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azncdn 10/18/2013 03:09

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Originally Posted by azncdn (Post 25470541)
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iSnoOze 10/18/2013 03:13

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Originally Posted by jlfbalo (Post 25470317)
Problem about adding last tier items is that it will be just +2 lower than som and since its on the npc obtainable with gold people will +9/+10 in no time but no the other hand since som is too expensive you cant try to +9 just like that so in the end som will be kinda useless. Unless, last tier ítems prize is expensive so people cant just buy them that easy to try +X

Don't think you quite understand. When people have moon weapons, the damage they hit our 64-69 sets will be massive, they will 1 shot all nukers and probably 2 shot str's

baskete 10/18/2013 03:33

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Originally Posted by tomek10 (Post 25466769)
Didnt saw server before where even first Snow Shield isn`t allowed for STR.
Yea Snow shield is available for STR so what? Every smart STR just keep first Snow because of low mana. Do u have butt hurt?
Snow shield should be allowed for every1 even STR chars thats all.
GTG work, bye.

Only the first snow shield should be allowed for Pure STR, because:
First: Any Pure STR can use the last Snow Shield if they want. Mana is not a problem, just set it at 99% and be immortal for 2 minutes;
Second: If you have never seen a server in which only the first Snow Shield is allowed for Pure STRs I guess you must be new here, please don't talk too much about things you have no clue about.


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Originally Posted by Carillon (Post 25467905)
Killing LY was fun without stucking, we've made it with auto eq gear so I dont see any problem. Pvping with this gear is also balanced. Making last tier gear in NPC will just cause rich people to buy shitload of weapons and will be running with +8/9/10's and not with SoM's

Yeah, I've killed Lord legit with 64-69 gear too - it sucked and the 64 weapons are just too weak. Of course PvPing with this gear is balanced, everyone has the same one roflmfao. Silkroad is all about pimping your gear, you must hate alchemy or something so, yeah, your argument is invalid.

About the "rich people" thing you said, the one thing I can agree with you is that people might buy 100 weapons and auto-fuse until they get a lucky +8, +9 or whatever. If they would drop from level 72+ mobs would be better but, whatever, it's not gonna be cheap, hopefully.


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Originally Posted by jlfbalo (Post 25470317)
Problem about adding last tier items is that it will be just +2 lower than som and since its on the npc obtainable with gold people will +9/+10 in no time but no the other hand since som is too expensive you cant try to +9 just like that so in the end som will be kinda useless. Unless, last tier ítems prize is expensive so people cant just buy them that easy to try +X

You clearly have no idea what's the difference between SoM gear and normal gear if you think SoM won't be worth it.
I agree with the +9/+10 part so let's hope these items will be expensive so people can't buy one hundred pieces and alchemy all night.


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Originally Posted by iSnoOze (Post 25470558)
Don't think you quite understand. When people have moon weapons, the damage they hit our 64-69 sets will be massive, they will 1 shot all nukers and probably 2 shot str's

This is one reason for adding 72-77 shit. Also, the 80 NPC Hunters/Thieves being really strong, Lord Yarkan (maybe it'll be worth something killing him in the future) and also other new 80 Uniques, who knows.

jlfbalo 10/18/2013 03:42

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Originally Posted by iSnoOze (Post 25470558)
Don't think you quite understand. When people have moon weapons, the damage they hit our 64-69 sets will be massive, they will 1 shot all nukers and probably 2 shot str's

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Originally Posted by baskete (Post 25470617)
You clearly have no idea what's the difference between SoM gear and normal gear if you think SoM won't be worth it.
I agree with the +9/+10 part so let's hope these items will be expensive so people can't buy one hundred pieces and alchemy all night.


