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Black Fomor 01/02/2010 21:00

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Originally Posted by Kevsprk (Post 3814984)
xD They never got anything from me. They're claiming to have things they don't have. Poor noob trying to prove hiself :'(

Maybe they're confused on your XP info they got,

Kid 1: Dude whats does this mean:"XP SP3 Build 3463945. Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved"

Kid 2: DUDE WE JUST HACKED KEV. OMG WE SO PRO. LETS HACK MORE.

Kid 1: So do we just reply to the email asking for more info?

***1 day later***

Kid 1: they haven't replied yet....

Kid 2: dammit, our keylogger broke again. We gotta call the hobo down the street again.....

Absolutivity 01/02/2010 21:04

Lol, I wanna run aMax on them, just to see what they'd do.

pawntobishop 01/03/2010 00:43

So, how many of us have actually suffered at the hands of this "great rebalancing"? XD

Uncreative. 01/03/2010 01:05

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Originally Posted by pawntobishop (Post 3823924)
So, how many of us have actually suffered at the hands of this "great rebalancing"? XD

1. Maybe 2. If they're lucky, 3.

Checkbox 01/03/2010 02:08

Has anyone read [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]?

AKB990 01/03/2010 04:01

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Originally Posted by Checkbox (Post 3824441)
Has anyone read [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]?

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That's the best post of the thread...

pawntobishop 01/03/2010 04:32

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Originally Posted by Uncreative. (Post 3824070)
1. Maybe 2. If they're lucky, 3.

That's exactly what i thought... do they not understand that those who know what they are doing try to do it themselves and won't download the infected files to begin with?

Uncreative. 01/03/2010 04:51

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Originally Posted by pawntobishop (Post 3824957)
That's exactly what i thought... do they not understand that those who know what they are doing try to do it themselves and won't download the infected files to begin with?

ikr. I think only one person downloaded the bullshit anti keylogger

Checkbox 01/03/2010 06:40

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Originally Posted by AKB990 (Post 3824886)
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That's the best post of the thread...

Uh, his information is wrong. Although you can't use one of those public keylogger creation programs, nothing stops you from making dlls execute malicious code. You just have to know what you're doing.

By the way, is it me or has no one heard from Dark Raccoon since The Order showed up? You'd figure when you get mentioned in his introductory post, you'd throw in a comment or two about the situation. Although given the shadiness of his recent posts, I'm more inclined to think there may be a common link.

Oh yeah. If anyone remember the l/p of the account that was "hacked" in The Order's introductory post with Chosen's account info (same guy who posted that AntiLogger), the password was "htzuw3rm".

Take a look at this video- [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

"Account hacked in the Video:
lolaffe; htzuw3rm"

Freaking shady.

adam_j 01/03/2010 06:52

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Originally Posted by Uncreative. (Post 3824995)
ikr. I think only one person downloaded the bullshit anti keylogger

Untrue.

Both me AND kev downloaded it, and decompiled it.

So, no-one actually ran it (maribot signed up that day, and only posted in that one thread. You do the math).

AKB990 01/03/2010 07:01

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Originally Posted by Checkbox (Post 3825203)
Uh, his information is wrong. Although you can't use one of those public keylogger creation programs, nothing stops you from making dlls execute malicious code. You just have to know what you're doing.

By the way, is it me or has no one heard from Dark Raccoon since The Order showed up? You'd figure when you get mentioned in his introductory post, you'd throw in a comment or two about the situation. Although given the shadiness of his recent posts, I'm more inclined to think there may be a common link.

Oh yeah. If anyone remember the l/p of the account that was "hacked" in The Order's introductory post with Chosen's account info (same guy who posted that AntiLogger), the password was "htzuw3rm".

Take a look at this video- [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

"Account hacked in the Video:
lolaffe; htzuw3rm"

Freaking shady.

Though the bytes of the DLL would be completely different from the original dll would it not?

