To ALL newbie "hackers"

As I can see many people are trying to be hackers but still don't know how to use Cheat/Revolution Engine (some of them even don't know what CE is?!). So I've decided to put a link and give an advice to all those people. Click [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] to view CE tutorials. And my advice is: learn to read and try CE's project yourself. Everything is written there in pure simple English (yes, it's not my native language, but I managed somehow to understand what's written there :D).You don't have time to learn yourself? Beg for programs that do everything for you (including keyboard sniffing ^^).

thanks 9d buffer, i hope more ppl try to teach others :)

Nice help some newbie around here

I find CheatEngine to be sort of a noob program anyways.
After you have CheatEngine down, go to the tutorials section of E*PVP and look at some packet tutorials.

After that, learn Visual Basic.
VB teaches you the basics of how programming works. (Either VB or PHP)
After VB, check out a book from your local library on C++. Or go to youtube and watch TheNewBoston's or AntiRTFM's C++ tutorials.

Then you should have a low-moderate knowledge of how programming works, and also a low knowledge of the basics of game cheating.

Always make sure you know WHY/HOW something works, not just that it does.

After you have done all this (Could take months, It took me about 2 years)

Head on over to GameDeception or ************* and poke around there. GD and UC are very valuable resources. Now, learn some ASM(assembly) and reversing.

Once you have that down, welcome to game hacking.
Read up on D3D for making menus for DirectX games, and make some friends that know what they're talking about.

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Originally Posted by DeathByMoogles I find CheatEngine to be sort of a noob program anyways. After you have CheatEngine down, go to the tutorials section of E*PVP and look at some packet tutorials. After that, learn Visual Basic. VB teaches you the basics of how programming works. (Either VB or PHP) After VB, check out a book from your local library on C++. Or go to youtube and watch TheNewBoston's or AntiRTFM's C++ tutorials. Then you should have a low-moderate knowledge of how programming works, and also a low knowledge of the basics of game cheating. Always make sure you know WHY/HOW something works, not just that it does. After you have done all this (Could take months, It took me about 2 years) Head on over to GameDeception or ************* and poke around there. GD and UC are very valuable resources. Now, learn some ASM(assembly) and reversing. Once you have that down, welcome to game hacking. Read up on D3D for making menus for DirectX games, and make some friends that know what they're talking about.

May i ask where you're atm? Just curious.

(I'm somewhere past the middle - leaving it as it is for now, due to lack of time)

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Originally Posted by RzrBck May i ask where you're atm? Just curious. (I'm somewhere past the middle - leaving it as it is for now, due to lack of time)

Learning more C++
Then gotta learn assembly + reversing.

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Originally Posted by DeathByMoogles I find CheatEngine to be sort of a noob program anyways. After you have CheatEngine down, go to the tutorials section of E*PVP and look at some packet tutorials. After that, learn Visual Basic. VB teaches you the basics of how programming works. (Either VB or PHP) After VB, check out a book from your local library on C++. Or go to youtube and watch TheNewBoston's or AntiRTFM's C++ tutorials. Then you should have a low-moderate knowledge of how programming works, and also a low knowledge of the basics of game cheating. Always make sure you know WHY/HOW something works, not just that it does. After you have done all this (Could take months, It took me about 2 years) Head on over to GameDeception or ************* and poke around there. GD and UC are very valuable resources. Now, learn some ASM(assembly) and reversing. Once you have that down, welcome to game hacking. Read up on D3D for making menus for DirectX games, and make some friends that know what they're talking about.

LOL, you've showed them the hardest way. I've let those dream of making 100% working supa-dupa hack :)

ASM is completely dull, and it took me quite a while to become well versed in it.

I started learning ASM at the age of 14 because a fellow hacker recommended it to me,

if you know ASM, there's nothing that you can't do.

Now as a software engineer I'm thankful that I got into computers at a young age ! XD

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Originally Posted by InTeNz ASM is completely dull, and it took me quite a while to become well versed in it. I started learning ASM at the age of 14 because a fellow hacker recommended it to me, if you know ASM, there's nothing that you can't do. Now as a software engineer I'm thankful that I got into computers at a young age ! XD

Yeah, I think that what people don't realize is how long it takes to make a hack.
They expect to watch some C++ tuts on youtube for a month or so then be a 1337 h4x0r.

It doesn't work that way.
I turn 14 next month.
I've used computers since I was 3.
Started programming at around 9/10. First messed with batch programming in notepad, and command prompt and such. Thought I was beast.
Then I got into Visual Basic. That was when Visual Basic 08 was brand new.
Then I messed around with VB til I was about 12/13, then I got more serious.

