Free FFXIV Craft Bot - Craft While Minimized! (Limited Time)

[Aethenoth]

Originally Posted by lucid

Thanks for the encouragement, it just sucks when things still don't work for everyone after a week. It would be nice if I could see it happen on a computer, but I guess I will have to make the program get debug info from someone who does experience it. The problem is not knowing which information is going to be relevant to the issue.

For anyone who has the problem with abilities: Does your computer have a difficult time running the game? Perhaps the issue happens on computers that are slow, so they take longer to load values into memory?

The problem with abilities does not seem related to code (a "bug"), it appears to be memory or latency-related.

Hate to tell you (but not really) that I have no issues with the current version so far... I never use any abilities besides preserve, and for your sanity I added all but fulfilment, because I don't have it yet.

Comments:

Hasty Hands- Works every time. I've done a r21 recipe as r24 and gotten 6/9 successes.

On the Hasty hands failures: Preserve is chosen when it is alone.

When Tender Touch proc'd within the 3 turns of Preserve, it was skipped properly.

When Tender Touch proc'd alone it was chosen.

When Hasty Hands and Preserve proc'd, Hasty Hands was chosen.

When Hasty Hands proc'd without it being checked it does not get chosen >.>

It seems it always chooses "wait" over an ability that helps the synth when it is unstable or prismatic. Would choosing preserve over wait be more beneficial?

I have not been able to watch it choose between Tender Touch and Preserve. I suppose you have it set to whatever one is on top (in this case I think its Preserve)

I set it to synth when I knew I'd run out of crystals. After running out the program sits still (No button presses cursor hovers on "Main Hand", HOWEVER I have the After Synthesis option set to do nothing. I do not know if this is functional however because "Stop" and "Pause" are pressable leading me to believe the bot is being polite and waiting for lag.

Clicking on the game to type between synths causes MK to only choose standard and not recognize abilities (a non issue, I shouldn't be touching it)



Feedback:
New UI looks good! Like being able to see synth stats in the stats tab. My laptop is a gaming. Rig. You already know I can run 3 copies at the same time, and have had no issues having them all craft. In relation to all releases of MK I've had NO issues that weren't caused by me (setting up dual botting incorectly, opening MK before FFXIV, ect) so I think it MIGHT be a latency thing thats causing others issues. I hope this is the case.. Seems like your code is solid.

Suggestions: Can you modify the input when "Pause" is chosen? I would like (and others too hopefully) to be able to pause the synth and then switch abilities. I paused the bot to take off hasty hands, only to realize I'd have to choose "Stop" instead.

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[lucid]

Aethenoth: Everything other than what I've commented on sounds like it is working as expected. If anything was overlooked, let me know.

Originally Posted by Aethenoth

It seems it always chooses "wait" over an ability that helps the synth when it is unstable or prismatic. Would choosing preserve over wait be more beneficial?

This should not be the case.

Abilities are currently prioritized as follows (whether or not optimal): Hasty Hand, Preserve, Fulfillment, Tender Touch

Abilities are used before wait. Preserve is not used until 20% or greater progress. Even at 20%+ progress, unstable and prismatic, preserve would not trigger if some other ability were used in the past 3 turns (this does not apply to hasty hand. If hasty hand fails, abilities except preserve could be used the first turn).

Originally Posted by Aethenoth

I set it to synth when I knew I'd run out of crystals. After running out the program sits still (No button presses cursor hovers on "Main Hand", HOWEVER I have the After Synthesis option set to do nothing. I do not know if this is functional however because "Stop" and "Pause" are pressable leading me to believe the bot is being polite and waiting for lag.

Yeah, I forgot crystals would run out at a different place than materials, I'll work on that one.

