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sansaria21 07/28/2025 18:26

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Originally Posted by huztnan (Post 40337354)
Rice is my favourite so far been using it since release of War within, no ban since the 2pc setup or if you have a good pc you can use VM, its cheap compared to others like 30 a month and you get all the rotations (pve only)

but as always blizzard probably will catch on the 2pc streaming thing soon enough

that might be a task tbh. I dont think that will happen very soon. There is of course always a way, but that could be a real challenge. It feels more like they are aiming for the easy targets and dont really try the challanges

tamedbeast 07/29/2025 02:26

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Originally Posted by huztnan (Post 40337354)
Rice is my favourite so far been using it since release of War within, no ban since the 2pc setup or if you have a good pc you can use VM, its cheap compared to others like 30 a month and you get all the rotations (pve only)

but as always blizzard probably will catch on the 2pc streaming thing soon enough

Extremely unlikely. Blizzard isn't going to ban people for using local programs to connect to their headless computers; this would potentially ban thousands of legitimate players who play the game remotely from work, school, vacation, etc. It just isn't going to happen, and before you make the claim about cloud computing in their TOS, Moonlight/Parsec is not cloud computing; you're only connecting between your own computers and not remote servers that host the game itself. Also, the addons are not using restricted APIs or doing anything that isn't allowed by any public addon. When Blizzard bans users, they try to do it without doubt, and those stars are just not going to align. The best they could do is Machine Learning with those applications, and even then, it's sketchy at best.

Da Chris 07/29/2025 12:26

Suggestions for MOP Classic PVE and PVP
 
I'd like to play Mists of Pandaria Classic. So far, I've always focused on PvE because every time I tried PvP, I just got completely wrecked. What would be the best option for me if I want to play MoP Classic with a focus on PvE, but I wouldn't mind giving PvP another try—especially if I actually had a chance with the help of the Pixelbot?

tamedbeast 07/29/2025 15:05

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Originally Posted by Da Chris (Post 40338405)
I'd like to play Mists of Pandaria Classic. So far, I've always focused on PvE because every time I tried PvP, I just got completely wrecked. What would be the best option for me if I want to play MoP Classic with a focus on PvE, but I wouldn't mind giving PvP another try—especially if I actually had a chance with the help of the Pixelbot?

PVP, I can't give an exact answer, but I know that third-party developers like Spiken and Makulu offer PVP rotations for MoP with GGL. However, I'm not sure if they include every class on MoP. I know they do for retail PVP, but MOP Im not sure.

Da Chris 07/29/2025 15:09

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast (Post 40338505)
PVP, I can't give an exact answer, but I know that third-party developers like Spiken and Makulu offer PVP rotations for MoP with GGL. However, I'm not sure if they include every class on MoP. I know they do for retail PVP, but MOP Im not sure.

And just focusing on PVE? What's your suggestion there? It seems RISE has no support yet for MOP Classic..

tamedbeast 07/29/2025 15:18

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Originally Posted by Da Chris (Post 40338509)
And just focusing on PVE? What's your suggestion there? It seems RISE has no support yet for MOP Classic..

It's still pretty early for PvP stuff; it takes much more time to prepare PvP rotations since it's not just a simple SimC port. But if there was going to be PVP stuff on Pixel, it's going to be GGL.

Da Chris 07/29/2025 16:03

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast (Post 40338515)
It's still pretty early for PvP stuff; it takes much more time to prepare PvP rotations since it's not just a simple SimC port. But if there was going to be PVP stuff on Pixel, it's going to be GGL.

Ok I see, and for PVE? GGL seems very expensive..do you have any experiences how fast Rise will be with supporting a new version like MOP classic?

tamedbeast 07/29/2025 16:35

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Originally Posted by Da Chris (Post 40338535)
Ok I see, and for PVE? GGL seems very expensive..do you have any experiences how fast Rise will be with supporting a new version like MOP classic?

Well, GGL has a long-standing reputation for no bans since 2018, so rightfully they can gatekeep their price.

However, if price is of importance to you, Rice Rotations offers a 2pc setup that works great. They support all PVE rotations for Retail, not really sure if they're doing MOP or not, but you can ask them, but I know they have multiple devs and they work pretty fast with development.

