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Well, the first thing I’ll say is it’s a good thing you didn't really waste your time with Morphueus. It’s overly expensive, it requires them to set it up manually, you can’t just move from computer to computer without having to complete the whole setup process again, the price only includes one spec, and it’s only good for the expansion. Then you have to pay again. And to top it off, they're just using addons like TMW and AHK to accomplish their goals, so there’s nothing unique or user-friendly about their product. That’s on top of the ridiculous pricing compared to other options that have all the quality of life anyone could ever want.

I see you mentioned you had a Mac, and I actually know of something in private testing right now that supports Mac. So if you're interested in that, feel free to send me a message, and I'll hook you up.

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GGL's website seems overly complicated (what do i select to buy :thinking: ) and looks like they dont support dev evoker, can u confirm or have they just not updated in forever?

I think it's kinda supported, but not officially, like the 3rd party devs have kinda jimmy rigged some stuff together for that to work. Best to talk with the customer service of GGL for official confirmation on that, though. Too many things for me to keep track of.

Devastation Evoker is fully supported by Makulu, Spiken, and Fruit.

If you're only interested in Evoker, here's how to buy:

1. Go to GGL's website.
   
2. Enter your information.
   
3. Check the "Retail Evoker" box.
   
4. For "Subscriptions," your first month is included with your first class purchase so since you’re buying Evoker, you get one month free.
   
5. Complete payment.

Once you’ve received your confirmation email and joined the customer Discord, you can request Evoker trials from Makulu, Spiken, or Fruit. Test each one out, see which you like best, then subscribe to their rotation.

(Crossposting my review of MaxDPS from their own post)

EDIT: Nvm just tried it today on Sheilun MoP server and it was just a mess, unsure if its p-server related tho

Don't think I left a review back when I used it around Shadowlands I think, and most of these posts lack proper reviews, so I thought I left mine:


I've used the software couple of times across years for various expansions/p-servers, as well as classes/specs, both paid and free trials.

I heard they had their (first?) detection wave a while ago, tho I have to say that my accounts (that I used them on back in Shadowlands actively + various classic servers/expansions) had no issues ban-wise.

The upside is that it is very simple/dumb.
Afaik, it has a very hard fixed prio-list that you cannot change (sadly) and it just presses the buttons that you manually entered before for each spell.
If a spell has no keybind, it won't use the spell.

I found it a bit wonkey at times, because the built in short pause is sometimes a bit odd/I sometimes felt like I would prefer more active and smoother ON/OFF control.

And I would've also enjoyed if I had a simple prio that I could edit myself.

IMO it was kinda tricky/difficult/or impossible to really get in touch with devs, or to interact in their forum, as it was purely Russian.

I think it performs well for actually new/bad players, as the rotiations were usually okay-ish.

The main use that I used it for, was for leveling/grinding, when I didn't want to press the same limited amount of spells over and over and over again, and it also didn't matter much if the rotation wasn't really refined, as it just had to do okay for me to chill and watch Netflix/Youtube.

I also used it as a simple auto-kick, by just only binding my kick-spell and leaving the other stuff unbound.
That way I could play manually, but had a reliable auto-kick.

I haven't checked the current price, I think it was only a couple of bucks for a month for 1 spec (or could've been class?), and back then at least it was so "clunky" that it flew under the radar for years, and did it's job well enough.

I'm actually trying it out again now because I will level a couple of chars on a MoP P-Server so I'm prepared for Classic MoP launch.

(Actually as I'm writing this, I just checked the prices)
I think they went up in price a decent amount, but are still the cheapest around, and should be pretty safe if the one wave after all these years was a fluke.

Some may find the rotations to be really good, I just speak from a very picky point of view as I raided mythic at T100 level and love to theorycraft/parse hard, which this software obviously isn't meant for.

TL;DR: In my experience, you get something that performs at around a 6.5/10 for a 8.5/10 price, with a (before the ban wave, that I wasn't apart of) 9.5/10 security.


Other posters might correct me if there have been more ban-waves than the one I heard of, or if anything else has drastically changed.

