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Acid 04/11/2009 19:31

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Originally Posted by chesta_619 (Post 2039455)
i mean what gear NAMES lol
cuz i know where the main fb gears are. they're in green despair but i wanna noe what the best gear is 2 follow so i can allign my stats to equip them

Best gear? I would go for osm parts, osm battle boots/gloves +6 7% sword amp and an osm battle suit +6 7% sword amp.
If you can't pay the osm boots/gloves try to get the cheaper stita version :)
30% dmg osm helm should do it for the beginning.

mikoro 05/02/2009 16:05

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Originally Posted by NovaCygni (Post 2042423)
Dex FB = PvP
Dex FB = PvE

why DEX not STR can u explain more...

.Kreative 05/02/2009 17:29

because if you get a virtual-stat maker and you add all STR, you will have less attack than going all DEX
tested and approved.

mikoro 05/03/2009 05:38

ok thanks alot ^^, where i can get virtual stat maker ??

.Kreative 05/03/2009 11:38

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here it is.

mikoro 05/03/2009 16:04

thanks so much......^^

mikoro 05/06/2009 09:25

one more question what better combo combination for fb...

d'Jew 05/06/2009 10:30

Force Blader needs DOT (damage over time) to function well in pvp , here is what I use :

PvP : Force Assault (lvl 20) > Force Slash (lvl 20) > Completer (lvl 9) > Force Assault (lvl 20) > Force Slash (lvl 20) and G.M as finisher , if you want a fast pve combo use G.M at level 9 , if you don't want to include G.M in pve and just use it in PvP put lvl 20

PvE : Most easy combo : G.M > Stigma > Comp > Stigma =)

Pupix 05/15/2009 15:04

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Originally Posted by mikoro (Post 2152463)
why DEX not STR can u explain more...

From DEX u'll get more bonus points than from STR,it's something like

1 STR Point= 0.23 Attack | 0.15 Magic Attack | 0.125 Defense | 0.4 Hit Rate | 0.1 Defense Rate
1 INT Point = 0.1 Attack | 0.3 Magic Attack | 0.1 Defense | 0.4 Hit Rate | 0.1 Defense Rate
1 Dex Point= 0.23 Attack | 0.25 Magic Attack | 0.125 Defense | 1.75 Hit Rate | 1 Defense Rate

p.s: are not the exactly values but are rly close

Stats Points on lvl 170 need to be like this STR=309 INT=309 DEX=646 ,are exactly to wear
forcium +7


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Originally Posted by mikoro (Post 2168573)
one more question what better combo combination for fb...

For low class rank, start from distance

Force kick(20)->Assault(20)->Completer(9) ->Assault(20)->Force Slash(20)->G.M(20)->Completer(9)->A.Master(20) like finisher

For high class rank

Assault(20)->Force Slash(20)->Completer(9) ->Assault(20)->Force Slash(20)->G.M(20)->Completer(9)->A.Master(20) like finisher

[G.M is a good way to crit,i critted 1.7k with 130% CD on a lvl 150 WI full osmium +6 ]

PvE: Completer(9)->DoR(20)->Force Slash(20)->Stigma(18)

When u get class rank 15 or 18 the DOT/Debuff effect from skills will be one over another like -64HP from Assault -64HP from Force Slash - 64HP from Assault = -192HP when u use skills in this order on class rank 18,u'll get around -500HP in a pvp just from DOTs


Ask me all what u want to know about FB,i played a year with it :P

.Law. 05/15/2009 16:25

If ur class rank 18 and u got around 120% crit dmg(on pserver)u dont need more then 5 combos for a pvp

PwnOrOwn 06/10/2009 23:21

ive got a question about the FB:

1. when im attacking a mob and start with a dot skill and then im using other skills, i cant see the dot dmg, but when i dont attack with other skills, then i can see the dot dmg.
Q: in the first opinion, is the opponent still suffering of the effect from the dot skill?

