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jibiox 11/02/2024 14:33

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Originally Posted by zerogott (Post 40110694)
2 People in here reported that rice is detected within the last 7 days.
There are also reports in their discord.

So it got clearly detected in the banwave from last week.

2 people here and a couple of players in the discord while 95% of the other users are fine?. Yeah rice clearly isnt detected a LOT more people would be banned otherwise. those people that did get banned probably ran something else or bought gold

alo13371337 11/02/2024 19:48

Hi guys,
I was trying/checking a lot of combat rotation bots, but none of them seem to be working on pservers as Warmane.
Any advice, where in which project I can look into?
MaxDPS Assistant for example, which is called as "working on private servers" is not working on Warmane, as it seem not to be blizzlike enough.
Many thanks!

tamedbeast 11/02/2024 21:12

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Originally Posted by alo13371337 (Post 40113989)
Hi guys,
I was trying/checking a lot of combat rotation bots, but none of them seem to be working on pservers as Warmane.
Any advice, where in which project I can look into?
MaxDPS Assistant for example, which is called as "working on private servers" is not working on Warmane, as it seem not to be blizzlike enough.
Many thanks!

What do you mean it dont work on Warmane? Are they blocking WinApi?

Also there are some others out there, but you don't find them on this forum. Mostly owned by some Russian/Ukrainians. If you need a discord link, just shoot me a message.

alo13371337 11/02/2024 21:50

I sent you a message :-)
For all: It seems that MaxDPS does not work on Warmane as it is not a Blizzlike Server. As a Warlock, it was not executing my rotation properly. Was just casting first DOT, then over and over casting first dot again. Sometimes it was wanding, sometimes it was lifetapping in a loop.

tamedbeast 11/02/2024 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by alo13371337 (Post 40113989)
Hi guys,
I was trying/checking a lot of combat rotation bots, but none of them seem to be working on pservers as Warmane.
Any advice, where in which project I can look into?
MaxDPS Assistant for example, which is called as "working on private servers" is not working on Warmane, as it seem not to be blizzlike enough.
Many thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by alo13371337 (Post 40114064)
I sent you a message :-)
For all: It seems that MaxDPS does not work on Warmane as it is not a Blizzlike Server. As a Warlock, it was not executing my rotation properly. Was just casting first DOT, then over and over casting first dot again. Sometimes it was wanding, sometimes it was lifetapping in a loop.

Some private servers had custom-modified APIs, and many spell IDs are problematic. This can create issues with rotation bots unless specifically designed for those servers.

jibiox 11/03/2024 13:49

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Originally Posted by nevenias (Post 40110972)
As it stands, a couple isolated bannings is nothing to get worked up over.

That being said, I'm a Rice user and based on the suggestions and recommendations from this thread I went and bought GGLoader and a couple profiles.

Yes its a huge PITA to get going. There's a specific dev who authors a rotation that has a custom loader for keybinding and macro creation. It certainly minimizes the work to get things going, but it doesn't remove it. GGLoader is very dated, and to be frank, of the 6 specs I tried, logged and tested, every single one of them were behind Rice.

But more so than just being "behind" on the logs (both DPS and DTPS) the functionality of GGLoader is years behind on things like @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...], @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] and even any macro's with modifiers can be either unable to be used, or broken.

Simple things like Taunting, instead of a @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] taunt, the client will tab through targets until it gets to the target you've lost threat on, taunt, then go back to your current target. From what I read, there is a way to mark, auto focus, then taunt focus, but setting up even simple macro's is such an effort, I didn't bother trying this 'feature'

Want to kick? You need half a dozen keybindings. K, thats hyperbole, but point is its an absolute gong show. Something as simple as a mouseover kick from what I can tell, isn't possible without paying them 50 bucks to set up for you.

Even when you do get comfortable with creating the keybindings on the GGL client, making the Macro's BP, there's numerous skills that you have keybind in game to different skills in the client. They dont have something as simple as ThunderClap able to be keybound and macro'd. You have to bind it to a different skill, its almost amateur hour over there.

I will say their Customer Service, GGL CS, is phenomenal. Was helpful, polite, quick to reply, and an absolute pleasure speaking with.

I spent 100s of dollars getting GGL and the rotations. It was a complete waste of money.

Anyone interested in PvE GGL I'd say stay far away. Its dated, acts like a unlocker with client and rotations being separate, needs 4 or so addons to work, the 3rd party devs who write PvE tanking rotations, they range from dated and poor, to recently updated and poor. They're behind in every single metric that matters in terms of DPS, DTPS, Healing vs Rice.

I didn't try PvP, I still might, from what I understand they're the best PvP Pixel Rotation available. So thats interesting, but based on the PvE experience, the set up experience, the macro/addon/keybinding experience, I'm not expecting much.


