Use MaxDPS, it's cheap if the price is a problem for you.

any good bot to farm primal fire or mana in shadowlands?

An idea for an automatic farm(mining herb)?

None.

You can use something like GSE which spams keys - [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

You download their addon, find the rotation you want, paste it into the addon and it'll make a macro key for you. Then, you assign that key a keybind and set that keybind to some kind of spamming software (keyboard or key presser).

You'll be able to get blue parses, but nothing like a pixel bot.

GGL has quite a few free developers coming back for the release of WotLK, but there is an initial investment (price of class you want to play + monthly subscription of 11.85 eur). The developers there will be the best for near perfect rotations.

HyperElk will have WotLK. They have a monthly cost which is higher than GGL, but you get all of the classes. So, there's a bit of options.

What do you think about Elk&GGL in pve?
which one is better in your opinion?

HyperElk is showing up as having Trojan:Win32/Wacatac.D!ml ... Are you sure it is safe?

It's not a Trojan it's safe I used it back then in sl pretty good for melee, range not so much... other rotation like hexar best to stay away he's a scammer surprising he isn't banned yet

idk how long u didnt use it but caster is good if u know how to play.

First time using bot software? :lul:

Elk by far is the better choice, it's an updated daily, very active userbase. While GGL might have been great in its time, its become rather dated and behind in development. Maybe that will change in the future, who knows, but as it stands now ELK is better for the average user.

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Maybe? run it in a VM ya?

I agreed with ggl I believe one if the main dev left for another project cause I tried it again a few weeks ago and it wasnt up to par, my manually cast is way better lol

Thx for your Pixel Bots reviews. After reading this i tested 2 of them and my favorite is ERZ and im using it.
After keybinds are set up correctly ingame and in the loader the rotations are really smooth and good.
Tested it with some classes and its really cool to see how good it runs. Never thought that pixel bots can do such a good job.

The loader will be also useable for WOTLK Classic. But i´m only playing retail wow.

GGL is in a rather sad situation with development, I just think the core developer is not financially motivated to put more effort into updating it, which is sad because it's not bad software if they put more effort into a new development to improve the user experience, I guess we will see, they could be just holding back and suddenly release something new out of nowhere.

Glad my reviews could help you out, I believe ERZ is great, the owner of it is a hardworking guy that puts a lot of effort into his product and listens to his customers.

Since you doing review of all these rotations bot.
Could you tell me @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] how long did you test each bot before coming up with the conclusion and reviews? Thats also something i would like to see in your review.
How long you tested each product and bot, because thats very valuable to know.

Because spending maybe 1h with one product then spending 1 month with another. Will give 2 diffrent reviews and input.

Because im intressted in testing out ERZ – EasyRZ, but i also wanna make sure your reviews are based of real testing time.

Most of the developers of each one of these bots I know personally, I have used all of them extensively. I'm very well known in the WoW Scene under other usernames outside of this forum. If you want to test out ERZ, I suggest you speak with Rubim and get a trial, or talk to others on his discord if you want a variance in opinion. These reviews are to help new users decide on which direction they go, my opinion is my opinion if there are those that wish to use something based on my extensive experience that's great, but if not, that's fine too.

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tamedbeast says he knows each of you guys personal and thats why hes reviews are correct and hes been testing each of you guys rotation bot since they existed.

What he claims: "I know every developer for each one personally"

Is this true and can we as users here trust what he says about each ? Or is he just lieing and trying to feel importent?

Personally is not right at all.

But i think i do have a good communication with my community.

I payed for HyperElk but all links to discord (both on their website and the one provided in the email) is expired and I am required to join their discord to be able to use it. Don't know why it is like this, but its sad to pay €25 for something I cannot use.

You're putting way too much effort in an attempt to fanboy for GGL, if you like GGL that's wonderful, you made your opinion, and you can move on and create your own topic/thread rather than trying to flame on my help page. You should just drop the topic, and stop trying to spam me in my PM's, you're adding no value to this conversation and making a fool of yourself just because I don't want to add you to discord.

Make a post on their forum page asking for an updated discord link.

I havent fanboy over GGL.
I have said both HyperELK and GGL is good. But it all depends on what you are after. Dont know if thats rly any fanboying. But i like how you try to avoid your lieing about things and try to focus on me insteed of your lies :)

All im trying to do is put some light, because people going after review need to also know how much effort you put into each and also that you are lieing that you know each dev. Since clearly we can see you dont and still you lieing that you do. Then the question is, what more are you leing about? People rarely lie about just one thing, so whats more is a lie in your thread

Lies about what exactly? It's a review page that reflects my personal opinion on the world of warcraft combat pixel bots.

You do realize how stupid you're really sounding right now right? You just keep going on about god knows what because I won't give you my discord username. You need help. :lul:

What you claim: "I know every developer for each one personally"

This is what you're holding onto in order to invalidate my opinion on pixel bots? Even if I "didn't" know each developer, it really wouldn't be relevant to this thread. You act as if this thread was some grand conspiracy against every wow botter :lul:

This isn't the problem here, in fact, I do know every one of them, and beyond, the problem here is you just can't get over the fact that "I" won't expose my off forum discord name to you personally.