DibDib1234 07/29/2025 21:40

for me the two-piece versions Moonlight / Sunshine and the future, I don’t understand why there is only RiceRotation that makes it:(
It’s a shame that there are others, and that they are not other versions like classic

tamedbeast 07/30/2025 04:33

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Originally Posted by DibDib1234 (Post 40338815)
for me the two-piece versions Moonlight / Sunshine and the future, I don’t understand why there is only RiceRotation that makes it:(
It’s a shame that there are others, and that they are not other versions like classic


There are others, they're just not public.

nerotix 07/31/2025 22:42

Is GGLoader still the best for pvp and safe to use?

tamedbeast 08/01/2025 00:45

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Originally Posted by nerotix (Post 40340122)
Is GGLoader still the best for pvp and safe to use?

Best for PVP for Pixel bots yes.

45aer 08/02/2025 22:53

hi , GGLoader need an unlocker for windows or not ? i need something the more sécure as possible .

tamedbeast 08/03/2025 03:05

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Originally Posted by 45aer (Post 40341461)
hi , GGLoader need an unlocker for windows or not ? i need something the more sécure as possible .

No GGL does not require any unlocker.

Loxxir44 08/05/2025 01:57

What rotations can you use now?

vinziza 08/05/2025 07:22

Good afternoon!
Tell me a bot for farming mobs and dungeons in wotlk (private server).
Thanks!

tamedbeast 08/05/2025 18:15

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Originally Posted by vinziza (Post 40342945)
Good afternoon!
Tell me a bot for farming mobs and dungeons in wotlk (private server).
Thanks!

Dunno, Wrobot maybe. All private servers are different, so I dunno, some are detected, some are not, it's a hit and miss.

Temzarone 08/09/2025 14:32

What would you guys recommend for ascension.gg both farming and pvp?

tamedbeast 08/10/2025 19:01

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Originally Posted by Temzarone (Post 40346123)
What would you guys recommend for ascension.gg both farming and pvp?

Nothing, because you have to custom code everything for your specific build, so unless you're a developer, no point in asking.

If you're a developer, you can try Apep unlocker, its designed for private servers, you can give your hand a try at making your own framework and rotations for Ascension that way.

Stay away from SOE, he will dox you and send your information to server owners. Someone on the forums already showed evidence of this, on top of all of their shit is just AI slop and copy and pasted code from other developers.

Temzarone 08/12/2025 14:45

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast (Post 40347208)
Nothing, because you have to custom code everything for your specific build, so unless you're a developer, no point in asking.

If you're a developer, you can try Apep unlocker, its designed for private servers, you can give your hand a try at making your own framework and rotations for Ascension that way.

Stay away from SOE, he will dox you and send your information to server owners. Someone on the forums already showed evidence of this, on top of all of their shit is just AI slop and copy and pasted code from other developers.

I see, thanks for detailed information, is there anything you can recommend for turtle wow then?

tamedbeast 08/12/2025 22:10

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Originally Posted by Temzarone (Post 40348469)
I see, thanks for detailed information, is there anything you can recommend for turtle wow then?

No idea, I don't play classic, let alone classic private stuff, you will likely need to use Apep unlocker, which is free, and script something.

emreeker23 08/13/2025 21:15

Maxdps was again banned

mefik1 08/16/2025 11:47

Hi,
do You know if GGL supports MOP Classic, also - is it enough to buy "Lifetime" or I will have to also purchase classes? The contact on site is not easy.
Thanks!

swagmonsterx 08/16/2025 14:39

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Originally Posted by mefik1 (Post 40351362)
Hi,
do You know if GGL supports MOP Classic, also - is it enough to buy "Lifetime" or I will have to also purchase classes? The contact on site is not easy.
Thanks!

you can buy life-time which includes all classes AIO, or u can buy individual classes.

tamedbeast 08/17/2025 15:30

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Originally Posted by mefik1 (Post 40351362)
Hi,
do You know if GGL supports MOP Classic, also - is it enough to buy "Lifetime" or I will have to also purchase classes? The contact on site is not easy.
Thanks!

Just so you're aware, rotations and GGL core are two different products. So you will need to buy GGL core, which you can get for a lifetime, and then afterwards you will need to get Rotations from 3rd party developers, which is an extended cost.