I haven't tried any other Pixel Bots other than Elk, Rice and GGL. I'm always open to trying great rotations though. But without question Rice is the best one I've tried.

Hopefully those isolated bannings are just that, and not something bigger.

I was thinking of trying GGL, as a current rice user thanks for your review i'll stick with rice, GGL has to be the most overhyped rota ever

hkd1121 11/05/2024 05:58

true
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jibiox (Post 40110688)
Stop spreading bullshit Rice is pumping

It's true, about 10-15 players got banned and it was posted on Discord.

Of course, not all users were banned, so it is not called detecting, but it is true that they were banned.

Notyourfriend69 11/06/2024 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by nevenias (Post 40110972)
As it stands, a couple isolated bannings is nothing to get worked up over.

That being said, I'm a Rice user and based on the suggestions and recommendations from this thread I went and bought GGLoader and a couple profiles.

Yes its a huge PITA to get going. There's a specific dev who authors a rotation that has a custom loader for keybinding and macro creation. It certainly minimizes the work to get things going, but it doesn't remove it. GGLoader is very dated, and to be frank, of the 6 specs I tried, logged and tested, every single one of them were behind Rice.

But more so than just being "behind" on the logs (both DPS and DTPS) the functionality of GGLoader is years behind on things like @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...], @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] and even any macro's with modifiers can be either unable to be used, or broken.

Simple things like Taunting, instead of a @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] taunt, the client will tab through targets until it gets to the target you've lost threat on, taunt, then go back to your current target. From what I read, there is a way to mark, auto focus, then taunt focus, but setting up even simple macro's is such an effort, I didn't bother trying this 'feature'

Want to kick? You need half a dozen keybindings. K, thats hyperbole, but point is its an absolute gong show. Something as simple as a mouseover kick from what I can tell, isn't possible without paying them 50 bucks to set up for you.

Even when you do get comfortable with creating the keybindings on the GGL client, making the Macro's BP, there's numerous skills that you have keybind in game to different skills in the client. They dont have something as simple as ThunderClap able to be keybound and macro'd. You have to bind it to a different skill, its almost amateur hour over there.

I will say their Customer Service, GGL CS, is phenomenal. Was helpful, polite, quick to reply, and an absolute pleasure speaking with.

I spent 100s of dollars getting GGL and the rotations. It was a complete waste of money.

Anyone interested in PvE GGL I'd say stay far away. Its dated, acts like a unlocker with client and rotations being separate, needs 4 or so addons to work, the 3rd party devs who write PvE tanking rotations, they range from dated and poor, to recently updated and poor. They're behind in every single metric that matters in terms of DPS, DTPS, Healing vs Rice.

I didn't try PvP, I still might, from what I understand they're the best PvP Pixel Rotation available. So thats interesting, but based on the PvE experience, the set up experience, the macro/addon/keybinding experience, I'm not expecting much.


I haven't tried any other Pixel Bots other than Elk, Rice and GGL. I'm always open to trying great rotations though. But without question Rice is the best one I've tried.

Hopefully those isolated bannings are just that, and not something bigger.

I find your experience really interesting, as someone who's currently using ggl, and did try Rice, for me ggl performs way better, im currently top 50 prot tank on na using a certain prot warrior profile from a dev, and i have multiple high ranking rogue logs as well. all of them which have performed way better then rice ever did for me. now i can't deny ggl does feel outdated in some aspects, but as long as you go with a dev that doesn't try to do everything at once you'll have a great experience.

nevenias 11/08/2024 09:58

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Originally Posted by Notyourfriend69 (Post 40116952)
I find your experience really interesting, as someone who's currently using ggl, and did try Rice, for me ggl performs way better, im currently top 50 prot tank on na using a certain prot warrior profile from a dev, and i have multiple high ranking rogue logs as well. all of them which have performed way better then rice ever did for me. now i can't deny ggl does feel outdated in some aspects, but as long as you go with a dev that doesn't try to do everything at once you'll have a great experience.

There may be some amount of comfort with the GGL client, addons, ect which you benefit from. In terms of performance, I logged dozens upon dozens of runs and every single one without fail Rice performed better than GGL, specifically Prot Warrior which is my "Rice main"

Would also add in my experience, the devs at Rice if you have a good suggestion they'll straight up implement it that day. Not all devs obviously, there's one Dev who used to write for Elk who's still a bit slow on things, but for the most part devs there are phenomenal.

Every single spec is updated and current. Tanks, healers, everything. I dont think the same can be said for GGL or any other provider tbh. Without slamming down more cash for yet another profile, that requires yet another addon, that may or may-not have keybindings, ect ect.


Anyways, clearly your happy and performing well and thats awesome. If its been some amount of time since you've tried Rice, I highly suggest it. I think you'd be shocked.

