Yup, I tried to warn people about this guy a long time ago, but the forum staff removed the comments, and now look what happened.

zero accountability.

No be fair, it never passed any wave, it was always detected, it wasn't ever safe to begin with. It didn't even deserve to be called a rotation bot, it was literally trash AHK copy and paste GPT code that fit in 100 lines.

Do you know if he would refund to people ? :(

Kiss that money goodbye, just open a chargeback.

I'm sure he will be back on these forums with a new scheme first, I already see someone on the forums that I suspect is him.

No be fair, it never passed any wave, it was always detected, it wasn't ever safe to begin with. It didn't even deserve to be called a rotation bot, it was literally trash AHK copy and paste GPT code that fit in 100 lines.[/QUOTE]

what do you mean? ggl has never ever had a ban ive used it for 6+ years multiple accounts. and always high end logs for all content or where you refering to the other program that got banned?

I'm not refering to GGL. I'm referring to that scam warp/hexar/rotation buddy.

would you say that aimsharp is the spiritual sucessor of elk?

I would say it's most like Elk yes, aimsharp however was around before elk was around publically and obviously ended up being far safer than Elk was from the detection standpoint.

Does aimsharp offer cata rotations or is it only retail?. their website is very so unclear

Thanks for the awesome post ! I enjoyed a lot reading it.

Im looking to use something for Warmane (3.3.5 private server) for PvP (Mostly Duel, Arena)
Please tell me what should i look for ?

Search on funpay there's stuff there

Some stuff made with unlocker or pixelbots? Curious too, because I only know about Dimonsky, but I think its medium quality and everyone knows it

i didnt find anything usefull :/

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check that.

Thanks mate !

Does aimsharp work for cata? Nothing mentioned on their website

How can I get a trial or preview of aimsharp? I can't find the discord invite for aimsharp

You will need to use their email on their website I guess. Their Discord is not open to the public. I don't think you're getting any trials, they're far past that stage already, either you pay to play, or don't play at all. I think this is going to be the case for any established product.

From my search during wotlk they didn't support any version of classic only retail as it's pretty much just private Devs that supply the rotations.

Hi, do u have any review of RiceRotation? For retail pve

On their website the only 3rd party devs shown are Pizza rotations. Are there more devs on their discord once you get in or what?

Boss, can you recommend a rotation of PVE? It better be an unlock. I play Fire Mage

I would like to hear the feedback u have for rice rotations because I saw u recommended it in another thread as an option to morpheus to someone.

Yes, they have other 3rd party developers with rotation suites.

if you guys could go with GGL or Rotation labs I assume you’d choose GGLoader?
@[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] do you know if there is any PvP rotations or programs for cata? Example I have is the warrior named Dekel he was using some type of script or program where his actions would always be 600+ APM and his movement would always look robotic.. like his back would never face a feral Druid, etc. I could provide a plethora of YouTube videos showing this. But I cannot find any idea what type of pvp bot or cheat he was using on WoTLK classic unless it was something made personally

Vouching for GGL. Also got "sweet-talked" into getting the lifetime. But the support has been great and we have finally started getting long due updates. Retail PVE mainly. Only classes I wish had better support was Mage & Monk. Maybe I need to look more better but they tend to have subpar profiles

Rotation lab
Not good
Its price is 99 dollars
than maxdps which is $20
I'm getting bad logs

You say you vouche for GGL but yet it seems their premium price doesn't justify the product with late updates, lack of a decent autobind in most cases and subpar profiles.

Fair criticism but the lack of update didn't prevent the use or high quality of the current profiles. The logs speak for themselves when comparing to the other profiles. Only program that I noted to actually beat GGL in performance was HyperElk (RIP). Autobind would be nice but it's not that hard to setup yourself. I agree that its not perfect and has room for improvement, but its the best we got right now.

I suggest you both use rice rotations, if you haven't heard of it, just Google it.

I've been using them for a couple months now and they're definitely the best price performance wise. I would even say very much comparable to elk.

I also tried GGL, and while there are some community devs on their platform that are definitely worth the money, the security is seemingly good aswell. I just cannot understand why they get away with asking such a ridiculous price for each standard class profile. Which in most cases is just an automated rotation helper with very little quality of life. It blows my mind.

I think with GGL it just comes down to their history of not being detected and the availability of 3rd party PVP profiles.