Originally Posted by Aethenoth

Clicking on the game to type between synths causes MK to only choose standard and not recognize abilities (a non issue, I shouldn't be touching it)

If you press control quickly after opening the game, it may still work (depends on your speed, luck). When FFXIV is activated it pretty much always sends one blip of mouse activity that removes the arrow which highlights your selection, so the first keypress from the bot makes that arrow appear and does nothing else. In other words, if the bot has standard selected and you move the mouse, and the bot tries to press UP, ENTER to use hasty hand, the UP keystroke will be "eaten", making the arrow visible on standard, and enter will continue. The ENTER keypress is an exception; it will confirm your selection even if you cannot see the arrow. So in the same circumstance, the ENTER key alone would continue the synth.

Originally Posted by Aethenoth

Feedback:
New UI looks good! Like being able to see synth stats in the stats tab. My laptop is a gaming. Rig. You already know I can run 3 copies at the same time, and have had no issues having them all craft. In relation to all releases of MK I've had NO issues that weren't caused by me (setting up dual botting incorectly, opening MK before FFXIV, ect) so I think it MIGHT be a latency thing thats causing others issues. I hope this is the case.. Seems like your code is solid.

Yeah I was surprised how much I liked having the success/fail stats on that window myself.

It seems like the ability problem is really random... if it is lag-related I can probably work it out with some time and patient testers. It would be helpful to have a better idea of exactly how widespread that problem is (or is not). So far, only pezzjunky has reported the issue. Some others who had problems with abilities in 1.3.2.4 have reported it now working in 1.3.2.5, but apparently that is not the case for everyone.

Originally Posted by Aethenoth

Suggestions: Can you modify the input when "Pause" is chosen? I would like (and others too hopefully) to be able to pause the synth and then switch abilities. I paused the bot to take off hasty hands, only to realize I'd have to choose "Stop" instead.

Would it be ok if you could just click "Stop" while it is paused, and get the expected behavior out of "Stop" (reset UI, stop synthing)? I guess that's the easiest solution; this issue has crossed my mind from time to time but that's the best solution so far.

If not, I guess you'd like the UI reenabled, but the "Synthesize" button should either be disabled, or should change to a "Resume" button? I'm not sure what should happen in that case.

The pause button would be better if it gave more information about when the bot has come to a stop, too - so you can tell when to open the game if it is minimized.



Edit: Anyone other than pezzjunky experiencing the issue with abilities on v1.3.2.5?

[Aethenoth]

I'll comment when I get a full chance, but right now i cant log in to the program.

xiv/tools is not working.... maybe somethings down, if not my end is bad.

Now its working.. Not sure what happened there.

Originally Posted by lucid

Aethenoth: Everything other than what I've commented on sounds like it is working as expected. If anything was overlooked, let me know.



This should not be the case.
It only happened when the synth was prismatic. I don't think there was a skill active, but maybe I wasn't paying attention.
Abilities are currently prioritized as follows (whether or not optimal): Hasty Hand, Preserve, Fulfillment, Tender Touch

Abilities are used before wait. Preserve is not used until 20% or greater progress. Even at 20%+ progress, unstable and prismatic, preserve would not trigger if some other ability were used in the past 3 turns (this does not apply to hasty hand. If hasty hand fails, abilities except preserve could be used the first turn).
Makes much better sense! Now when I see it skip over skills I'll know that its not just a bug


Yeah, I forgot crystals would run out at a different place than materials, I'll work on that one.

I guess I misread the update notes. I thought you meant if crystals run out it'll stop. Good thing that the mats got done first. Most people dont let themselves run out of crystals I'm sure. Not me. I fly by the seat of my spants.

