Understanding HWID ban/ shadow bans

[0x41^4]

Originally Posted by BannedAndAfriad

Thanks for the detailed response. I have a few follow up questions if that’s okay.

First, regardless of which PC I play on, I would pretty much have to play with a HWID spoofer permanently from this point going forward I’m assuming if I don’t want either of my pcs actual hardware banned permanently?

Second, what happens in the case that my account gets banned while HWID spoofing, will I need to use a different spoofing program, or does it spoof it uniquely each time?

Third, I noticed in your profile that you use phantom overlay. Does their aimbot support controller? I’ve been looking for a silent stream safe provider that won’t require me to use rewasd

PO does not support native controller use.
Use Modern Internal for that.

If you are banned while using a spoofer, you will simply need to spoof again. You can use the same spoofer you've been using.

You can use a spoofer if you don't want your PC to become HWID banned, yes, but sometimes spoofers are the cause of a ban, so you either risk an account or you risk your PC HWID.

Originally Posted by sultanmoonk

I am also having a problem ATM. I was permabanned 02/2021 or something, x22 got detected. i never cheated from that day on.
i became pretty good at the game without any software. i got shadowbanned twice for too many reports i guess (5kd/43%winrate).
10 days ago i got shadowbanned again, waited it out als usual, got lifted. went in to play a game, got shadowbanned again. tried a spare account of a friend -> instant shadowbann.
what is happening to me ? is it still because of the thing in early 2021 ?

Edit: keep in mind, no external software!

There was a bug mid 2021 that would cause permanent shadowbans.
Your ban would expire and then it would shadow you again.
The only solution for this is spoofing or buying new hardware for your PC.

[Wotdogx]

Originally Posted by 0x41^4

ELI5 version of what goes on behind the scenes when you get banned -

>Boom. Perm banned
>Acti creates a file which watches your HWID
>File is called "bad boy file, watch this HWID for activity"
>File stops you from creating new accounts and cheating because it reads your unknown memory
>File lasts 'x' months (nobody knows how long, can be 6-12 months)
>Eventually, file goes away
>Make accounts and cheat again

So, your old PC could be fine, it could not be fine. You wont know unless you fire it up and make a new account on it and test. If you were banned on the new PC, there is a chance that the old PC would've been flagged too, but they typically look at the most consecutive HWID use.

If it's not ok, use revo uninstaller or a spoofer with a cleaner and delete the game and clean registries with it.
Reinstall, spoof, cheat again, enjoy.

I've had multiple permanently banned accounts, my HWID is 'flagged' so when I rebought the game last year I had to sit out an instant shadow ban which lasted about 8 days, then I could cheat again after that shadow ban which doesn't line up with what you said?

[moeab]

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[0x41^4]

Originally Posted by moeab

Hello guys, someone recomended this website for me, ive read some of the thread comments regarding this topic

okay so it would be nice if you guys can educate me regarding this situation i have

so i have been perm banned on my main like 3-4 days ago, on the ban wave that has happend, so yesterday i log on a different account i had from ages ago that ive not used since the start of warzone, started playing rebirth like a game or 2 it was fine, then a few games later it started filling me with shadowban lobbies, i sort of rage quit, went to sleep, woke up the next morning i found out that the account has been banned but not a perm like my main, so i make a 3rd account, this 3rd account is a fresh account, i start a rebirth game, and every one is walling/aimbotting doing all sorts pretty much a hacker lobby, so i rage quit again, and started to look for information regarding this

people are saying, i should wait maybe 7/14 days because of the shadowban, but i want to play and i dont want to wait these days, so what i was suggesting is, should i buy a 30 day spoofer, make a brand new account, play for maybe 14 days or so, turn off the spoffer log off the spoofed account, log on the shadowbanned account to see if any of the lobbies are still shadowbanned, if it isnt anymore after ive played a few games will i be safe and not be worried about being banned again, if it is still shadowbanned does that mean that my HWID is flagged, and i should stick to spoofing for ever?

what do you legends suggest regarding this? and if anyone has any other solution about this i would be very grateful


EDIT: another question, while spoofing am i allowed to use cheats? i only use a uav tool and nothing else

Buy the PhantomOverlay spoofer, buy or create a new account, play without restriction.

I don't recommend using UAV tools right now, not for at least a week, but yes, you can use a spoofer with other cheats. Load cheat, then spoof.

[0x41^4]

Originally Posted by moeab

Cheers for that information buddy, I just wanted to make sure aswell

So I tried to make a new account, but sadly all my numbers have been used do u know any site that gives verified numbers or do u suggest that i should buy a new account instead and then change the email for it?

Another thing about what I said do you think that I’m HWID banned? Should I spoof play for a few weeks then turn off the spoofer to check if my Pc isn’t HWID banned? Should I try this method?

And regarding a uav tool is there any that you recommend after I wait and not cheat?

Unless I am raging, I use a service (app) that can be found on my Apple App Store. I subscribe to a monthly service that gives me unlimited numbers. This allows my accounts to last longer as the phone numbers are not commercialized.

Otherwise, if I am raging, I'll use a service like 5sim.

I don't recommend any UAV tool right now, not until there has been a week+ testing period as they've all been detected recently.

If you want a cheat with ESP, I recommend PhantomOverlay.
You could also use Modern Internal if you want more functions (recoil slider, stronger prediction, etc).

Edit: I'm laying in my hammock so I'm extremely lazy right now and didn't read your initial post fully.