Also... that is kinda odd...

Checkbox 01/03/2010 07:08

Notice that is [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]'s YouTube account.

Regarding the DLL stuff- Yes, if you use a proxying dll, it will be completely different from the original. Although if you're feeling extremely dedicated, you can pull something similar to how Jinsu handles things and stick the extra code in the empty space near the beginning of the file. It isn't practical, but not impossible.

Also, on the topic, does anyone not see it unusual that there has been a dramatic increase in this type of behavior after Dark Raccoon outburst and subsequent ban from this forum?

Now, this may be just a coincidence-
Register an account on hackforums.net and take a look at the posts by [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Take a look at this Nexon thread- [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]
Now take a look at this thread made 2 days later- [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Now now, maybe that is just a coincidence. A fairly unique line being used twice in a short timespan that *happen* to be Mabinogi related. Maybe I'm just looking too close into the issue.

Although, this unfortunately, may not be a coincidence- [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]. There is a followup response by "[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]."

Something is really messed up here. Is it just me or does it appear that Dark Raccoon is involved with this current situation? I reviewed the posts by DeadlyPixel and they don't do very well to reinforce Dark Raccoon's claim that he was hacked. It would explain why he wouldn't reveal the identity of the hacker though as it is possible that they are the same person. The "[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]" connection seems it will be pretty hard to throw away as a coincidence and with that talk about hacking accounts seems reasonable that there is a definite relation between the two.

By the way, it should be noted this [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] was bumped shortly after Dark Raccoon lost senior member status on the mabimods forum.

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redjoker5 01/03/2010 08:54

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Originally Posted by Checkbox (Post 3825260)
Notice that is [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]'s YouTube account.

Regarding the DLL stuff- Yes, if you use a proxying dll, it will be completely different from the original. Although if you're feeling extremely dedicated, you can pull something similar to how Jinsu handles things and stick the extra code in the empty space near the beginning of the file. It isn't practical, but not impossible.

Also, on the topic, does anyone not see it unusual that there has been a dramatic increase in this type of behavior after Dark Raccoon outburst and subsequent ban from this forum?

Now, this may be just a coincidence-
Register an account on hackforums.net and take a look at the posts by [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Take a look at this Nexon thread- [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]
Now take a look at this thread made 2 days later- [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Now now, maybe that is just a coincidence. A fairly unique line being used twice in a short timespan that *happen* to be Mabinogi related. Maybe I'm just looking too close into the issue.

Although, this unfortunately, may not be a coincidence- [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]. There is a followup response by "[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]."

Something is really messed up here. Is it just me or does it appear that Dark Raccoon is involved with this current situation? I reviewed the posts by DeadlyPixel and they don't do very well to reinforce Dark Raccoon's claim that he was hacked. It would explain why he wouldn't reveal the identity of the hacker though as it is possible that they are the same person. The "htzuw3rm" connection seems it will be pretty hard to throw away as a coincidence.

By the way, it should be noted this [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] was bumped shortly after Dark Raccoon lost senior member status on the mabimods forum.

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So basically, Raccoon is acting like a supervillain now to fuck us over? Rofl. What a douche.

shadowsforu 01/03/2010 16:25

Funny thing is they didn't even MAKE this.

They stole it off some BS server that had a file with a keylogger, and said they made it.

Sad boobies.

Uncreative. 01/03/2010 19:47

I lol'd hard when i saw the screenshot where he was offering $45 for mabimod's admin user and pass. So THIS is the "The Order" noob. Ah. Why am I not surprised..

MabiRaccoon 01/03/2010 20:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Checkbox (Post 3825260)
Notice that is [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]'s YouTube account.

Regarding the DLL stuff- Yes, if you use a proxying dll, it will be completely different from the original. Although if you're feeling extremely dedicated, you can pull something similar to how Jinsu handles things and stick the extra code in the empty space near the beginning of the file. It isn't practical, but not impossible.