For Pve content, I feel there are better options both public and private for Mythic+, raiding, and/or other casual gameplay. Also, the easability of setup for other platforms and pricing transparency are better in other places.

I would say the fact that you aren't going to get banned with GGL makes it worth the cost of lifetime. I don't think any other service comes close to GGL in this regard, even if updates etc. are late. However it definitely is fair criticism we went a very ridiculous amount of time without an update for Aug evoker, adding pixels, etc.

I also have used and really enjoy Rice, it's being improved all the time. I don't believe they have had any detections but they haven't been around as long.. still, I think they are a good group and hope they continue to prioritize security as GGL does.

Look I'm not saying rice is elk in a mask but I'm just saying I wouldn't be suprised if it gets hit. There's to many commonalities including Devs. Also if your getting bad parses there's probably more to it than out x product is bad. If you don't understand how to parse it's much more than just a rotation.

Late updates, lack of decent autobind, and subpar profiles?

Dragonflight has been one of our most successful expansions yet, with a significant increase in end-game developers, and we just got a few more for TWW.

1. GGL is rewritten with every major update to protect the integrity of the client and ultimately safeguard the user from detections. Unless there is an absolutely game-breaking or performance-breaking bug, or a requirement to play the game that is not being met, the client is updated as needed.

2. The only "late update" GGL missed during Dragonflight was pixel-related, which was temporarily resolved using alternative pixels (i.e., unused spells).

3. All GGL developers have and support autobind.

4. End-of-expansion statistics (numbers are referenced as 'dozen' instead of exact figures to protect user data.): More than half of GGL users achieved 1.8K, several dozen achieved 2.2K, a few dozen achieved Gladiator at some point during Dragonflight, with two dozen achieving Multiglad, and several reaching R1--all throughout Dragonflight. A few dozen achieved Keystone Hero every season, and a little over a dozen earned Tormented Hero. Over half cleared 4-6/9 Mythic Amirdrassil, with a dozen clearing 9/9 Mythic and a few achieving Realm Firsts on full realms (data for the other two raids was not polled, only Amirdrassil).

Is GGL priced higher? Yes. It is built with security in mind, and the end product is designed for serious content pushers, not casual players. While casuals are welcome to join, and many users are willing to teach, those looking for a more budget-friendly and casual-friendly experience might find a provider like Aimsharp more appealing.

Edit: To add and finish, we've offered a free trial for nearly the entire Dragonflight expansion, allowing potential customers to test the rotation performance and compare it with competitors. Nothing is being paywalled nor gatekept.

Using PvE profiles as an example to refer people that don't pay your higher price as casuals is a huge red flag in my opinion. Simcraft isn't rocket science and a person who is capable of playing high difficulty content will be able to achieve just as much with any rotation so I consider this as nothing more than poor marketing.

Your security statistics, while having many PvP oriented profiles is however impressive yes. Also the support deserves a kudos aswell.

Used GGLoader during Wrath and all I can say is the support is top tier.

why did you not add RiceRotations on the main page? (page1) ? or do u not refresh list anymore?

There is nowhere to link to them on the forums, so I don't want to add them.If they add a forum post, I will.


Who's "we've offered", "we've" suggests you're a part of the GGL team? That was an interesting part of the whole speech. Did you let that one slip?


Just to add to this, GGL has been doing much better lately from the updates, right down to the 3rd party developers. The security and safety of the GGL has been better than all that has come and gone in the pixel bot space, it's been and stayed undetected since 2018 I believe which is pretty amazing in the world of Warcraft botting/rotations space. I've always praised GGL when they deserved to be praised and always criticized when I felt they needed to be criticized. I feel my opinion on them is unbiased and fair, and I think GGL is doing good. Do I think they could do something better? Sure, but overall like 0x41 said, they're more focused on long-term customers that are doing higher-tier content and take rotations and PVP ratings seriously, does this make GGL perfect no, but I can tell you the rotations developer will listen to your feedback if you have them, and that's important.

Are there other options that are good for casual players, yes, are there other platforms that can perform just as well or near as well, yes, but if you want something for its reputation for safety, GGL has proven itself safe for a long time.

Purchased GGL for cata. Will tell you guys how it goes. Excited to try it out.

how can i get aimsharp discord? i wanna check out what rinda of rotations they have