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tamedbeast 08/26/2025 23:28

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Originally Posted by cayman123 (Post 40359692)
Well thats kind of a good advice lol, i was planning to level up a new character from 1-60 since i want to enjoy endgame but dont have the time any more for the leveling process

What other bots can you recommend?

I already read about GGL but I dont like paying for every single piece of the bot



How come that bots have become worse over time?
I used to bot in the honorbuddy era and it was just amazing seeing how well it was functioning. I can't believe that nobody else after bosslands downfall was able to revive this scene. Is it that the blizzard detection has become better?

And I'll take a look into Baneto. Tbh i also wanted to use my main account for botting but reading more about this I dont think its a good idea nowadays

Well, the Honorbuddy days were a decade ago; technology on Blizzard's side has improved drastically since then. Both Warden, Heuristics, and Machine learning/AI capabilities are 10x times more advanced. We just live in a different time.

Maybe you can check WEPW [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

I'm not sure if they support that version of classic, but it might not hurt to join their Discord and find out.

I wish I could help you further, but I'm not really a classic player, so I don't have much knowledge about it.

Engross0344 08/27/2025 16:22

Can you expand a little bit on GGloaders new meta engine? I don't understand how it can be clientless. Where is the software running from?

tamedbeast 08/27/2025 18:45

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Originally Posted by Engross0344 (Post 40360218)
Can you expand a little bit on GGloaders new meta engine? I don't understand how it can be clientless. Where is the software running from?

It works somewhat like a one-button Assistant, but with its own framework and much more complexity. It doesn't require any client to run it, only updating the rotations occasionally, which you can do without opening the game.

gimbex 08/28/2025 19:32

What about GGLoader pixel one, not the meta engine?
Worth to mention that this engine cost extra.
I want to try something and I was thinking about GGLoader since I’m playing only one class and I would like to know what is your opinion about it atm?
I would like to use it for mythica and raids.

tamedbeast 08/29/2025 03:59

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Originally Posted by gimbex (Post 40361229)
What about GGLoader pixel one, not the meta engine?
Worth to mention that this engine cost extra.
I want to try something and I was thinking about GGLoader since I’m playing only one class and I would like to know what is your opinion about it atm?
I would like to use it for mythica and raids.

I don't really talk about prices too much anymore since prices tend to change a lot, and I'm not a representative for these providers, and I don't want to speak on their prices; it's not my business.

I would recommend Rice rotations over GGL if you're not willing to use MetaEngine, as setting up keybinds in GGL is currently a horrible experience.

ganewanthu 09/16/2025 05:05

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast (Post 40361527)
I don't really talk about prices too much anymore since prices tend to change a lot, and I'm not a representative for these providers, and I don't want to speak on their prices; it's not my business.

I would recommend Rice rotations over GGL if you're not willing to use MetaEngine, as setting up keybinds in GGL is currently a horrible experience.

Would you sat GGL is a better pixelbot than Rice? When it comes to execute and handling PvE rotations

Violenthue 09/16/2025 07:41

I've messaged you, Beast.

tamedbeast 09/17/2025 04:06

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Originally Posted by Violenthue (Post 40374170)
I've messaged you, Beast.

I'll check shortly. I have a lot of messages I need to sort through.

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Originally Posted by ganewanthu (Post 40374126)
Would you sat GGL is a better pixelbot than Rice? When it comes to execute and handling PvE rotations

Price is better for sure with Rice

But overall quality of rotations is better with GGL and there is no client required for GGL with MetaEngine.

ganewanthu 09/17/2025 23:20

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast (Post 40374742)
I'll check shortly. I have a lot of messages I need to sort through.



Price is better for sure with Rice

But overall quality of rotations is better with GGL and there is no client required for GGL with MetaEngine.

True that the security of clientless engine is better thats where GGL truly shines.

But I have to argue against the rota quality. Rice is on-par with 3rd-parties of GGL tho.
Also I have only tried warr rota's

hamptone 09/18/2025 05:24

Nice list but curious as to why MAXDPS is still on it? Maxdps has got me banned 3 seprate expansions since legion lol

tamedbeast 09/19/2025 19:34

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Originally Posted by hamptone (Post 40375859)
Nice list but curious as to why MAXDPS is still on it? Maxdps has got me banned 3 seprate expansions since legion lol

This list has nothing to do with bans; it's simply talking about the product, and the product still exists. It's also not only used for live servers, but also for private servers.

Additionally, I have not seen any banwaves with Maxdps since Legion, up until TWW, when they finally had some bans on two different occasions; therefore, whatever you're saying is incorrect information, there were no bans in BFA, SL, and DF.

redv965 09/19/2025 23:56

Waiting your review about Spiken before i buy or even try, i trust you :)

Also is rotation lab got a ban before or its still ud ? , i try it before was super good but was from long time

Notyourfriend69 09/19/2025 23:59

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Originally Posted by redv965 (Post 40377463)
Waiting your review about Spiken before i buy or even try, i trust you :)

Also is rotation lab got a ban before or its still ud ? , i try it before was super good but was from long time

Spiken is very meh. you should stick to Makulu if you want aio, or Ryan/fruit for specific classes.

redv965 09/20/2025 00:04

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Originally Posted by Notyourfriend69 (Post 40377466)
Spiken is very meh. you should stick to Makulu if you want aio, or Ryan/fruit for specific classes.