It supports MOP, yes.

tryyyagain 08/19/2025 00:35

I would love to see this 'Makulu' dev in another pixel platform, with different business model

tamedbeast 08/19/2025 03:36

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Originally Posted by tryyyagain (Post 40353268)
I would love to see this 'Makulu' dev in another pixel platform, with different business model

But for what purpose, though? Most pixel bots have been detected at least once, if not multiple times, in the last two years. I don't see them doing that; they stay with GGL because of its history of not having detections. While GGL is expensive, you really end up getting what you pay for, given that you have the right developers making the rotations.

For pixels outside of GGL, the best you're going to get on the public end is going to be Rice Rotations, given you use the 2pc version. They're pretty cost-effective considering you get a full suite of rotations made by multiple developers.

Hellofromaus 08/19/2025 05:20

Hey all! Just checking in if there is a recommended rogue bot that performs above average-highly in both mythic plus & raiding? (For retail)

tryyyagain 08/19/2025 08:26

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast (Post 40353341)
But for what purpose, though? Most pixel bots have been detected at least once, if not multiple times, in the last two years. I don't see them doing that; they stay with GGL because of its history of not having detections. While GGL is expensive, you really end up getting what you pay for, given that you have the right developers making the rotations.

For pixels outside of GGL, the best you're going to get on the public end is going to be Rice Rotations, given you use the 2pc version. They're pretty cost-effective considering you get a full suite of rotations made by multiple developers.

I just personally don't like GGL business model. Their charging method is old and not good in my opinion. No one charges you per class you want to play. Just a single fee to use the whole platform. I'm not against having 3rd party devs but a platform which doesn't have good "core" rotations and relies 100% on those devs should not charge you that much.

I use a private pixel which you are aware of and I'm happy about it. But it's sad that if you want to bot on PVP you either go unlocker/internal or go Makulu.
I wish more pixel platforms were investing in pvp.

tamedbeast 08/19/2025 15:56

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Originally Posted by Hellofromaus (Post 40353373)
Hey all! Just checking in if there is a recommended rogue bot that performs above average-highly in both mythic plus & raiding? (For retail)

Ryans Rogue with GGloader is what you want then.

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Originally Posted by tryyyagain (Post 40353419)
I just personally don't like GGL business model. Their charging method is old and not good in my opinion. No one charges you per class you want to play. Just a single fee to use the whole platform. I'm not against having 3rd party devs but a platform which doesn't have good "core" rotations and relies 100% on those devs should not charge you that much.

I use a private pixel which you are aware of and I'm happy about it. But it's sad that if you want to bot on PVP you either go unlocker/internal or go Makulu.
I wish more pixel platforms were investing in pvp.

Of course, I'm not 100% on board with how pricing models work there either; however, this is their business and their decisions at the end of the day. It doesn't diminish the quality of the product, and for some people, quality matters more than the price.

Pixel Bots don't really support PVP because many of the developers aren't PvPers, so they don't understand the basics of creating PVP utilities. That's why you'll have a hard time finding pixel bots that support PVP, since most of the developers who make them aren't PvPers. And many of them aren't even playing the game. Some of them may have played the game at a very basic level at some point. However, the majority of them at this point are either just coding all the time or they simply don't play the game anymore, so they really don't have time to invest in learning. It's not to say that this may not change in the future, but it's highly unlikely that you'll see anything on the level that GGL is in terms of pixels. The closest that even came to do anything was back in the hyper elk days, when they decided to do PVP. Other than that, I have not seen anything.

Sorry, just to add to this, there is that Morpheus rotation, but it's quite expensive for them to set up a custom rotation. At that point, you're better off just spending your money on GGL. They actually have a clientless version that requires no client at all.

LDDEN 08/19/2025 18:48

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Originally Posted by Hellofromaus (Post 40353373)
Hey all! Just checking in if there is a recommended rogue bot that performs above average-highly in both mythic plus & raiding? (For retail)

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nirsnd 08/25/2025 14:46

What happened to the-machina? I used it in dragonflight but after some time of not playing I got kicked from the discord. It had so much potential, probably went private I guess.

tamedbeast 08/25/2025 15:30

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Originally Posted by nirsnd (Post 40358630)
What happened to the-machina? I used it in dragonflight but after some time of not playing I got kicked from the discord. It had so much potential, probably went private I guess.