From here on out I will just be ignoring your annoying antics, it's really adding zero value to anyone here.

did you get this resolved?
if not reach out to me and i'll help you.

as far as i can see someone with the same name joined our dirscord a few minutes after this post.
The Hyperelk team tripple checked all Discord Invite links and they are all valid :)

Hi is maxdps good for m+ and raid healing? Im not talking about mythic raiding or insanely high keys. And for dps which rotation would you say is the best they have to offer?

is gg loader worth for tbc pvp ?

Can you do a review on KrYo and get it added.
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I'm a user of the service and its amazing. But my review alone (in that thread) surely isn't enough to get added to the OP.

Thanks.

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Didn't know that. Apologies.

stolen by whom? are there any reports on this?

1. I'm not going to disclose this
2. Ask them yourself if they want to answer you. They will; if not, it's not your business to know.

If you want to use it, then use it; if not, don't. But I'm not going to support or review it knowing what I know firsthand.

But you have HyperELK?
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Most pixel bots got their foundations from Pixel Magic which was left open source for the community to learn and use, but HyperElk is far from those foundations at this point; calling it pixel magic at this point is unlogical, while it did build itself off its original ideas, it was built into its own ideas and functions that Pixel Magic never achieved. If you compared the code side by side, you could see that 99% of it code is nothing like the other.

If Hyper Elk should have given Winifix some credits for its foundations, that's a different story, but I think most everyone knows Elk was originally based on open source code provided by Pixel Magic, but as I said, 99% of the code now is nothing like pixel magic.

There's a big difference between stealing the protected code of an already established bot than using opened source code and doing it yourself.

If you think ELK and Magic are the same, go ahead and use pixel magic and find out why they're not. If the code was the same, then why did Kryo go and steal it? Why didn't he just use a pixel magic source? The answer is simple; it's because it's not the same, and when he did try to use it, his project was failing miserably so he decided to steal Elks's code to profit from it.

Problem is, he will never have the developers that Elk has to keep rotations up to date, nor the ability to have any honor in his stolen code. He will always be seen as the red-headed step child, just like Winifix is (he was also a code thief and blizzard rat)

Hey mate, I'm new to the scene and I wanted to ask, what's the best place to learn about the differences in what an unlocker is vs what a pixel bot is. Also in your opinion which is the best PvP bot/rotation service/services for farming/doing bg's and for rated arena's.

Atm from what I've seen, I'm looking at GMR for BG farming, and then still learning and looking for the best Arena bot/rotations is. Also would love Xy's opinion on this as I know he favors GGL but also would like his opinion overall wise.

Unlocker uses protected functions vs. Pixel uses public functions via API.

Unlockers are better for rotations because of access to protected functions but have 100% ban rates in very short periods of time. Pixel bots tend to last several years longer and rarely have bans, if at all for some.

So if you don't mind bans but want the best rotations, get an unlocker; if you want a good pixel rotation, I would suggest one from the list in my reviews.

If you would like someone else opinion on it, I would suggest sending them a private message about it, as it's off topic to this thread.

Updated Pixel Rotation bots to reflect WOTLK.

Hey!

Looking for a personalised recommendation from you, if i may?

After having read through the last 6 pages of this thread, you seem to have detailed knowledge of the pixelbot scene. I noticed you didn't add any information regarding 'Healing / Heal Engine' as a 'Pro' for HyperElk which had be doubting whether HyperElk would be any good for healing since it didn't get a "complex engine" Pro note, etc. So I'm just wondering if you'd be able to give me a somewhat tailored recommendation?

I would like a bot for;

- WotLK Classic (Official)
- PvE and PvP (Mainly PvE but both would be fantastic)
- All Roles (Healing/DPS for PvE and DPS for PvP)
- Hard to configure is non-issue (used to multibox for years so troubleshooting WoW software is a daily routine) though simplicity/easy-to-use is always welcome

Also, I would like to thank you for this very informative thread, it's been of great use to learn what the top bots in the market currently are, their strengths, all of your previous informative responses, and other users opinions within this thread.

What I'm looking for in a bot isn't all that detailed so if there's some more specifics you'd want to know before making a recommendation, please do ask as I may be forgetting something!

Thank you ahead of time!

Hyper Elk healing logic is written into the individual rotation itself and is customizable at the user level based on what the developer decides is an adjustable variable.

GGL is something like this as well, but there are some heal engine options that are just a lot more variable and complex that is open to the end users.

Overall this doesn't really matter unless you're a developer or you have an extreme understanding of the inner workings of healing and other server-sided complexities.

99 out of 100 users wouldn't know how to use such options GGL offers in their heal engine, so it doesn't really matter.