(Always accepting trial keys from the devs, if they think something improved, or if I misrepresented the current state of the product :> )

most pixel bots dont work well on private servers cause of modified API's and also mismatching in a lot of the spell data.

Perfect, thats exactly what i was after with this kinda bot does it have options to hold CDs etc? and also how much are the 3rd party rotations, 75 for the GGL then how much for the other rotations?

yes they have a toggleable burst mode.

most rotation providers charge 20usd per month for one class and ca 50usd per month for all classes.

Yes, it's fully customizable. It includes developer-supported smart cooldown usage that can be toggled on or off, and you can also set specific CDs to hold based on your preferences.

3rd party developers have their own pricing. I recommend joining their individual Discord servers once you're a member to check prices, request trials, and ask questions directly.

i used to many of this shiit MAXDPS, aimsharp , Elk Hyper with some Unlocker (i don't remember the name ) and i got banned in multiple account if u need safe and good rotation go with (Morpheus) i palyed now 1years and half without any problems and 0 banned

How much did they pay you to come and say that?

It would be great if things were as you say.. or if it is true, I would have opened several accounts and praised all the programs present here and earned money without any significant effort.... Be logical and realistic and leave the talk of children and idiots... I am talking about my experience with these programs and it is up to you whether you want to believe it or not... But all the programs that I mentioned and everyone knows that they got a wave of banned and it is a private experience for me and was not known to anyone else... So I wish you good luck if your thinking is in this irrational and illogical way

Okay cool.

Curious about the subscriptions and I have never really been able to understand GGL's shop. Would appreciate if you could bring a smooth brain such as myself up to speed.

In the quoted example. the user is purchasing
1. GGL's Evoker rotation (one time charge)
2. The monthly subscription (first month free since they bought Evoker)
3. Potentially a community rotation from one of the devs working with Evoker.

If my thinking is correct, is it possible to just pay the subscription and buy a community rotation? Or is it just "Pay 75 for the default rotation so you can...buy a better evoker rotation from one of the community devs"

1. To be honest, I don't really understand their shop; it's a Russian thing, they like to make these over-complicated, non-straightforward pricing models with 30 different options, unlike your typical Westerner style of pricing. You're best to speak to them directly and get an answer, but understanding it is like Russian Roulette, I looked at it the other day for someone, and I didn't understand it at all. I've had a lifetime sub for a long time, so I can't even remember how it all works. I think I paid almost 800 euros back in the day for an All-in-One Lifetime Private.

2. Makulu Rotations with GGL makes a really good evoker, I have been playing it, even though it was designed for PVP, it works very well in PVE mythic+. There is Spiken, but I don't know if it's good or not. I haven't used his stuff.

I wish GGL has an easier checkout process. They seem to only accept bitcoin and checking out with bitcoin has to be from a wallet thats listed- i cant just send an amount to an address. Can anyone walk me through this.

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Are you familiar what happened with Aimsharp?
Seems like not too long ago they had banwave but think they downplayed and suddenly last week was sold or transffered to new ownership?? Under name Inferno(Seems like same software just new skin),,,Which looks like is also having a banwave going right now...

I saw they just had a pretty big banwave event. I don't really know the story behind what happened and why they transferred the name, or what the real reason was, but it seems it has been detected for quite a while, as many of the bans were on users who didn't even use it for several weeks.

It's possible you're right, it's possible you're wrong; I really don't know. But at least they didn't exit-scam - they stay around, honouring people's lifetime subs. What they do next is up to them, I guess.

For sure. They did honor my lifetime membership but it seems Inferno got hit very quick. it was announced few days ago and already got bans.

Oh Well.

Well, Inferno and Aimsharp are the same product, so if you used one, you used the other. Nothing has changed there, just the branding and quite possibly a new developer, but that part I don't know 100%, but it sure seems like it considering changelogs were dead forever, and suddenly there are changelogs daily for fixes after the product rebrand, why now? I dunno, all seems odd to me, but at least they're doing stuff, whatever the scenario is.

I can't find alot of info outside of this thread/your review Tamed about NN.
Even having signed up on their website i cant join their discord without buying something... Im not buying something i can't see :)

So what do NN offer - is it just an unlocker then further dev rotations?