I get why you guys want the last tier and i want it too, im just pointing out the cons about it thats it... If GM adds last tier items it should be either for a lot of gold OR delete the BA coins from SOM add a few more kills and instead make the last tier items 40-80 Coins per peace, that way BA would actually worth xD

baskete 10/18/2013 03:57

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Originally Posted by jlfbalo (Post 25470642)
I get why you guys want the last tier and i want it too, im just pointing out the cons about it thats it... If GM adds last tier items it should be either for a lot of gold OR delete the BA coins from SOM add a few more kills and instead make the last tier items 40-80 Coins per peace, that way BA would actually worth xD

40-70m each piece. That's balanced enough for me I guess.. If someone can buy 10 weapons for 70m each, they deserve a +10 weapon or whatever...

jlfbalo 10/18/2013 04:01

Umm well 40-70m peace aint that much i think.. Heard a trader makes about 50m with 5* so... I think 100m and lets say 20-30 BA coins would be fair (ba is pretty fun and should be worthable to go in my oppinion xD).

baskete 10/18/2013 04:09

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Originally Posted by jlfbalo (Post 25470696)
Umm well 40-70m peace aint that much i think.. Heard a trader makes about 50m with 5* so... I think 100m and lets say 20-30 BA coins would be fair (ba is pretty fun and should be worthable to go in my oppinion xD).

You gotta remember that let's say 70m each piece means u need 770m just to get Full 72-77. Now you need to buy elixirs, stones, lucky powders... Gold only is the way to go.

On-Topic:
Just noticed something really stupid:
I lost my level 20 job suit as now you gotta be lvl 60 to job but, lmao, I can't buy a Female Trader Flag with 1 Str. Is this for real? Hotan even sells European flags... Please, let us buy Female 1 Str trader flags. Didn't check Thief/Hunter suits but... anyway, please fix this (:

jlfbalo 10/18/2013 05:06

Yeah u right now that u mention it xD

About the bug, i reported it yesterday, guess gm didnt saw my post :P he forgot Male suit +Int and female suit+str xD

iSnoOze 10/18/2013 05:39

Idk, its just annoying to pvp people in the exact same sets, pure skill-less pvp atm, CTF is worthless, for me at least, i don't want more globals. no one does jobbing, no arena, no events or absolutely anything as of this far. Someone needs to be done dude...

metour2007 10/18/2013 06:06

Let me try xD

tomek10 10/18/2013 06:35

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Originally Posted by baskete (Post 25470617)
Only the first snow shield should be allowed for Pure STR, because:
First: Any Pure STR can use the last Snow Shield if they want. Mana is not a problem, just set it at 99% and be immortal for 2 minutes;
Second: If you have never seen a server in which only the first Snow Shield is allowed for Pure STRs I guess you must be new here, please don't talk too much about things you have no clue about.


Read my post again. I said didnt saw server where STR can`t even use first snow also i said first snow is enough for str because if we for example use 50% snow shield you are not allowed to use skills for sure if u have high dmg oponent. But right i know nothing about sro because i start playing on Ksro before u even heard about Sro and i`m GM also on another project.
Enjoy & Peace

baskete 10/18/2013 06:44

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Originally Posted by tomek10 (Post 25471036)
Read my post again. I said didnt saw server where STR can`t even use first snow also i said first snow is enough for str because if we for example use 50% snow shield you are not allowed to use skills for sure if u have high dmg oponent. But right i know nothing about sro because i start playing on Ksro before u even heard about Sro and i`m GM also on another project.
Enjoy & Peace

Nice bro, good for u! Usually, people that are so experienced indeed tell everyone about it, way to go! Time to study English then...

Anyway, Pure STR chars must not be able to learn the complete Snow Shield tree because what if you just wanna be a tank, use the last Snow Shield and be immortal while your mates kill everyone else in, let's say, a job war?

Adding an Int 180+- requirement for the Snow Shield - Adept is just what we need right now.

xoxo

tomek10 10/18/2013 07:19

So mature time to study english.
U know nothing about Sro also u spam every1 who leave your crappy guild.
And last. High dmg oponent vs last snow shield for example Glavier = no mana after 2-3hits.
Enjoy your stay "bro"

iSnoOze 10/18/2013 07:49

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Originally Posted by tomek10 (Post 25471175)
So mature time to study english.
U know nothing about Sro also u spam every1 who leave your crappy guild.
And last. High dmg oponent vs last snow shield for example Glavier = no mana after 2-3hits.
Enjoy your stay "bro"

kekekeke, you're probably in hyperion, ye what a great guild. You're really quite stupid. And if you keep saying how you're GM on other servers, probably means you know less about the skills because you've played for less time as an actual person. I'm sure that i'd know more than you, and most people about this game, been playing since beta mate.