.Kreative 06/11/2009 07:13

Yes, of course he is, you just don't see it because of the other damage you inflict.

PwnOrOwn 06/11/2009 14:09

ive got another question... what is better for a FB in TG/PvE/PvP

Tit. boots +7 +7% Amp +80HP
Osm Boots +6 +7% Amp (Expensive)
Terragrace Boots +6 +7% Amp (very expensive) or +5% amp or
Tit. boots +9 +240HP (80+60 extend +40+70HPcraft) ?

.Kreative 06/11/2009 16:04

FBs need a lot of AMP in PvP

sascha89 06/12/2009 13:00

what does a warrior need than?
amp, critc rate or just a lot hp?
and is it better to put stat points into dex or is dex only for FB?

Pupix 06/12/2009 15:20

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Originally Posted by -TuxifieD- (Post 2357215)
FBs need a lot of AMP in PvP

Epic Phail....

FB needs a lot Crit Dmg in pvp because he is not a high dmg/def class,he needs to kill faster with high crits. With +150% Crit Dmg you can feel the difference

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Originally Posted by sascha89 (Post 2361783)
what does a warrior need than?
amp, critc rate or just a lot hp?
and is it better to put stat points into dex or is dex only for FB?

A warrior can be full amp with short skills/full crit based on GM skill/amp+crit with mixed skills
Full amp is good vs WI/FA/FB/BL
For full crit WA you need luck to get a crit but if you do that it rocks
The most simple WA is amp+crit but you need a very good combo
The HP is not a problem because you will get 3k+ at lvl 170

For FB max what you need is Str 309( Forcium+7) Int 309(Forcium+7) Dex XXX(all another points here)

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Originally Posted by PwnOrOwn (Post 2356648)
ive got another question... what is better for a FB in TG/PvE/PvP

Tit. boots +7 +7% Amp +80HP
Osm Boots +6 +7% Amp (Expensive)
Terragrace Boots +6 +7% Amp (very expensive) or +5% amp or
Tit. boots +9 +240HP (80+60 extend +40+70HPcraft) ?

From your list Teragrace boots +6 +7amp but the best is Osmium Boots +7 +7%amp from craft + 100HP in slot or a Mithril with 7% / 14% amp

P.S.: Tuxy take your hands off from FBs :P

.Kreative 06/12/2009 15:33

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Originally Posted by Pupix (Post 2362744)
Epic Phail....

FB needs a lot Crit Dmg in pvp because he is not a high dmg/def class,he needs to kill faster with high crits. With +150% Crit Dmg you can feel the difference



A warrior can be full amp with short skills/full crit based on GM skill/amp+crit with mixed skills
Full amp is good vs WI/FA/FB/BL
For full crit WA you need luck to get a crit but if you dit that it rocks
The most simple WA is amp+crit but you need a very good combo
The HP is not a problem because you will get 3k+ at lvl 170

For FB max what you need is Str 309( Forcium+7) Int 309(Forcium+7) Dex XXX(all another points here)

i bolded the "epic phails" in your post
and FBs use DOT mainly, so they need amp.
and, doing some easy maths, you can see that, if you go on a full amp build, rather than a full crit build... amp > crit, especially if you have no base rate.
(which i remember they don't)
so, if you wanna go for a sure win, put amp.
if you have enough money to buy CRIT + CRIT RATE, then buy it.

Pupix 06/12/2009 15:50

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Originally Posted by -TuxifieD- (Post 2362867)
i bolded the "epic phails" in your post
and FBs use DOT mainly, so they need amp.
and, doing some easy maths, you can see that, if you go on a full amp build, rather than a full crit build... amp > crit, especially if you have no base rate.
(which i remember they don't)
so, if you wanna go for a sure win, put amp.
if you have enough money to buy CRIT + CRIT RATE, then buy it.

just if you start to read the amp and crit dmg you can see wich one is too good(for FB)...

