Ok I've been looking into the whole hex editing thing and thats not what im really intrested in now. I want to start making bots like COtobo and the like. I belive I need to start by learning VB. Correct me if I'm wrong. But if so, where do I get this Vb program. Only programming I've ever done was in the pascal language using a compiler. I've never made an executable program and have no idea where to begin. Now I am a fast learner and if someone can give me a few steps to get me started in the right direction I can learn faster and start making bots for everyone out there. Instead of speaning the last 4 hours searching on google. Thx for the help.