If you press control quickly after opening the game, it may still work (depends on your speed, luck). When FFXIV is activated it pretty much always sends one blip of mouse activity that removes the arrow which highlights your selection, so the first keypress from the bot makes that arrow appear and does nothing else. In other words, if the bot has standard selected and you move the mouse, and the bot tries to press UP, ENTER to use hasty hand, the UP keystroke will be "eaten", making the arrow visible on standard, and enter will continue. The ENTER keypress is an exception; it will confirm your selection even if you cannot see the arrow. So in the same circumstance, the ENTER key alone would continue the synth.
Not too sure what you mean by this one. You mean by clicking control I can keep the window from being touched in order to not disturb the program? What I meant by the only standard synth thing, was after I hit enter to keep the synthesis going, the bot only chose standard synth after that, even with no active skills. I think it was me disturbing the bot. After that I had to close and reopen it to get things going again. This issue was outside typical usage which is why I sad it was essentially a non issue


Yeah I was surprised how much I liked having the success/fail stats on that window myself.

It seems like the ability problem is really random... if it is lag-related I can probably work it out with some time and patient testers. It would be helpful to have a better idea of exactly how widespread that problem is (or is not). So far, only pezzjunky has reported the issue. Some others who had problems with abilities in 1.3.2.4 have reported it now working in 1.3.2.5, but apparently that is not the case for everyone.

I can create some lag and see if that works as well. Just not much opportunity to right this minute

Would it be ok if you could just click "Stop" while it is paused, and get the expected behavior out of "Stop" (reset UI, stop synthing)? I guess that's the easiest solution; this issue has crossed my mind from time to time but that's the best solution so far.

If not, I guess you'd like the UI reenabled, but the "Synthesize" button should either be disabled, or should change to a "Resume" button? I'm not sure what should happen in that case.

The pause button would be better if it gave more information about when the bot has come to a stop, too - so you can tell when to open the game if it is minimized.

I didnt think that I should just press the Stop butting. I think I chose a certain number of synths, and didnt want to go back and do the math to make up for the difference or something along those lines. It'd be just fine to hit stop instead of you rewriting code. Hitting stop after the game was paused would accomplish the same means, but it seems unnecessary to enable that when its just me being lazy =-)

Edit: Anyone other than pezzjunky experiencing the issue with abilities on v1.3.2.5?

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[lucid]

Originally Posted by Aethenoth

Not too sure what you mean by this one. You mean by clicking control I can keep the window from being touched in order to not disturb the program?

Example Error Condition:
1) Open window (disturbs program)
2) Bot presses up, arrow appears & cursor stays on standard
3) Bot presses enter, standard is confirmed

Example Error Averted Condition:
1) Open window (disturbs program)
1A) Press Control (arrow appears)
2) Bot presses up, arrow moves up
3) Bot presses enter, selection is confirmed

Originally Posted by Important Question For Testers

Anyone other than pezzjunky having problems with abilities in 1.3.2.5? So far he is the only one who has reported the problem on that version-- please tell me if you are still experiencing that problem too!

[Aethenoth]

Originally Posted by timebleeds

My deepest apologies. I didn't mean it like that. Yes, your program is safe and I just tried it out and probably the most simplified form of program I've seen in my eyes. No, I wouldn't want to leave it unattended but my concern of the question I asked was aimed at something else.

Has anyone been suspected using this bot program, like a GM?

Never see a GM but I either am always on my PC when I use the program or in the bowels of some place and in a hard to reach corner. There are lots of hidey holes in Ezorea.

Originally Posted by lucid

Example Error Condition:
1) Open window (disturbs program)
2) Bot presses up, arrow appears & cursor stays on standard
3) Bot presses enter, standard is confirmed

Example Error Averted Condition:
1) Open window (disturbs program)
1A) Press Control (arrow appears)
2) Bot presses up, arrow moves up
3) Bot presses enter, selection is confirmed

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[dellsharpie]

I got it to work by disabling pop up messages, apparently any pop up message disturbs FFXIVs fragile running. Program is great!

I just needed something so I dont need to sit there and hit enter for 4 hours, and this does that perfectly fine.

Thank you.

[lucid]

Originally Posted by dellsharpie

I got it to work by disabling pop up messages, apparently any pop up message disturbs FFXIVs fragile running. Program is great!

I just needed something so I dont need to sit there and hit enter for 4 hours, and this does that perfectly fine.