I am user of makulu , but as i see there is alot of classes not fully supported/updated for pvp and pve.

Notyourfriend69 09/20/2025 04:20

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Originally Posted by redv965 (Post 40377471)
I am user of makulu , but as i see there is alot of classes not fully supported/updated for pvp and pve.

ah i see, i've used spiken a bit but was very unhappy with it, you can get a trial and see how it performs for you

Damdor 09/21/2025 00:34

I've cancelled my sub with Makalu. The service is virtually dead now. It seems the skilled developers have left, and the current team is relying on AI slop that barely works. If you're looking for an AIO, Makalu is not worth it anymore. I recommend finding a different provider

Loxxir44 09/21/2025 04:00

@[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] tell me what is now the best bot for wow? I used last time Rice and I liked it very much but I heard there something happened
Rice is good now?

sansaria21 09/21/2025 09:24

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Originally Posted by Loxxir44 (Post 40378461)
@[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] tell me what is now the best bot for wow? I used last time Rice and I liked it very much but I heard there something happened
Rice is good now?

They had a wave in April but not for the 2pc/Vm setup. Still very strong in my opinion

madbeaver 09/22/2025 04:27

How safe is GGL without the new MetaEngine? Or is it same safety for the most part, just MetaEngine is like less CPU load

1megejas 09/22/2025 09:50

@[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] is there any private rotations writers for ggloader for mop?

tamedbeast 09/22/2025 17:01

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Originally Posted by madbeaver (Post 40381931)
How safe is GGL without the new MetaEngine? Or is it same safety for the most part, just MetaEngine is like less CPU load

Not sure why you would want to use GGL without MetaEngine, but there have been no bans with it in recent times on the pixel version.

madbeaver 09/22/2025 23:52

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast (Post 40382903)
Not sure why you would want to use GGL without MetaEngine, but there have been no bans with it in recent times on the pixel version.

Just so I dont have to fork out close to 600 odd euros at once

tamedbeast 09/23/2025 00:07

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Originally Posted by madbeaver (Post 40383202)
Just so I dont have to fork out close to 600 odd euros at once

Fair enough.

Mrkidd 09/27/2025 07:19

I'm looking to try Paladin (MOP Classic) for GGL, I want to use it for PVE (Heroic Raiding) and PVP to use it to get high rating, who do you reccommend on GGL for that? Thanks in advance for the tip!

tamedbeast 09/27/2025 15:07

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Originally Posted by Mrkidd (Post 40387139)
I'm looking to try Paladin (MOP Classic) for GGL, I want to use it for PVE (Heroic Raiding) and PVP to use it to get high rating, who do you reccommend on GGL for that? Thanks in advance for the tip!

GGL MetaEngine for sure.

I don't play MOP, but I believe Spiken has rotations for it; he pings updates like 30x a day.

olibeniron 09/29/2025 11:54

Not me here reading it and wanting to try sooo badly but being deathly afraid for my main account with a long history.

Sometimes you just... get to the point when time is limited, and you want to make something easier for yourself, and any bot is a spare change, but then you think "but what if I get slapped", and in the end you just watch others from under the safety blanket.

ganewanthu 09/29/2025 12:02

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Originally Posted by Loxxir44 (Post 40378461)
@[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] tell me what is now the best bot for wow? I used last time Rice and I liked it very much but I heard there something happened
Rice is good now?

Rice is best bang for bucks if you want AIO PvE. It's still going strong both 1PC and 2PC setup. I recommend the 2PC-setup if you dont know what you're doing

deststraw 09/29/2025 22:09

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Originally Posted by olibeniron (Post 40388782)
Not me here reading it and wanting to try sooo badly but being deathly afraid for my main account with a long history.

Sometimes you just... get to the point when time is limited, and you want to make something easier for yourself, and any bot is a spare change, but then you think "but what if I get slapped", and in the end you just watch others from under the safety blanket.

use ggl

kazdumbr 10/01/2025 01:15

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast (Post 40387433)
GGL MetaEngine for sure.

I don't play MOP, but I believe Spiken has rotations for it; he pings updates like 30x a day.

What exacly is metaengine?

I used ggl during dragonflight but the setup was terrible and the bot was pretty meh.for what i wanted(arenas)

Elk was vaslty superior, i stopped playing since then

tamedbeast 10/01/2025 01:27

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Originally Posted by kazdumbr (Post 40390014)
What exacly is metaengine?

I used ggl during dragonflight but the setup was terrible and the bot was pretty meh.for what i wanted(arenas)

Elk was vaslty superior, i stopped playing since then

Meta Engine is similar to Wow 1 Button Rotation Assistant, but the GGL uses its own framework. This means you only need to set up the one key you want for the rotation. As a result, you don't need to run any software or third-party applications while playing the game.

However, I believe GGL is quite selective about the users they accept these days. I've seen people get declined from joining GGL because they gave the owners bad vibes.