Yeah, basically, he exiled everybody after it got detected. I have heard, however, that he's been trying to reconnect with customers through his old customer base.

cayman123 08/26/2025 16:26

Im looking for a leveling bot in wow Classic Anniversary.

What possible Bots should i Look for and where should I buy a license?

tamedbeast 08/26/2025 16:39

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Originally Posted by cayman123 (Post 40359401)
Im looking for a leveling bot in wow Classic Anniversary.

What possible Bots should i Look for and where should I buy a license?

To be honest, I'm not 100% sure who makes stuff for Classic Anniversary. I mostly just know retail and MOP stuff. Maybe someone else will know.

cayman123 08/26/2025 17:39

Well it basically is the Same than Classic

flyz3r 08/26/2025 20:44

I recommend staying away from PixelMaster (PM).
I used to be a moderator and profile creator there, initially receiving 5 licenses and later with a lot of begging 10 when I became more active to creator more profiles. Over time, I created and maintained more than 2,000 profiles.

Many of the functions I implemented in my profiles were taken by Innersilence (the bot creator) and directly integrated into the bot. For example automatic training / train all spells functions. Despite my concerns, I continued supporting the project because I liked the bot itself. However, frequent changes were introduced that repeatedly broke my profiles. As a result, I had to rework all 2,000 profiles three to four times without any prior information. This often required overnight work just to keep everything running.

When Mists of Pandaria was released, I immediately started creating new profiles while leveling. Since leveling takes time, I first created basic ground profiles to progress and test properly. I asked Innersilence for additional licenses to test all of them thoroughly before release. Instead of supporting this, he claimed I had not done enough over the past two years—despite the fact that I had built 2,000 profiles, provided Discord support in his absence, and even helped customers remotely via TeamViewer.

After that, he reduced my licenses to just one, effectively cutting off his only remaining supporter. At that point, I decided to disable my profiles. He then removed me from Discord, revoked my content creator status on the website, and re-enabled my profiles in the shop under my name without permission. When I confronted him, his only response was to call me a child. So he is basically stealing my work from 2 years.

In my view, this is nothing less than using my work without consent. I strongly suspect he will eventually rename the creator tag to himself. As mentioned, maintaining 2,000 profiles is an enormous amount of work—something he never seemed to acknowledge.

This message is not meant as a rant but as a fair warning to anyone considering using this bot, or to those I may have recommended it to in the past.

cayman123 08/26/2025 22:46

I want to give SIN bot a try. Does anyone have a advice where I can get a official license?

tamedbeast 08/26/2025 22:53

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Originally Posted by cayman123 (Post 40359685)
I want to give SIN bot a try. Does anyone have a advice where I can get a official license?

Wait, before you do that.. I must warn you that using sin has a 100% ban rate. It's primarily used for mass botting for profit, with no other purpose.

I'm not 100% sure what you're planning on doing in Anniversary, but if it's just rotations, I WOULD NOT use it. I would recommend using something else instead if you can find it.

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Originally Posted by cayman123 (Post 40359401)
Im looking for a leveling bot in wow Classic Anniversary.

What possible Bots should i Look for and where should I buy a license?

I just reread this. You're looking for a leveling bot.

Well, this is tricky, afk bots right now are sketchy af, as heuristics these days are on point.

But if you must, you can use Baneto, or GMR, I'm sure both of those support leveling, they support both Mac and Windows Unlockers.

But the risk is high to afk bot, just a fair warning.

cayman123 08/26/2025 22:58

Well thats kind of a good advice lol, i was planning to level up a new character from 1-60 since i want to enjoy endgame but dont have the time any more for the leveling process

What other bots can you recommend?

I already read about GGL but I dont like paying for every single piece of the bot

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast (Post 40359687)
I just reread this. You're looking for a leveling bot.

Well, this is tricky, afk bots right now are sketchy af, as heuristics these days are on point.

But if you must, you can use Baneto, or GMR, I'm sure both of those support leveling, they support both Mac and Windows Unlockers.

But the risk is high to afk bot, just a fair warning.

How come that bots have become worse over time?
I used to bot in the honorbuddy era and it was just amazing seeing how well it was functioning. I can't believe that nobody else after bosslands downfall was able to revive this scene. Is it that the blizzard detection has become better?

And I'll take a look into Baneto. Tbh i also wanted to use my main account for botting but reading more about this I dont think its a good idea nowadays


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