if CE(cheat engine) is a tool that adds, subtracts, or voids packets, memory, code injects, ECT. when it comes to programs shouldn't there be a permanent solution other than just using CE to do the work for ya. using information gained though CE? cus I've noticed there is alot of CE things going around and i can't be bothered to have a billion open. not to mention one CE will only work with one program at a time making very hard or not at all possible to edit or use multiple programs with other programs.