Also, on the topic, does anyone not see it unusual that there has been a dramatic increase in this type of behavior after Dark Raccoon outburst and subsequent ban from this forum?

Now, this may be just a coincidence-
Register an account on hackforums.net and take a look at the posts by [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Take a look at this Nexon thread- [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]
Now take a look at this thread made 2 days later- [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Now now, maybe that is just a coincidence. A fairly unique line being used twice in a short timespan that *happen* to be Mabinogi related. Maybe I'm just looking too close into the issue.

Although, this unfortunately, may not be a coincidence- [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]. There is a followup response by "[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]."

Something is really messed up here. Is it just me or does it appear that Dark Raccoon is involved with this current situation? I reviewed the posts by DeadlyPixel and they don't do very well to reinforce Dark Raccoon's claim that he was hacked. It would explain why he wouldn't reveal the identity of the hacker though as it is possible that they are the same person. The "[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]" connection seems it will be pretty hard to throw away as a coincidence and with that talk about hacking accounts seems reasonable that there is a definite relation between the two.

By the way, it should be noted this [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] was bumped shortly after Dark Raccoon lost senior member status on the mabimods forum.

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Geez, you guys are just realizing what has been going on? :<

You people are dense, it's me, so what?

I even told you guys it was me in this post [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

I don't blame you guys, I am pretty awesome with this. :P

Blade3575 01/03/2010 20:13

Hahah I'm not going to lie, you pretty much suck at that =P

AKB990 01/03/2010 22:15

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Originally Posted by MabiRaccoon (Post 3831018)
Geez, you guys are just realizing what has been going on? :<

You people are dense, it's me, so what?

I even told you guys it was me in this post [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

I don't blame you guys, I am pretty awesome with this. :P

Stop trying so hard. You're obviously failing hard. A good "hacker" would not leave traces back to him. Actually, I should call you a leecher seeing as that's what you're doing on HF.

Checkbox you seem quite the conspirator. :p

Uncreative. 01/03/2010 22:25

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Originally Posted by MabiRaccoon (Post 3831018)
Geez, you guys are just realizing what has been going on? :<

You people are dense, it's me, so what?

I even told you guys it was me in this post [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

I don't blame you guys, I am pretty awesome with this. :P

So, paying people to hack for you, writing a shitty virus in AutoIT, and writing a horribly obvious keylogger is considered awesome? Hmmmm....

Checkbox 01/03/2010 22:29

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Originally Posted by AKB990 (Post 3832319)
Checkbox you seem quite the conspirator. :p

I'm quite the conspiracy nut, everything seemed to fall into place after he posted the account info of Chosen.

I actually did expect Dark Raccoon to put up more of a fight, but meh. I guess I get the [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] ending.

shadowsforu 01/04/2010 00:42

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Originally Posted by Uncreative. (Post 3830734)
I lol'd hard when i saw the screenshot where he was offering $45 for mabimod's admin user and pass. So THIS is the "The Order" noob. Ah. Why am I not surprised..



LOL, I just had a great idea. Create fake admin account, email him info, and get the money, then switch it to regular user before Dark Idiot can do anything.

AKB990 01/04/2010 00:52

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Originally Posted by shadowsforu (Post 3833627)
LOL, I just had a great idea. Create fake admin account, email him info, and get the money, then switch it to regular user before Dark Idiot can do anything.

He's still on these forums...

Uncreative. 01/04/2010 01:21

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Originally Posted by AKB990 (Post 3833729)
He's still on these forums...