The Prot Pally rotation is legit absurd right now. Prot Warrior too.

tryyyagain 11/13/2024 03:00

some people saying aimsharp and rice got hit today

TheProvider 11/13/2024 04:43

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Originally Posted by tryyyagain (Post 40121381)
some people saying aimsharp and rice got hit today

Yeah for Rice wasn't really a small quite a bit got banned

ddoim 11/13/2024 09:51

Rice got banned
 
Rice got banned
I've been using TWW since it was launched. And today it's finally banned

0x41^4 11/13/2024 12:01

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Originally Posted by ddoim (Post 40121527)
Rice got banned
I've been using TWW since it was launched. And today it's finally banned

You say "finally" like they had a good run, but Rice is HyperElk's rebrand. This is now their 5th ban wave. They only lasted 2 months under a new alias, lol.

Better off running an unlocker at that point.

Damnright 11/13/2024 13:47

A lot of rice users got banned, yeah. But a lot aren't banned and are still running.

No one knows what the banned had in common (yet). I used rice for 2 weeks now and I'm not banned. Other are using it for months and aren't banned either. Some used it for only the last 3 days and are banned.

Damdor 11/13/2024 17:18

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Originally Posted by Damnright (Post 40121631)
A lot of rice users got banned, yeah. But a lot aren't banned and are still running.

No one knows what the banned had in common (yet). I used rice for 2 weeks now and I'm not banned. Other are using it for months and aren't banned either. Some used it for only the last 3 days and are banned.

It's called a ban wave.
These accounts are likely already flagged and will be banned soon.
The same approach was used with lua unlockers , there were multiple waves of bans to keep users guessing about what triggered them.

Damnright 11/13/2024 20:54

"to keep users guessing about what triggered them" - is this your estimated guess or just a shot in the blue?

Lunsjkake 11/14/2024 00:50

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Originally Posted by Damnright (Post 40121957)
"to keep users guessing about what triggered them" - is this your estimated guess or just a shot in the blue?

It is literally how Blizzard always have handled every single ban wave against botters like us. Lmao

tamedbeast 11/14/2024 01:40

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Originally Posted by 0x41^4 (Post 40121578)
You say "finally" like they had a good run, but Rice is HyperElk's rebrand. This is now their 5th ban wave. They only lasted 2 months under a new alias, lol.

Better off running an unlocker at that point.


:kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw:

Knew there was a reason why they got left off this list.

You know whats crazier, even MaxDps has better safety.

0x41^4 11/14/2024 03:11

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast (Post 40122150)
:kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw:

Knew there was a reason why they got left off this list.

You know whats crazier, even MaxDps has better safety.

I would wager that it still has the same signatures that he used for Elk, because I know for a fact it wasn't changed between detection 2 and 3. All that's changed is probably the UI.

tamedbeast 11/14/2024 04:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0x41^4 (Post 40121578)
You say "finally" like they had a good run, but Rice is HyperElk's rebrand. This is now their 5th ban wave. They only lasted 2 months under a new alias, lol.

Better off running an unlocker at that point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0x41^4 (Post 40122186)
I would wager that it still has the same signatures that he used for Elk, because I know for a fact it wasn't changed between detection 2 and 3. All that's changed is probably the UI.

Meanwhile, GGL discord is nice and quiet no worries.

shivaistaken 11/14/2024 04:15

@[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] ggl safe to use atm ?

tamedbeast 11/14/2024 04:24

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Originally Posted by shivaistaken (Post 40122206)
@[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] ggl safe to use atm ?

Yes sir, it has been for a very long time.

shivaistaken 11/14/2024 04:49

I want to buy GGLoader; I selected the private version on the website. At the same time, I also want to get community specs from Discord. If I only buy the GGLoader private version, can I still use the community developers' rotations to play? The purchasing process still seems quite complicated, and I don’t fully understand it. Could you help me with it? @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

tamedbeast 11/14/2024 05:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by shivaistaken (Post 40122206)
@[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] ggl safe to use atm ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shivaistaken (Post 40122223)
I want to buy GGLoader; I selected the private version on the website. At the same time, I also want to get community specs from Discord. If I only buy the GGLoader private version, can I still use the community developers' rotations to play? The purchasing process still seems quite complicated, and I don’t fully understand it. Could you help me with it? @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]


I'm not really the person to speak to about their prices and what is free and not free. I would suggest talking to their customer service as they're far more equipped to help you with those questions.

hkd1121 11/14/2024 06:35

lol rice ban
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jibiox (Post 40114432)
I was thinking of trying GGL, as a current rice user thanks for your review i'll stick with rice, GGL has to be the most overhyped piece of garbage there is with those prices



zzzz zzz lol

TheProvider 11/14/2024 19:56

Damage control now

wolleh 11/18/2024 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by tamedbeast (Post 40122150)
:kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw:

Knew there was a reason why they got left off this list.