But anyway, glaviers should have 180+ int on higher snows. But if you're a glavier and use snow in pvp, you're a fucking scrub. SIMPLE

Gameron 10/18/2013 07:49

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Originally Posted by jlfbalo (Post 25470803)
Yeah u right now that u mention it xD

About the bug, i reported it yesterday, guess gm didnt saw my post :P he forgot Male suit +Int and female suit+str xD

I guess guys that everyone wrote something to fix and it is not just press a bottom and OP OP it done. Give time to fix one by one and in final this server will be the best ever.

I noticed some bugs too, but almost all of them are reported already, so i just waiting when all be fixed.

PS: Sorry for my bad english :D

baskete 10/18/2013 07:50

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Originally Posted by tomek10 (Post 25471175)
So mature time to study english.
U know nothing about Sro also u spam every1 who leave your crappy guild.
And last. High dmg oponent vs last snow shield for example Glavier = no mana after 2-3hits.
Enjoy your stay "bro"

Oh noes, u dat mad bro? Chill!
You still made some English mistakes, but I'll ignore'em, I make some too. Keep up the good work!

Shit, I'm glad you can teach me some stuff regarding Silkroad, you must know a lot from your 2 years of forum, GM and shit, longest e-penis ever.

Also, if you wanna talk about someone's guild, do it in-game son, here's not the place, PM me if you want, I'll even pvp you if it makes you feel better (:
Not really sure why you came up with that but, well, haters gonna hate... good luck at whatever guild you want but, unless you got the 'ballz' to create one, you shouldn't try to school me :O

xoxo

ahmedneon 10/18/2013 08:36

Lol Realy is the +11 same Glow of +10 ?!!!

Herovans 10/18/2013 09:26

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For how much we should sell the items??
I should set it for some gold or just 1gold for each?

CrusadeDEV 10/18/2013 09:35

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Originally Posted by Herovans (Post 25471846)
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For how much we should sell the items??
I should set it for some gold or just 1gold for each?

50m each so people should make trade to buy them all :D

Herovans 10/18/2013 09:37

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Originally Posted by jlfbalo (Post 25470317)
Problem about adding last tier items is that it will be just +2 lower than som and since its on the npc obtainable with gold people will +9/+10 in no time but no the other hand since som is too expensive you cant try to +9 just like that so in the end som will be kinda useless. Unless, last tier ítems prize is expensive so people cant just buy them that easy to try +X

I think same exactly O.o

We need make it expensive or change som to sun.

I noticed the difference between som and normal items 72+ not so high.

So before i add the items we need think again.

We should make it expensive or we change som to sun?

I don't want we fuck the whole system because 72+ items.

baskete 10/18/2013 09:46

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Originally Posted by Herovans (Post 25471906)
I think same exactly O.o

We need make it expensive or change som to sun.

I noticed the difference between som and normal items 72+ not so high.

So before i add the items we need think again.

We should make it expensive or we change som to sun?

I don't want we fuck the whole system because 72+ items.


There has never been a D8 server without 72-77 last tier gear. Old school supposedly means to be iSro like back in the day, correct?

50m each armour piece; 75m each accessory; 100m each weapon.

What do you get with this: More jobbing
What have you got to lose: People won't care about SoM.

I will keep trying to get a SoM weapon for obvious reasons, not sure if I even have to tell what are they. So, in my opinion, you got nothing to lose.

The SoM/SoSun thing... SoSun is overly overpowered. I mean, it's even pathetic and only disencourages new players, SoM is good enough.

As of right now, people are creating new characters to have more than one piece of D8 armour to try +6, +7 etc. I am pretty sure this is not what you want.