10% crit dmg = 7%amp
20% crit dmg > 7% amp
20%crit dmg = 14% amp
30/40% crit dmg >>>>>>>> 14%amp

cry more please T_T
(BITE ME!! i want to rise my post count ^_^)

sascha89 06/12/2009 23:24

i wanted to ask if a warrior need dex or str? ^^

orovin 06/13/2009 05:04

so FBlv170 can stack 3 blades and WA +3000 hp
what what about WI, FA and FS and
blader lv170 what is the bonus?

.Kreative 06/13/2009 11:02

Warriors go on STR, if you want to use GS (great sword) or DEX, if you want daikatana.
@orovin : well, actually, they (FB/WA) don't GET the +3k hp, they get those from buffs (WA- 2/3 hp buffs / FB - 3 blade buffs) , so do the WI/FA/FS/BL - BL has a lot of dmg because of the many buffs, FA ... lot of healing and stuff , WI... not pretty much... FS...again, not that much.
You could do a google search on the rank up rewards.

Pupix 06/13/2009 14:28

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Originally Posted by -TuxifieD- (Post 2367245)
Warriors go on STR, if you want to use GS (great sword) or DEX, if you want daikatana.
@orovin : well, actually, they (FB/WA) don't GET the +3k hp, they get those from buffs (WA- 2/3 hp buffs / FB - 3 blade buffs) , so do the WI/FA/FS/BL - BL has a lot of dmg because of the many buffs

Do not use a WA full DEX :facepalm: ,you need points on DEX just to use a daikatana
WA has 3k hp without buffs, with buffs(from all classes) a WA has 6k+ HP
BL has a lot def rate(3-4k),nor very much damage from buffs but on almost all skills you can find a bonus of Crit Dmg and Crit Rate

P.S.:Stop to answer wrong things to ppl :D

.Kreative 06/13/2009 15:19

erm, please read my post again. i reported yours for off-topic. you just said the same thing i said.
(i said +3k hp, not ONLY 3k hp, +3k hp WITH buffs, but you're... nevermind)
and i never said FULL DEX i said STR or DEX for GS and daikatana, whatever you want to use. but i saw dex WAs too, so PLEASE
Quote:

stop to answer wrong things to ppl
- stop "to write" things in a german/english forum if you don't know how to speak.

Type69 06/13/2009 16:56

1240 DEX vs 1240 STR (you are not going to have such stats, I used strong comparison to be more exact on rather small differences)

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So, by going from DEX to STR on this rather silly example you get:

+12 attack
- 246 magic (your magic boosts your attack, hp and defense over bm1 ...)
- 1658 attack rate (rofl? how are you going to hit anything over bm2 with this? lolollol LOL)
- 1105 defense rate (cool, every mob will hit you all the time and you will die like last noob, great choice haha)


If we distributed stats in more smart way, e.g. to wear full battle osmium +6 and osmium blade, sth like 283 STR 223 INT rest DEX and then converted to full STR (223 DEX 223 INT rest STR) then you would get around +6-7 attack points more, lose around 120 magic, 800 hit rate and 550 def rate. Definitely NOT WORTH IT.

PS. Guys, don't argue over such simple things, it's pointless

.Kreative 06/13/2009 20:37

So basically what type69 said (i like that number, erm... becuz of many things XD). is that for 12 attack you get more magic, attack rate and defense rate. 12 attack. guyz, wtf?
altho, i'd go on a more of a hybrid-ish thing anyway.
thanks for screening it.

oWnEdU 06/19/2009 21:26

Also ich bin deutsch und wollte ma fragen ob cabal geld kostet ?? Und wo lad ich das Runter ?? pls privat melden

-Chrome- 06/20/2009 00:48

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Originally Posted by Metin2Freakii (Post 2403773)
Also ich bin deutsch und wollte ma fragen ob cabal geld kostet ?? Und wo lad ich das Runter ?? pls privat melden

wie du am threadnamen erkennen kannst ist das kein thread um fragen über cabal zu stellen, sondern nur über die klassen.
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Patoli 07/13/2009 00:22

Wizard - Allgemeine Fragen
 
Hey liebe Community,

Ich hab keine Ahnung wie ich den Wizard skillen soll? (int, str,..)
Ich weiß nicht wie ich einen Skill freischalte..