If you are being permanently banned after shadow banned, you are HWID banned.
If you are only being shadowed, you are not HWID banned but you are flagged.
If you want to cheat, you'll need to play with a spoofer for a while.

[0x41^4]

Originally Posted by moeab

I'm sorry for this hassle mate, i really do appreciate everything you've said i kind of have a good understanding of it, so i am not hwid banned but im just flagged, im just shadowed right now i shouldn't be playing on the shadowed account for a week or 2 i take it

regarding a new account i make with the spoofer i use, what if it gets shadowed aswell even if i dont cheat or is that not possible to happen?

Any account that has shadowed is basically unusable now.
Loading cheats onto it will cause another sb.
You can use it again if you don't want to cheat in 2 weeks, but cheating on it again will cause another sb.

As long as you have a quality spoofer, you wont get another sb unless you blatantly cheat i.e rage with 30 kills on a new account.

[0x41^4]

Originally Posted by moeab

so lets say, maybe after 7-14 days, should i make another new account, and play without a spoofer to double check if i get shadowbanned? and that way i can be safe to play cod without a spoofer no? and if im safe to play again and the new account is not shadowbanned, is it safe to use a cheat that way, and whenever i get shadowbanned using a cheat i get back to a spoofer? or do u recomend whenver a cheat is activated, the spoofer should be on at all time?
cuz tbh i cbf paying monthly for a spoofer its 2 much im broke af, i just wana know if its safe to use cheats, after my shadowban clears out

i dont make it obvious whenever i use a cheat anyway

thankyou bro, your're a legend, do you have a discord server? you're like a professor i really appreciate all the time and effort in replying i love you no ****

When the shadow expires, you'll be able to play on the shadowed account again (not cheating).
If you create another account after the shadow expires, the new account will likely be shadowed.
The flag on your account applies to all accounts created and played using your HWID, thus the need for a spoofer.

You could use a permanent spoofer, that would solve your issues and accommodate your financial situation, but I personally don't like permanent ones as they're a bit malicious on your PC.

[moeab]

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[skeleton man]

Originally Posted by moeab

so even when the shadow expires on the shadwobanned account, i'm able to play again without being shadowbanned and without using any cheats?

so i should never inject a cheat without a spoofer whenever the shadowban expires?

shadowbans are not hwid bans

i have never used a spoofer in my life in warzone

[0x41^4]

Originally Posted by moeab

so even when the shadow expires on the shadwobanned account, i'm able to play again without being shadowbanned and without using any cheats?

so i should never inject a cheat without a spoofer whenever the shadowban expires?

so the only way for me right now to cheat is use spoofers right and not get shadowbanned?

do you reckon this flag on my HWID will ever expire in the future, whenever i feel like cheating without a spoofer (only cheat i use is a uav tool)? or do i have to stick with spoofers whenever i wna cheat?

Here's a simplistic version of what happens -

Originally Posted by 0x41^4

ELI5 version of what goes on behind the scenes when you get banned -

>Boom. Perm banned
>Acti creates a file which watches your HWID
>File is called "bad boy file, watch this HWID for activity"
>File stops you from creating new accounts and cheating because it reads your unknown memory
>File lasts 'x' months (nobody knows how long, can be 6-12 months)
>Eventually, file goes away
>Make accounts and cheat again

So, your old PC could be fine, it could not be fine. You wont know unless you fire it up and make a new account on it and test. If you were banned on the new PC, there is a chance that the old PC would've been flagged too, but they typically look at the most consecutive HWID use.

If it's not ok, use revo uninstaller or a spoofer with a cleaner and delete the game and clean registries with it.
Reinstall, spoof, cheat again, enjoy.

[rafpol]

Hey. I am perm banned (using UAV for several days, dont wanna cheat anymore). By the way of this PB, I upgraded almost all pc (left only monitor and GPU). My questions are
1. Do I need to buy new windows to have different activation key or can I play on old one
2. Should I change my public IP address/MAC or change router?
3. Can I safely connect old SSD to copy files on new SSD? I have fresh windows without literally anything on it.

Thanks

[0x41^4]

Originally Posted by rafpol

Hey. I am perm banned (using UAV for several days, dont wanna cheat anymore). By the way of this PB, I upgraded almost all pc (left only monitor and GPU). My questions are
1. Do I need to buy new windows to have different activation key or can I play on old one
2. Should I change my public IP address/MAC or change router?
3. Can I safely connect old SSD to copy files on new SSD? I have fresh windows without literally anything on it.

Thanks

Replace your drives as well.

[ilikebacon]

Originally Posted by 0x41^4

Any account that has shadowed is basically unusable now.
Loading cheats onto it will cause another sb.
You can use it again if you don't want to cheat in 2 weeks, but cheating on it again will cause another sb.

As long as you have a quality spoofer, you wont get another sb unless you blatantly cheat i.e rage with 30 kills on a new account.

So basically I can use PO spoofer on my shadowbanned(its not shadowbanned anymore) account and use PO again?

[0x41^4]

Originally Posted by ilikebacon.

So basically I can use PO spoofer on my shadowbanned(its not shadowbanned anymore) account and use PO again?

Nope.

Originally Posted by 0x41^4

*snip*

As long as you have a quality spoofer, you wont get another sb unless you blatantly cheat i.e rage with 30 kills on a new account.

Your main is nuked you goober.
Get rid of it.
GIT REHD AF ET

[ilikebacon]

**** man

Guess I'll sell it.