PvPing with people that have the same gear as you is pretty lame so, yeah, I think these are enough reasons to add 72-77 gear, just don't make a big deal outta this...

Quick Advice: Before this gets bigger: Snow Shield - Adept 180 Int to Learn. Fast.

If possible, trader flag female with 1 str, no need for european flags at hotan/no female at DW.

Cheers

Herovans 10/18/2013 10:08

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Originally Posted by baskete (Post 25471952)
There has never been a D8 server without 72-77 last tier gear. Old school supposedly means to be iSro like back in the day, correct?

50m each armour piece; 75m each accessory; 100m each weapon.

What do you get with this: More jobbing
What have you got to lose: People won't care about SoM.

I will keep trying to get a SoM weapon for obvious reasons, not sure if I even have to tell what are they. So, in my opinion, you got nothing to lose.

The SoM/SoSun thing... SoSun is overly overpowered. I mean, it's even pathetic and only disencourages new players, SoM is good enough.

As of right now, people are creating new characters to have more than one piece of D8 armour to try +6, +7 etc. I am pretty sure this is not what you want.

PvPing with people that have the same gear as you is pretty lame so, yeah, I think these are enough reasons to add 72-77 gear, just don't make a big deal outta this...

Quick Advice: Before this gets bigger: Snow Shield - Adept 180 Int to Learn. Fast.

If possible, trader flag female with 1 str, no need for european flags at hotan/no female at DW.

Cheers

Indeed adding the normal items for gold will make the main idea of server or the main systems is nothing.

Main idea to get those items from many different resources , if players will not care about som then after some trades peoples will get gold and buy everything and that's it No fun anymore.

baskete 10/18/2013 10:12

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Originally Posted by Herovans (Post 25472067)
Indeed adding the normal items for gold will make the main idea of server or the main systems is nothing.

Main idea to get those items from many different resources , if players will not care about som then after some trades peoples will get gold and buy everything and that's it No fun anymore.

Already told this to someone.
Pimping your gear won't be cheap. A few trades won't be enough. Put the price as high as you want to, just understand that, someday, people will have 72-77 top items - it's inevitable... but that will take some time, as long as alchemy is not easy.

With the prices I put in the previous post, you'll probably need 1b-1.5b to have good gear 72-77. 1.5b / 50m that's 30 trades/robberies and if you think it's too easy, raise the prices but someday people will have +8/+9 gear, it's fate.

Then the SoM race begins.

EDIT:
I have no globals and just saw your global: "Let's replace SoM with SoSun" - SoSun is EXTREMELY strong dude, watch out. Test SoSun weapons against a +5 72-77 set FB in your local server and you'll understand. Seriously, SoM is good enough, SuN is the same as saying "New players? No thanks."

I'm off to bed, good luck.

Cheers

Herovans 10/18/2013 10:56

Good night baskete

Avendesora 10/18/2013 11:09

I'd like to state my opinion as a person who hasn't played on your server yet:

You want the server to be balanced, so you don't want anyone to be overpowered. Then SOM weapons are just what you are looking for, since they are +2 stronger and have more critical rate than lv 72 weapons. That way SOM owners indeed have transcendence, at the same time won't be extremely overpowered.

I'd suggest you to let the gear sets be default, cause if you want your server to be oldschool, there shouldn't be so many edits on the main features I think.

Herovans 10/18/2013 11:15

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Originally Posted by Avendesora (Post 25472449)
I'd like to state my opinion as a person who hasn't played on your server yet:

You want the server to be balanced, so you don't want anyone to be overpowered. Then SOM weapons are just what you are looking for, since they are +2 stronger and have more critical rate than lv 72 weapons. That way SOM owners indeed have transcendence, at the same time won't be extremely overpowered.

I'd suggest you to let the gear sets be default, cause if you want your server to be oldschool, there shouldn't be so many edits on the main features I think.

You are right i was thinking the same and som is fine anyway they will go for it.

I think i will add the items for gold plus some job points.

By the way Thanks for your suggestion and i hope you will join us soon.