You know whats crazier, even MaxDps has better safety.

I have the feeling that you once spoke quite positively about Rice in another thread. If I am mistaken, my apologies. However, I wonder why you don't list Rice as a 'negative example' to protect users. It's a bit disappointing...

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0x41^4 (Post 40122186)
I would wager that it still has the same signatures that he used for Elk, because I know for a fact it wasn't changed between detection 2 and 3. All that's changed is probably the UI.

It is unfortunate that you did not warn about the risks of Rice. In the past weeks and months, Rice has gained many users due to its price-performance ratio. If you have insider information and are sure that no changes have been made since the HyperElk fiasco, it is disappointing

tamedbeast 11/18/2024 20:53

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Originally Posted by wolleh (Post 40125844)
I have the feeling that you once spoke quite positively about Rice in another thread. If I am mistaken, my apologies. However, I wonder why you don't list Rice as a 'negative example' to protect users. It's a bit disappointing...



It is unfortunate that you did not warn about the risks of Rice. In the past weeks and months, Rice has gained many users due to its price-performance ratio. If you have insider information and are sure that no changes have been made since the HyperElk fiasco, it is disappointing


Times change, and so do opinions, an opinion is not always something that is static. I never put them into my reviews and didn't plan on it.

Regarding your other quote about the other person, it's not really their responsibility to inform anyone, especially if they lack evidence to support their claims. Knowing something from insiders is one thing, but proving it to the public is another. They have their own reputation to uphold, and making unfounded claims based on hearsay wouldn't reflect well on them. Additionally, this matter may not be of interest to them at all.

eckz716 11/18/2024 21:30

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast (Post 40122150)
:kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw::kekw:

Knew there was a reason why they got left off this list.

You know whats crazier, even MaxDps has better safety.

i guess maxdps did not infact have better safety....

wolleh 11/18/2024 21:33

seems maxdps got waved now.

tamedbeast 11/18/2024 21:34

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Originally Posted by eckz716 (Post 40125889)
i guess maxdps did not infact have better safety....

Yup, it was more of a joke, not to be actually taken seriously, it was sarcasm. However, at least MaxDPS did last over 8 years without bans, unlike others that can't even last a year. :lul:

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolleh (Post 40125893)
seems maxdps got waved now.

Yes, I've seen that. I actually updated its status a little while ago. They had a good long run, I think since the end of Legion.

Binzonesgg 11/18/2024 22:38

I think there are no options. Every year being banned is bad. I think it's time to stop with wow. Max was good.
F

tamedbeast 11/19/2024 00:22

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Originally Posted by Binzonesgg (Post 40125935)
I think there are no options. Every year being banned is bad. I think it's time to stop with wow. Max was good.
F

Yeah, it is what it is, it's disappointing, but thats just how it goes in the scene. Some will leave and others will come. It's not over, it's just going to be a new era.

ddoim 11/19/2024 04:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolleh (Post 40125844)
I have the feeling that you once spoke quite positively about Rice in another thread. If I am mistaken, my apologies. However, I wonder why you don't list Rice as a 'negative example' to protect users. It's a bit disappointing...



It is unfortunate that you did not warn about the risks of Rice. In the past weeks and months, Rice has gained many users due to its price-performance ratio. If you have insider information and are sure that no changes have been made since the HyperElk fiasco, it is disappointing

rice before the banwave actually overwhelmed the performance of all platforms
I think all the platforms mentioned here will all get banwave
too public

tamedbeast 11/19/2024 05:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddoim (Post 40126069)
rice before the banwave actually overwhelmed the performance of all platforms
I think all the platforms mentioned here will all get banwave
too public

I mean every one of these in the reviews has long-standing websites, and marketing on forums, these are not hidden projects. Everyone gets caught in the end some just faster than others.

Luccione 11/19/2024 23:59

something good for classic @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]?

tamedbeast 11/20/2024 00:15

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Originally Posted by Luccione (Post 40126713)
something good for classic @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]?

Right now for pixel, I'm not 100% sure, GGL Supports Classic, but I'm not sure to what extent exactly, you would need to speak with them. As well Rotation Labs might also support it, but once again I'm not 100% on that as well, I have not used Rotation Labs in a long while.

Luccione 11/20/2024 10:54

okay, thx for helping

oskisdaking 11/20/2024 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luccione (Post 40126953)
okay, thx for helping

you found something that works for classic? :) let me know pls

sparxxxx1 11/20/2024 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by tamedbeast (Post 40126728)
Right now for pixel, I'm not 100% sure, GGL Supports Classic, but I'm not sure to what extent exactly, you would need to speak with them. As well Rotation Labs might also support it, but once again I'm not 100% on that as well, I have not used Rotation Labs in a long while.

RL is SoD only. Works a bit on classic but wouldn't recommend


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