Ich weiß nicht zu welchen Mobs ich gehen soll? (Lvl,...)
Wo kann ich mir Pots kaufen.
Wie lange dauert es auf lvl 120 zu kommen?

Welcher Character macht am meisten DMG?
Was bringt dies Cheat Engine?

-Chrome- 07/13/2009 01:08

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Originally Posted by Patoli (Post 2548676)
Ich hab keine Ahnung wie ich den Wizard skillen soll? (int, str,..)

Soviel wie möglich auf INT, STR war glaub ich ca. 58 und DEX weiss ich nicht.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patoli (Post 2548676)
Ich weiß nicht wie ich einen Skill freischalte..

K drücken, höheres skill level -> mehr skills beim NPC auswählbar
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patoli (Post 2548676)
Ich weiß nicht zu welchen Mobs ich gehen soll? (Lvl,...)

M drücken, unten auf der Karte kannst du ein Häkchen setzen worauf dir die Monstergebiete in Farbe angezeigt werden.
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Originally Posted by Patoli (Post 2548676)
Wo kann ich mir Pots kaufen.

Bei NPCs.
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Originally Posted by Patoli (Post 2548676)
Wie lange dauert es auf lvl 120 zu kommen?

Je nachdem wieviel du spielst.. Wenn kann sich auskennt dauert es nicht lange.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patoli (Post 2548676)
Welcher Character macht am meisten DMG?

Ausgewogen
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Originally Posted by Patoli (Post 2548676)
Was bringt dies Cheat Engine?

Mit einer CE kannst du bestimmte Werte ändern, z.B. die Angriffsreichweite deines Charakters.

Patoli 07/13/2009 11:47

Danke für die Antworten!!

Edit:
Bin nun schon Lvl 12 und das Spiel macht sehr viel Spaß :D, aber paar fragen habe ich da noch?

1. Sind Skillpoints an Char. und Level gebunden? (Wizard Lvl 16 = 20 SP? Kann man es beeinflussen?)
2. Wie kann man ein höheres Mastery erreichen? (Bin lvl 13 und noch immer im Novice)
3. Kann es sein das man automatisch Str- und Dexpoints bekommt, obwohl nur Int ausgewählt wurden ist?
4. Kann man geskillte Attacken verlernen? (Wenn ja, bekommt die SPs wieder zurück? Gibt es eine Grenze? Muss man etwas dafür tuen?)
5. Wenn man stirbt bekommt man doch -2 HP & -2 MP (kann höher werden) und ein roter Balken erscheint, hat das irrgendwelche Auswirkungen auf den Char.?
6. Ich weiß leider nicht wann ich auf Dex und Str skillen soll, wäre nett würde jemand einen Link für ein/e Tutorial/Guide für Wizards posten. (Hab im Forum leider nichts gefunden.)
7. Kann man verteilte Stats (Str.,Int. und Dex) wieder rückgängig machen? (Wenn ja, wie? Gibt es eine Grenze? Muss man etwas dafür tuen?)

mikoro 07/18/2009 07:04

english plz...

and what good combo combination for WA for PVP, PVE and WAR
thanks

-Chrome- 07/18/2009 19:48

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Originally Posted by Patoli (Post 2550407)
1. Sind Skillpoints an Char. und Level gebunden? (Wizard Lvl 16 = 20 SP? Kann man es beeinflussen?)

Was genau meints du mit skillpoints? Die Punkte mit denen du deine skills erhöhst? Davon hat fast jeder Charakter gleichviel, Magier haben allerdings z.B. mehr Magiepunkte als ein Krieger.