There is a Discord invite code ( DXTxCGqE2X ) on my other thread that's also pinned to this section.

They just made some announcements about the MOP rotation release today and their new marketplace. Basically $20 for NN advanced, and $10 for the rotations for Retail and MOP, supports all classes and specs for PVE.

Oh, just noticed too. Seems like they give some free 4h trial, that can be claimed every 30 days with a valid NN license key, didn't even notice that till just now.

You're paying a one-time class license fee to access the loader, which includes a free Evoker rotation (Mimic).

If you're a very casual player, this free rotation can handle basic gameplay. However, for any content that involves real decision-making like Arenas, Raids, or Mythic+ it is strongly recommended to purchase a third-party rotation from one of the many developers who offer them.

Think of it like a house:

Class license fee = the house itself
Loader subscription = maintenance and utility bills
3rd party rotations = upgrades and enhancements to the house

Are you in the pre-purchase Discord? If so, reach out to Robin, he can help with any questions or issues related to purchasing.

Can someone help me get to GGLoaders? Pre-order discord is down. Or doesn’t exist. Robin doesn’t accept Friend or DM. No answer to emails.

Help!

Did you get this figured out? If not, send me your Discord and I’ll pass it along to him so he can accept your request.

Messaged him twice in the last 7 days and no response for the free trial

A free trial likely isn’t available at the moment, as it’s not offered continuously. Some weeks have free trials, while others don’t.

All MaxDPS Assistants for MoP were fully updated on June 20 - the rotations were rewritten based on the latest SimulationCraft profiles and the most up-to-date class guides. I recommend giving the latest versions another try.

Keep in mind that proper functionality is guaranteed only on Blizzlike servers. If you're testing on a server where admins have heavily modified spells or added custom abilities, you shouldn't expect perfect performance.

If you're playing on MoP private servers, those versions of the assistants are completely free to use until July 21.

For official servers, each version comes with a free 24-hour trial period.

Interested to hear your thoughts/views on Arduino boards/bots??

I feel they are fairly new?

Just made the purchase yesterday on their website as I was instructed to do so. Never got an email confirmation. Live chat has not replied. Both admins/supports (ayni,robin) on the discord has been on/off and have been not replying to my messages. So far 9+ hours, no delivery of product.

If you haven’t received your instructions yet, send me your Discord ID and I’ll pass it along to Robin.

Also, make sure to check your spam folder as it often ends up there.

becarful guys this maxdps really shit and he will Rip your money and run away im sure he did 1 time for me and he only support on Telgram he thiv

1. Proof - I want to see a screenshot of this
2. What does "I'm sure he did 1 time" ??? So you're not sure?


I've personally known the developer of MaxDps for over a decade, and I can assure you that he is no scam artist. He's an honest and hardworking guy.

So if you're going to come out in public and claim such a thing, share screenshots of this conversation along with the handle of the Telegram account you're talking to.

Actually not new at all, I remember using mine back in 2018 on some super shit pixel bot that was owned by Winifix, before he became a disgrace to the WoW scene.

So maybe a noob question, do these bots assist with playing or are they like piloting 100%?

I just got back into WoW, wanting something that can give me an edge but NOT in the market for a bot that will require me to basically not even touch my PC as it runs.

Most Pixel bots require you to move around using WSAD.

For current retail wich rotation provider would you suggest for high m+ and raid mythic Healers( resto druid mainly) ty

sir when you say "most" meaning there are some that acutally WASD for you?

Ya, pixel FARM bots, not rotation bots.

Depends, there is GGL and Ricerotations.

GGL is good, but a little expensive upfront and monthly if you want rotations, but for PVP it's excellent, and for PVE stuff it's pretty good.

Rice is good if you have a 2pc setup, it's low cost but has good rotations.

I know a couple of different private ones, too, that are not publicly available. You can message me for more info.

Rice is my favourite so far been using it since release of War within, no ban since the 2pc setup or if you have a good pc you can use VM, its cheap compared to others like 30 a month and you get all the rotations (pve only)

but as always blizzard probably will catch on the 2pc streaming thing soon enough