As for healing and pixel bots, Hyper Elk is the most recommended, not because I think it has the best healing rotations (GGL has better Paid Healing Rotas), but because overall, as a program, it's just a better user experience and constant development not only rotation side (included at no extra cost), it also has core constantly updated with new feature and updates.

If GGL had more active development on QOL features for users, I would likely lean more into using GGL, but as it stands now, it's great, but there is just too much footwork setting it up, and for the average users, it's just not worth it. This might change in the future as there is supposed to be updated before Dragon Flight, which makes it easier to use; when they come out, I will re-evaluate those new changes and update my review according to those changes.

Okay, i understand what you're saying. Thank you very much for your explanation. I did some of my own research after writing my post and have come to the following simplified conclusion;

HyperElk:
- Good for PvE
- Cheap monthly subscrition cost IF only for PvE
- Monthly subscription includes rotations for all classes/specs, for Classic AND Retail
- Quite expensive for PvP as rotations are extra paid monthly cost (roughly $20 per SPEC, per version of WoW, per month)

GGLoader:
- Good for PvE AND PvP
- Cheap monthly subscription BUT insane entry-price-point ($75 per class)
- Monthly subscription and $75 entry-price cost does NOT include the top tier rotation specs for some reason, that is an extra $90 a month per spec
- Extremely expensive for PvE and PvP as all decent or above rotations are paid (up to $90 per spec, per version of WoW, per month)

So, overall, with HyperElk i can get all specs for all classes, for both Retail and WoW, for $25 a month, although this does not include PvP. But for PvP specs it's an additional $20 per month, per spec - but that's reasonable and very well priced considering everything included in the $25 monthly subscription.

Whilst with GGLoader it's $75 per class, doesn't even include a rotation for neither PvE nor PvP that is any better than HyperElk (thus not worth costing $50 more for no justifiable reason, especially when HyperElk is $50 cheaper for ALL classes+specs), an additional $12 a month as a subscription, and an additional $50-$90 for community rotations, per SPEC, per version of WoW, per month. Free rotations are garbage from what I've been told, barely ever updated since they dont get monthly financial incentive to keep them up to date, and any rotation that is any good ends up being charged for by the creator. Also those additional community rotations can be abandonned at ANY time, for ANY reason.

So to maintain HyperElk, realistically, would cost $45 a month ($25 for the monthly subscription for all PvE specs, and $20 extra a month for 1x PvP spec for your main). To maintain GGLoader it's $177 for the first month, then $102 MINIMUM every month after ($75 entry price class + $12 monthly subscription + $90 for only 1 good spec, and an extra $90 for every spec you want after) - want to have a Disc Priest PvE spec that is really good? Another $90 to your monthly cost.

GGLoader just costs waaaaaay too much even at the bare minimum of only purchasing 1 spec, for 1 aspect of the game (PvE/PvP), for 1 version of WoW (retail/classic), and has nothing to justify the cost. The cost they have, i assumed was because they had top-tier 99% dev-made and dev-maintained specs. But you pay those ridiculous entry price costs and don't even get a spec, and then need to pay more money to get community specs? Nah, that's just way too much for nothing of genuine value.

I would rather pay $25 a month for all PvE specs that are all 90%+ parse and an extra $20 a month for 1 good PvP spec, than $75 entry + $12 per month subscription + $90 PER MONTH FOR 1 SPEC.

Both have amazingly polite and informative devs / assistants / customer support i must say, having spoken to both, but I have to say GGLoader is far too steep in having such a high entry-cost at $75, then expecting its users to pay up to $90 for specs. For $75 i expect to buy a top tier Gladiator-worthy rotation for the entire class, i thought that was the point of having such a crazy entry-cost. HyperElk has far too much on offer for such a low price to even consider GGLoader. Even if I were to buy 6x $20 PvP specs for 3 different classes from HyperElk, it would still come out cheaper than GGLoader with just 1 spec.

Lastly, i find that GGLoader has over-complicated their purchase page, with too many options; one of which was to pay $99 for a private build. I've used many suppliers in the past for hacks for many different games, from many different providers, and many inherently offer private builds as part of their base monthly cost (as well as other features such as HWID spoofers for example). The fact they want to charge an additional $99 to auto-generate you a unique build is kind of scummy to me considering it isn't that hard to do; as mentioned many providers for hacks for games I've used in the past do this naturally and inherently to help avoid EAC/BE build detections and have never charged a premium for such a feature. Seeing that option was a bit of a nail-in-the-coffin moment for me.

It felt like they're just choosing to charge insane amounts of money for things that should not cost money, for the sake of charging the money with no genuine added value. If they don't provide decent specs there shouldn't be a $75 class-fee ontop of their monthly subscription. If they charge $75 for a class rotation i shouldn't have to spend $90 on top of that to buy a decent one from the community creators. They shouldn't charge a penny for unique builds, this should be the default ESPECIALLY when charging $75 already. Etc.

Thanks again for your insight though, it has helped me reach the conclusion above and encouraged me to do my own detailed research.