Cheers

Carillon 10/18/2013 11:25

Add Sun's but decrease it's dmg/def etc because it will be too op. Or just increase SoM's stats.

tsqaured 10/18/2013 11:27

I think instead of the last tier, the 2nd tier is also fine with gold buying or auto equip.
Last tier to buy with gold and like 25 job kills per gear part, and 75/100 for the 72 wep.
And btw imo don't know about others I think 300 job kills for a garm part or accessory part is a bit to high..
for a weapon 300 is fine.

Herovans 10/18/2013 11:27

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Originally Posted by Carillon (Post 25472590)
Add Sun's but decrease it's dmg/def etc because it will be too op. Or just increase SoM's stats.

I think som is fine because it's 2 plus more than 72+ gears.

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Originally Posted by tsqaured (Post 25472604)
I think instead of the last tier, the 2nd tier is also fine with gold buying or auto equip.
Last tier to buy with gold and like 25 job kills per gear part, and 75/100 for the 72 wep.
And btw imo don't know about others I think 300 job kills for a garm part or accessory part is a bit to high..
for a weapon 300 is fine.

If many players will join us soon then we wont have any problem with job kills

200Mil weapons

100Mil each part of set.

75mil for accessories.

20 job kills.

The value of prices is fine?

ahmedneon 10/18/2013 11:40

The Prices seems fine , not easy to have full set very fast ,, go a head on the update :)

tsqaured 10/18/2013 12:15

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Originally Posted by Herovans (Post 25472605)
I think som is fine because it's 2 plus more than 72+ gears.



If many players will join us soon then we wont have any problem with job kills

200Mil weapons

100Mil each part of set.

75mil for accessories.

20 job kills.

The value of prices is fine?


yeah, fair prices.
tbh might be a idea don't know if it's even possible thought.. might also motivates people to trade/hunt/thief..
Every completed 5* trade gives a trader 1 jobkill, 1 successfull robbed 5 * trade gives every thief in the pt also 1.. (when goods sold for trader&thief).
For hunters need to look a solution for this.. maybe need to be in the party BEFORE a trader buys the goods.

Said again.. might be an idea due the traders sit on their convoy and a hunter protects them so it's not 1 2 3 possible for a trader to kill a thief.. unless there is a jobwar going on.

And yes 300 points is a wep/gear/accessory..
but do 300 trades or 300 successfull robs.
1 trade +- takes 30 mins.
so 300 x 30 mins = 9000 minutes, which is 150 hours / 24 hours(1day) = 6,25 days..
so it still isn't that easy to get just 1 part if you only trade or w/e.

Carillon 10/18/2013 12:16

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Originally Posted by Herovans (Post 25472605)
I think som is fine because it's 2 plus more than 72+ gears.



If many players will join us soon then we wont have any problem with job kills

200Mil weapons

100Mil each part of set.

75mil for accessories.

20 job kills.

The value of prices is fine?

SoM won't be fine, cause people will work hard on it and will stay at +5 only cause they will be afraid that their SoM might get destroyed. People with last tier will just have higher pluses and that will mean last tier is better than SoM.

MemphisMayFire 10/18/2013 12:20

When the FTW time ?

lordjaggi 10/18/2013 12:30

dude seriously do something about str characters and snow shield, damn pathetic glaviers and bladers with final lvl snow shield is bs.

Gameron 10/18/2013 12:36

In old style silkroad Str did not have snow shield? As i know they had, so what need do then?

Carillon 10/18/2013 12:45

And also nerf force debuff deletion skill... Today i've tried to make 2-3 debuffs and when I successed in making 2 debuffs he just cancelled them by 1 skill...

CapitanJack 10/18/2013 13:23

You need to add at less shield to npc.
Since only blade and s/s nuker can use fire shield >_<

h25001 10/18/2013 13:34

Any Guild Speaking English?

Im new :)

Carillon 10/18/2013 13:36

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Originally Posted by h25001 (Post 25474030)
Any Guild Speaking English?

Im new :)

Yeah, Offensive guild is recruiting. If you're interested to join PM Logistique. Later im gonna plvl too so dw about lvling.


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