I fucking lol'd so hard at this.

jemstone1 01/04/2010 02:28

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Originally Posted by Uncreative. (Post 3833959)
I fucking lol'd so hard at this.

as did i :D

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Originally Posted by Uncreative. (Post 3832425)
So, paying people to hack for you, writing a shitty virus in AutoIT, and writing a horribly obvious keylogger is considered awesome? Hmmmm....

to be fair either he used multi noob accounts (which was horribley obvious to) or our noobs work against themselves, either way he got alot of believers... and they were likely destroyed despite being smacked when they reached for the cookie in the cookie jar :3

i came at the right time to these forums cause this is kinda fun :D gives me something to do :3

JDOGSAMA 01/04/2010 03:43

From Skarllette [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Quote:

At first 'The Order' was Frank (Shuren, Ruairi) trying to scare some modders/hackers/scammers. After most of us guessed it was him, he let it die.

Dark Raccoon, however, saw this as a good cover for him to release the range mod, keyloggers, etc while under the cover of 'The Order'.

So now, Dark Raccoon is The Order.

From what Ty's told me, he's some rich German kid who has no skill with programming, hacking, or anything of the sort. ;|

Just be aware of that and don't DL anything from the Mysterious's, The Order, or Dark Raccoon
Ruairi
Biteme/Skarllette
Martyr

Uncreative. 01/04/2010 04:07

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Originally Posted by JDOGSAMA (Post 3834711)
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We've already established that DR is "The Order", captain obvious.

redjoker5 01/04/2010 04:08

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Originally Posted by JDOGSAMA (Post 3834711)
From Skarllette [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Rofl. Raccoon is a douche. You should have all listened to me when I told you all to let the kid's legacy die when he got banned. But no. You had to make all these threads saying "farewell, raccoon we love you" or stupid little explanation threads. So he is doing this now so he can stay "in the spotlight" so to speak.

And I want to say nice job to those idiots who let him on the UG knowing damn well all he has done since he got here was post other peoples work as his own by just changing the name to something raccoon-themed. Now god knows how many game breaking mods he has that he will either release and destroy the game or send to nexon so they patch it. Either way you're all fucked.

I wanna say it again...Nice job.

JDOGSAMA 01/04/2010 04:32

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Originally Posted by Uncreative. (Post 3834782)
We've already established that DR is "The Order", captain obvious.

Well just pointing out DR was not the original "The Order." Like his keylogger, he took it from someone else.

redjoker5 01/04/2010 04:34

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Originally Posted by JDOGSAMA (Post 3834828)
Well just pointing out DR was not the original "The Order." Like his keylogger, he took it from someone else.

Yeah he is known for taking "his" stuff from other people. Let the idiot be forgotten already! I don't know how this MMORPG drama is still not over. "OMG Dark Raccoon the former modder is now leading a crusade against modders and he is deleting and keylogging accounts!!!"

This sounds like some movie shit. Stop watching Code Geass and live your goddamn lives. Especially you, Douche-raccoon.

shzukahime 01/04/2010 05:22

Submit to the will of Britannia!

shadowsforu 01/04/2010 05:25

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Originally Posted by AKB990 (Post 3833729)
He's still on these forums...

Don't care, Lol.

It was just a funny idea. Like I'd ever give anyone administrator without talking to Serif first.

adam_j 01/04/2010 05:33

I expected to come back to people finishing their plans to lynch him.



...


I'm disappointed in you guys.

and you pretty much gave me admin Marck ._.;
Well, I can promote myself, which makes me lol.

pawntobishop 01/04/2010 05:49

This whole situation makes me want to write a novel about love, respect, and betrayal XD.

jemstone1 01/04/2010 06:00

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Originally Posted by redjoker5 (Post 3834787)
Now god knows how many game breaking mods he has that he will either release and destroy the game or send to nexon so they patch it. Either way you're all fucked.

so you dont want other people to have them cause its game breaking and you dont want the gamebreaking thing patched so you can use it? explain wtf your morals are cause you've really scethchy through this the order thing XD

redjoker5 01/04/2010 06:43

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Originally Posted by jemstone1 (Post 3834998)
so you dont want other people to have them cause its game breaking and you dont want the gamebreaking thing patched so you can use it? explain wtf your morals are cause you've really scethchy through this the order thing XD

Personally, I could care less about this internet game drama. I mean yeah some stuff will break the game and some stuff will be abused, but that's what you get for allowing scum like raccoon into the UG. And read what you said again. The less people that have this stuff the least likely it is that it gets patched. What I DO agree on is RESPONSIBLE people having the stuff. Not just people that can code because as we have witnessed this past week, a knowledgeable person does not necessarily equal a trustworthy one.

