don't know what's going on there; I have not seen any mass bans; I just heard there were a few people got banned, but no one knows why; for all we know, those people were using 3rd party software outside of Aimsharp such as unlockers. Users never seem to tell the truth when they get banned, in my experience.

I don't know if you have used a pixelbot as rogue, but if you have, which one would you recommend for mythic+? @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Simia has a very good rogue; they also have a trial you can check out.

cD
 

link?

discord.gg/fw9trJetRA

Thank you very much, I'll look into it.

Happy new years.

After some more testing, I can't recommend Simia anymore for WotLK. They have fixed one bug in the past month while ignoring the mountain of bug reports and feature requests piling up. The TTD feels random and it messes up a lot of rotations. They've given a whole lot of empty promises as to when they'll be working on it again. I would stay far away from it for the foreseeable future. Until then, stick to HyperElk. Even with its many faults, it gets more testing, has healing rotation, and bugs are actually fixed.

Update:

Regarding WOTLK HyperElk feral druid, the current bear weaving rotation is very flawed to the point where its not worth using it. I tried explaining how to fix it to the feral developer and was told
Which is fair enough.

somone link a pvp rotation pls

What class are you looking for PVP?

WOTLK or any classic version of wow is just not worth wasting time on; it's a waste of development resources and time IMO; those users make up a tiny fraction of the actual user base, and really I think is more of an annoyance than anything else.

Elk specified many times Classic versions of wow are not officially supported, it's more of an addon for convenience to its users, if you wanted you can develop your own rotas that can work with Elk or Simia. If not, you're best to use an unlocker and make LUA rotations.

Tamed you seem to have fair grasp on the state of rotation bots in general. In your honest opinion for those of us that are seeking wotlk rotations pvp specific it seems to me(price not considered) that ggl and a# may be somewhat viable? It's hard to get info on either of these communities as they are heavily gated. As someone who's been banned recently for using luas id really like to stay away from them given the time sink that is classic. I don't expect then to be Lua quality but with elk only supporting 3 rotations and it seems no else has any these two are kind of my last ditch effort.

Nvm went past the first page and found my answer. Seems ggl is decent just extremely overpriced to get into. I wish aimsharp was easier to see what they offered in terms of profiles though. They just have retail stuff listed.

Honestly, I'm not going to give you an opinion on Classic versions of the game as I don't play them and have no interest in them (unless it's Pandaland and Above :) ).

Maybe you're better to get something custom-made for yourself. You can always seek out custom development for money if you really want something that suits your needs.

Eh I've done the Morpheus route and while for pvp I think it's fine but it's somewhat limited in pvp. Plus you are completely reliant on them any time you want something fixed or in my case I jacked up my binds several times because of another addon and would always have to wait to get them to fix it. Granted it wasn't long it was just more annoying than clicking a program and being good to go.

Hey i'm looking for a good PVP Rotation for rogue, I find elk the best for PVE so far but haven't found any good PVP for rogue. I tried GGL but tbh I don't know if either I set it up badly or it just doesn't work as good as I thought it would.

Do you think its possible to climb serious in pvp with morhpheus ?

GGL can be quite hard to setup and its very common to setup something wrong or accidently do something that can cause issues.

I think depending on the spec and class(faceroll) it would be very possible. I used them for a ret pally pvp build back in tbc had perfect seal twisting etc but ret lacked a large variety of what I would call complex play such as stance dancing or playing feral for instance. So some of those more complex classes I can't say how in depth the rotations go.

Sounds good thanks, i will test dk soon

You seem to have used GGL so I'll ask you because the dev's don't really make sense when i ask them. When purchasing GGL you have the monthly fee. Which is your normal or private. Then you purchase a class? This is a one time fee of $75. Can you explain to me what this fee is for? From what I understand is that GGL doesn't actually create its own profiles. So you have to purchase GGL then find whatever Dev is making profiles and purchase a profile from them? So you have to pay the month sub, a one time fee for a class that is essentially for nothing, to turn around and pay another month fee to a dev?

You pay one time fee to unlock and use a class, where most rotation bot take a montly price of 30-40euro/month.
GGL takes 10Euro/month, but they have one time payment per expansion for the classes. Where you can either buy 1 class or AIO all classes for a one time fee. Which in the end makes it cheaper then most.

GGL right now dont make there own offical rotations, but there are profiles that are free and also other stuff you have access to, so you can use your rotation for any class.
You also have premium profiles that you can pay for to get access to that support PvP and highend mythic raiding and high m+
I think its these premium profile you talk about, most other platforms have the same.
HyperELK have it, Aimsharp have it etc.. most have community made profiles for sale that are premium from the free ones.

In general how much are these "premium" profiles? Are they monthly or one time fees?

They are montly and it all depends on what you after.
They range all from 10 Euro/month to 90Euro/month.
From single profile/specc to up to all speccs/classes

Well, you could always try to get one of the developers from one of the bigger bots to custom-make you something. Personally, Morpheus seems like a ripoff to be in terms of value for money. Basically, they just running some AHK scripts with WA2 pixels, not sure that's worth paying the price they ask for it.

Honestly I'm just kind of taking a peak and giving everyone a try atm. So far just from a wotlk standpoint only both simia and elk have limited support I'd say from a pve stand point and next to nothing pvp wise. Both have great customer service. I've just bought aimsharp and I'm. Beyond disappointed with the customer service atm I can't even get simple answer from the team. But they have paid pve profiles it seems so shelling out $40 a month for a single pve spec. I guess next on the list for next month pay be ggl.

I just don't think you will find much support in general for WOTLK; no one really cares about it in the rotations community. Retail is the main focus for both Core Developers and 3rd party developers.

Time to head back to retail :kekw:

I’m just going to put my opinion in here. I agree with OP. HyperElk is the best bang for your buck if you’re interested in high end PvE. For the money as opposed to everything else, it cannot be beat. Has a great interface, auto bind is great, most devs are on the ball (I’m a healer and Ryu/Playmate’s rotations are very refined, I was parsing 85-95% out of the box on most heroic fights)

I tried GGL in the past and setting everything up was very difficult, Morpheus just doesn’t seem worth it from the few people I know who’ve purchased it.

I truly wish that lua unlockers and gohandsfree were still around for pvp without getting banned insta. I hit 2800 in rbgs and 2400 in 2s with that ��

I completely agree from what they offer on the pve from elk is unmatched. Although I think simia is up and coming and won't be far behind. But sadly for pvp there is nothing that compares to the unlockers in terms of performance and price. But you have to be okay with being banned as a windows user hence my witch hunt for pixel bots atm 😂

If pixel bots added farming, you would surely be seeing seasonal bans, but since most of these combat bots don't you really see Blizzard caring all that much if at all.

Thanks updated the information to reflect those changes.