Now I'm on to C++.
Then reversing and ASM

Another thing people don't realize is how important ASM is.
Assembly is such a low level language that, like you said, there isn't much you can't do with it.

My plans are to go on to M.I.T. and get my bachelor's in Computer Science.
From there I either want to be a Computer Security Specialist or a programmer.

Nice to know we have one professional programmer on here besides saweet.

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Originally Posted by 9D_player LOL, you've showed them the hardest way. I've let those dream of making 100% working supa-dupa hack :)

This isn't the hardest way, this is the ONLY way that any of these noobs are ever going to get past CheatEngine.

I bet you if I told them that they needed to find the speed address pointer they would all stare at you blankly

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Originally Posted by DeathByMoogles I turn 14 next month. ... My plans are to go on to M.I.T. and get my bachelor's in Computer Science. From there I either want to be a Computer Security Specialist or a programmer.

Go go :) I've passed this way many years ago :pimp:

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Originally Posted by DeathByMoogles Nice to know we have one professional programmer on here besides saweet.

There probably are more but they just keep quiet :)

P.S. Sorry for the offtopic, but this is the end of the workday and I wanted to have some fun :)

Yeah, I really like EPVPrs, but I just hate the amount of people that beg for things, granted I used to be like that, when I first started computer games I would always ask my step father to make hacks for me, he was a PC spec for the US/CAN military for 21 years and was still up to date with everything.

I got into VB and all around the same age 12/13 and started the ASM at 14, ASM was the last thing on the list to learn really.

With it being such a low level language you can really go further then just "cheating" and really take a game like 9Dragons and make it how you want.

I gave up on making hacks for public release.

I used to release macros and things such as that way back then, but I find the more you give the more they want, they are never satisfied with anything, making good things public gets them patched pretty fast.

Anything I do now is really just for personal use.

I was always told the first rule of hacking is to never hack a game you truly like.

And I stand by that, hacking does ruin a game, which is weird to hear in a hacking community.

But when you have every damn noob using speed hack and cast hack, and making it so obvious it just takes the fun out of the game.

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Originally Posted by 9D_player There probably are more but they just keep quiet :)

If you've noticed I rarely post unless I find the need to,

and that need doesn't include people asking and begging for hacks.

I'll put my word in where I feel it's needed, I've been a member of Epvprs for almost a year and only have 20 posts, many will think I'm a noob, which I'm completely fine with.

But when it comes down to it, and G1 gets a working anti-hack and etc, they'll be crying to all of us "noobs" for hacks because we're the ones that are able to use them.

It wouldn't be so bad if people wouldn't make it so obvious, like really.

If you're going to use speed hack, freeze it at 100% speed.

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Originally Posted by InTeNz I was always told the first rule of hacking is to never hack a game you truly like.

This will happen if those hacks fall into n00bs hands. That's why I don't list or publish my own programs and help only a few people here who have a real interest and are trying to learn rather than ruin.

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Originally Posted by InTeNz Yeah, I really like EPVPrs, but I just hate the amount of people that beg for things, granted I used to be like that, when I first started computer games I would always ask my step father to make hacks for me, he was a PC spec for the US/CAN military for 21 years and was still up to date with everything. I got into VB and all around the same age 12/13 and started the ASM at 14, ASM was the last thing on the list to learn really. With it being such a low level language you can really go further then just "cheating" and really take a game like 9Dragons and make it how you want. I gave up on making hacks for public release. I used to release macros and things such as that way back then, but I find the more you give the more they want, they are never satisfied with anything, making good things public gets them patched pretty fast. Anything I do now is really just for personal use. I was always told the first rule of hacking is to never hack a game you truly like. And I stand by that, hacking does ruin a game, which is weird to hear in a hacking community. But when you have every damn noob using speed hack and cast hack, and making it so obvious it just takes the fun out of the game.

I think that hacking makes games more fun.
But it has it's limits.
E.G. releasing a dupe/quest repeater = endgame

But my friends and I share mutually, especially when it comes to hack source codes.

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Originally Posted by InTeNz If you've noticed I rarely post unless I find the need to, and that need doesn't include people asking and begging for hacks. I'll put my word in where I feel it's needed, I've been a member of Epvprs for almost a year and only have 20 posts, many will think I'm a noob, which I'm completely fine with. But when it comes down to it, and G1 gets a working anti-hack and etc, they'll be crying to all of us "noobs" for hacks because we're the ones that are able to use them. It wouldn't be so bad if people wouldn't make it so obvious, like really. If you're going to use speed hack, freeze it at 100% speed.

People don't understand the concept of polymorphism/dynamic addresses.
Or even how CheatEngine works, for that matter.