So to wrap up my feelings about this "the order" business:

-Raccoon is a douchebag.

-Please stop leaking this stuff so the noobs don't abuse it and/or it gets patched. I want the good mods too but I would rather work for them and try to do them myself/with a group if it keeps them from getting patched and abused by noobs.

-Let me in the UG! I don't know jackshit about code but I can sure keep my mouth shut.

-Raccoon is a douchebag.


Any questions?

jemstone1 01/04/2010 07:12

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Originally Posted by redjoker5 (Post 3835087)
-Let me in the UG! I don't know jackshit about code but I can sure keep my mouth shut.

just on that. learn to code, why should they let you in if you have nothing to contribute? learn to code like the rest of us post a few and mabye then you can get it ;p me i like to keep em to myself :3

btw like my sig? :D

redjoker5 01/04/2010 09:37

I am not gonna learn to code. I just don't find coding interesting enough to pick it up and definitely not interesting enough to get good at it. I am a graphics guy. I would love to help make GUI's for bots and stuff like that but code-wise I just mess around with dll using what little knowledge I got. And i don't expect to get in, god knows they just want coders so we can all laugh when something like this happens again with the next one that goes on a rage. But it doesn't hurt to try. :o

Checkbox 01/04/2010 09:57

If you're not going to actively create your own works, then generally your best bet is to become a good friend of someone who either does create their own works or have connection to those who do.

While saying that you are a cool guy who doesn't leak should have merit, to most people, you are a complete stranger. There really isn't much weight to your promise not to distribute. I have shared works with people who have no idea on how to mod, those are people that I have dealt with for a significant amount of time and provided an impression that they weren't going to be morons with what I give them. There was a significant amount of time for trust to develop and certainly, they weren't looking for anything out of me.

Of course, I also dealt with people who received my works off the basis they said they wouldn't distribute. Now I have a retarded situation with my collection of mods floating about. I'm not saying that will be the same for you, but generally, people don't like taking unnecessary risks.

redjoker5 01/04/2010 10:11

Well I know what my morals are and what I believe on. I would love to get a chance to prove myself with someone. But I doubt a random coder is gonna look at me and say "hmmm I'm gonna see if he is trustworthy so he can leech off my work".

I am just a guy that wants to get the most out of the game he plays. I have a guild I love, a best friend and a cousin who play with me, and that's all I really need. If mods were easy to make I would get past my dislike for coding and I would learn some stuff. But they are not. So I just lurk around here trying to give my 2 cents wherever I can so people don't call me a leech just because I can't make stuff like they can.

Checkbox 01/04/2010 10:50

Your best chance if you want to prove yourself is just to interact with those involved in modding ingame. Ruiari is ridiculously full of people who share. The fact everyone refers to each other by first name shows that Ruiari players are excessively friendly.

You won't get very far lurking around here nor should there be expectations to. Anything decent tends to be produced outside of the public community with public exposure caused by leaks.

Another way to look at it, Fantasia's source has been available for several months now and the only person who has done anything publically with it is Tyne.

Let me tell you one thing though, this is important so listen up- You don't have to be a coder to have value to those involved in modding. There are those who are exceptional at information gathering and for groups who already have coders, those who are capable of acquiring information that hasn't hit public knowledge are considered to be an indispensable asset.

For example, the range mod is stupidly simple. Knowing that there was a range mod was the hard part. The exploit itself existed for years. It's now just another of the exploits NA Mabi destroyed for the rest of the world.


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