SP bezeichnet bei Cabal nämlich die gelbe Anzeige oben links unter deinem Mana.

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Originally Posted by Patoli (Post 2550407)
2. Wie kann man ein höheres Mastery erreichen? (Bin lvl 13 und noch immer im Novice)

Bei dem skillrank steht eine Zahl dran, z.B. 12/21. Damit hättest du 12 level von 21, bei 21 steigst du einen skillrank auf. Die Zahl erhöht sich wenn du skills benutzt (egal welche skills).

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Originally Posted by Patoli (Post 2550407)
3. Kann es sein das man automatisch Str- und Dexpoints bekommt, obwohl nur Int ausgewählt wurden ist?

Ein skillrank gibt dir automatisch 2 Attribute. Sword gibt STR/DEX und Magic gibt DEX/INT. Je höher der skillrank ist, desto höher ist der Attributbonus.

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Originally Posted by Patoli (Post 2550407)
4. Kann man geskillte Attacken verlernen? (Wenn ja, bekommt die SPs wieder zurück? Gibt es eine Grenze? Muss man etwas dafür tuen?)

Bei der Attacke ist ein " + " und ein " - ". + erhöht das Level des skills, - verringert es. Wenn bei Level 1 auf das - gedrückt wird, wird der skill verlernt. Es kostet lediglich Alz (Geld), man kann also rein theoretisch unendlich mal neu skillen.

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Originally Posted by Patoli (Post 2550407)
5. Wenn man stirbt bekommt man doch -2 HP & -2 MP (kann höher werden) und ein roter Balken erscheint, hat das irrgendwelche Auswirkungen auf den Char.?

Death penalty. Wenn du stirbst wird ein bestimmter Prozentsatz zu deinem penalty. Man verliert keine Erfahrung oder sonstwas, man muss nur neue Erfahrung sammeln um den penalty abzubauen.

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Originally Posted by Patoli (Post 2550407)
6. Ich weiß leider nicht wann ich auf Dex und Str skillen soll, wäre nett würde jemand einen Link für ein/e Tutorial/Guide für Wizards posten. (Hab im Forum leider nichts gefunden.)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Patoli (Post 2550407)
7. Kann man verteilte Stats (Str.,Int. und Dex) wieder rückgängig machen? (Wenn ja, wie? Gibt es eine Grenze? Muss man etwas dafür tuen?)

Es gibt keine Grenzen. Es gibt extract potions, die jeweils einen Punkt des Attributes abziehen.

monoxx8 07/23/2009 17:50

hi all can u tell me what is good combo for wizard?

mikoro 07/25/2009 03:58

u can use GM(9)-Lance(20)-lance(20)-lance(20)-comp(9) repeat

tablo 07/31/2009 11:15

WA compared to FS (sword FS)

WA is said to be the highest damage disher, but he still depends on crits (average gear).
FS, on the other hand, can focus on crit damage because of his 25 crit rate buff.
PLUS his completer has +100crit damage built in, which using average gear can add up to an outstanding total of 50% crit rate +250% crit damage(!)

Can a WA really beat this thing?

-Chrome- 07/31/2009 16:11

WA can beat this for sure.

horrorblaster 07/31/2009 22:08

hi I'm from germany and my english is not very good (I use a translator) and wanted time to ask whether there is a German version of the cabal are left un please, and more
> vertauschen

-Chrome- 08/01/2009 00:03

cabal is english, there does not exist a german version


cabal gibt es nur in englisch

rhoi19 08/04/2009 07:00

what do you think guyz?>? im talking about WI

what should be better??

FULL CRI SET= its give you more critical (your attack always critical 4/5 per hit sometimes 5/5)
FULL CDI set= higher chance to increase critical rate (but low chance to hit by crit 3/5 per hit)
combination of CDI and CRI= increase dmg and crit rate of your attack (but it always hit as normal 2/5 per hit)

-Chrome- 08/04/2009 16:00

just use both...


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