XenoByte 10/01/2025 23:23

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast (Post 40390018)
Meta Engine is similar to Wow 1 Button Rotation Assistant, but the GGL uses its own framework. This means you only need to set up the one key you want for the rotation. As a result, you don't need to run any software or third-party applications while playing the game.

However, I believe GGL is quite selective about the users they accept these days. I've seen people get declined from joining GGL because they gave the owners bad vibes.

Does this mean I'll have to press the 1 button manually like in OBR?
What about healer rotation?

thaiguy47 10/02/2025 17:00

Hello friends,

Now that add-ons are getting nuked next expac, I'm looking for a new home. I been using basically used a hekili reader for basically since bfa. Now that is gone not sure where to go from here. I was looking at GGL but I'm also not sure how their future is with the addon nuke. Maybe someone like tamedbeast could point me and others to a direction. Would be much appreciated lol

whatmeworr 10/02/2025 18:26

Any link for Rice?

tryyyagain 10/03/2025 03:09

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Originally Posted by thaiguy47 (Post 40391093)
Hello friends,

Now that add-ons are getting nuked next expac, I'm looking for a new home. I been using basically used a hekili reader for basically since bfa. Now that is gone not sure where to go from here. I was looking at GGL but I'm also not sure how their future is with the addon nuke. Maybe someone like tamedbeast could point me and others to a direction. Would be much appreciated lol

Still very early to say but unless the pixel devs knows a good workaround they are pretty much done. And there is not many of them with high IQ. Ayni is very intelligent so he might come up with something. Pixel or not, I think they will continue somehow.
Looks like the internals and unlockers might suffer from the addon nuke as well but I'm not sure about the veracity of this so take it with a big grain of salt.

thaiguy47 10/03/2025 03:19

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Originally Posted by tryyyagain (Post 40391406)
Still very early to say but unless the pixel devs knows a good workaround they are pretty much done. And there is not many of then with high IQ. Ayni is very intelligent so he might come up with something. Pixel or not, I think they will continue somehow.
Looks like the internals and unlockers might suffer from the addon nuke as well but I'm not sure about the veracity of this so take it with a big grain of salt.

Thank you for your response, I guess it's just a waiting game now while the devs figure out what to do during alpha

Engross0344 10/03/2025 22:26

Well, the thing about pixel bots is that they extracted the data from the API and converted it to pixels, right? Now that the API is restricted, the pixel bots need to pull directly from the UI. Some devs might prepare an addon that tweaks the UI in a specific visual way to make it easier for find the necessary values, others might require user to set the coordinates of specific values.

It's certainly possible, but the days of piggybacking on rotation helpers are long gone. Again, the data is still there, it just isn't readily available and necessarily packaged as nicely. Maybe there's a better way, but this is the way I see it happening.

XenoByte 10/04/2025 22:43

Right now, all the data necessary for work is fundamentally inaccessible. There's no legal way to read it. Even if an exploit is found (which I doubt), it will be quickly patched.
I have no experience with unlockers, but it seems like this is the only viable approach for now.

For now, I'm just waiting for alpha/beta access and have started developing a fully visual combat bot.

tamedbeast 10/06/2025 16:24

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Originally Posted by XenoByte (Post 40390674)
Does this mean I'll have to press the 1 button manually like in OBR?
What about healer rotation?

Yes, and it also works on healer rotations.

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Originally Posted by thaiguy47 (Post 40391093)
Hello friends,

Now that add-ons are getting nuked next expac, I'm looking for a new home. I been using basically used a hekili reader for basically since bfa. Now that is gone not sure where to go from here. I was looking at GGL but I'm also not sure how their future is with the addon nuke. Maybe someone like tamedbeast could point me and others to a direction. Would be much appreciated lol

There will be new methods, possibly OCR or memory-based options. They will come, so have no worries.

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Originally Posted by whatmeworr (Post 40391138)
Any link for Rice?

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Originally Posted by Engross0344 (Post 40392065)
Well, the thing about pixel bots is that they extracted the data from the API and converted it to pixels, right? Now that the API is restricted, the pixel bots need to pull directly from the UI. Some devs might prepare an addon that tweaks the UI in a specific visual way to make it easier for find the necessary values, others might require user to set the coordinates of specific values.

It's certainly possible, but the days of piggybacking on rotation helpers are long gone. Again, the data is still there, it just isn't readily available and necessarily packaged as nicely. Maybe there's a better way, but this is the way I see it happening.

Mostly true, API piggybacking is rip bozo, but I'm sure there will be creative ways developers will come up with stuff, but I do have a feeling that most will start using RPM and/or DMA.

fruitmate 11/07/2025 13:57

@[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] I’ve done a lot of research, but I really couldn’t find any stable and well-performing PVE pixel or unlocker for MoP Classic. Do you happen to know or recommend any reliable place?

LDDEN 11/07/2025 16:20

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Originally Posted by fruitmate (Post 40420967)
@[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] I’ve done a lot of research, but I really couldn’t find any stable and well-performing PVE pixel or unlocker for MoP Classic. Do you happen to know or recommend any reliable place?

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