Thank you.

Glad you got it working

Could you tell me if abilities (hasty hand, preserve, etc) are working for you? If you could include your version number that'd be great.

[dellsharpie]

its version 1.3.2.4

I haven't used the abilities yet, but Ill set them to let you know. The only issue I come across is the bot doing careful (bold) synthesis when I don't want it to, randomly. I set it to both 0 and 999 and it will still try careful synthesis for some reason.

Preserve and Hasty Hand work for me provided they are not both selected at the same time. If they are the bot just runs standard synthesis.

[koji872909]

works great! I would love to see a fishing bot from you as well =D

[lucid]

Originally Posted by dellsharpie

its version 1.3.2.4

I haven't used the abilities yet, but Ill set them to let you know. The only issue I come across is the bot doing careful (bold) synthesis when I don't want it to, randomly. I set it to both 0 and 999 and it will still try careful synthesis for some reason.

Preserve and Hasty Hand work for me provided they are not both selected at the same time. If they are the bot just runs standard synthesis.

Hmm... that's really strange.

Do you have the bot as the active window, or is FFXIV the active window while the bot is running? Any mouse activity in FFXIV will cause keystrokes to be lost (see my post from earlier today to Aethenoth) - FFXIV even captures mouse input sometimes when you don't do anything to the mouse (or maybe my music is too loud), it's weird.

It sounds like the bot is trying to use wait, but something happens and causes it to miss one of the down arrow keystrokes. Is the sphere "Prismatic" when this happens? Is wait enabled in the bot? If you set the bold number to 999, it should not use bold at all.

The thing about preserve and hasty hand at the same time is new to me, I have not heard that. Have you tried it on 1.3.2.5 (it is a testing version)? If not, could you try? v1.3.2.5 (testing) is available here:

It is really surprising to hear that you get different results depending on how many abilities are equipped.

Originally Posted by koji872909

works great! I would love to see a fishing bot from you as well =D

Thanks, really glad to hear it

I do have plans for the fish bot, but want to make sure the craft bot is a well-oiled machine (for everyone!) before I move on

[dellsharpie]

I leave the Bot up so I can see the overall progress, but I can see FFXIV in the background. Should I minimize FFXIV to lessen the chance of lost keystrokes?

I will download the latest version and begin testing tomorrow.

The problem with Hasty Hand and Preserve may be an isolated incidence as I only tried it once, trying it twice more, it used Hasty Hand, both were successful, so I don't know?

I prefer to not to use Hasty Hand anyways because I want the full exp. So it's not an issue for me anyways.

EDIT: I watched the bot do Careful synthesis again during a prismatic sphere, I was touching nothing AND I had no music going. Could other programs running in the background be interfering with the timing perhaps? Although I have very little running so I don't know. Maybe minimizing it is the best for maximum efficiency.

[elm33]

I have had no issues with your latest version. Works great. Very impressed. The only feature that I want for that is not there is a stop button. Pause works great but sometimes you just want to stop and do a different synth.

Really fantastic job though and my wish above is a minor minor minor thing!

Thanks for the hard work!

[lucid]

Originally Posted by elm33

I have had no issues with your latest version. Works great. Very impressed. The only feature that I want for that is not there is a stop button. Pause works great but sometimes you just want to stop and do a different synth.

Really fantastic job though and my wish above is a minor minor minor thing!

Thanks for the hard work!

Check the "Synthesis Options" tab while the bot is running - like that?

[13ouncer]

I am going to check this out XD

[lucid]

Originally Posted by 13ouncer

I am going to check this out XD

Cool, let me know what you think

Originally Posted by dellsharpie

I leave the Bot up so I can see the overall progress, but I can see FFXIV in the background. Should I minimize FFXIV to lessen the chance of lost keystrokes?

No. You do not need to minimize the game, but you should make sure it is not the active window. If the bot window is active, that should be good enough.