Any working boss keys to hide Mabinogi app?

05/21/2010 19:06 Acorn511#1
Is there any working boss keys to hide mabinogi when parents are around? Most application hider hotkeys such as (ctrl alt x) don't hide mabinogi for some reason but it works with just about everything else.
05/21/2010 19:12 Kevsprk#2
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05/21/2010 20:06 lostmage333#3
What's wrong with alt + tab?
05/22/2010 01:32 Acorn511#4
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Nope didnt work but I found "process Manager for windows" ty anyway
05/22/2010 01:52 fenrir2037#5
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What's wrong with alt + tab?
smart parents
05/22/2010 19:49 Utterly Lazy#6
Try yod'm 3D it gives u 4 desktops, and u can set the hotkey as a cmbination of the buttns ctrl, shift, and alt.
05/23/2010 03:44 Infylos#7
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Most application hider hotkeys such as (ctrl alt x) don't hide mabinogi for some reason but it works with just about everything else.
I've found that hotkeys don't work with Mabi active (aside from alt + tab and ctrl + alt + del).
If you think about it, it makes sense. Have you ever wondered why your start menu opens when you press the Windows key for the ingame menu?
I think that's the case because it was programmed to either nullify or use those hotkeys. That's something I was thinking about just recently. Not even Autoit hotkeys work.
05/23/2010 06:42 Halfslashed#8
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I've found that hotkeys don't work with Mabi active (aside from alt + tab and ctrl + alt + del).
If you think about it, it makes sense. Have you ever wondered why your start menu opens when you press the Windows key for the ingame menu?
I think that's the case because it was programmed to either nullify or use those hotkeys. That's something I was thinking about just recently. Not even Autoit hotkeys work.
Autoit hotkeys work, they just activate whatever was on that hotkey in game.
05/23/2010 21:22 Infylos#9
Not for me... I gotta kill the scripts manually... >_>
05/24/2010 14:41 lostmage333#10
Mabinogi creates an application level keyboard hook. I'm 95% sure that these application level hooks override global hooks, with the exception of ctrl + alt + delete.

For those who don't know, all Mabinogi hotkeys are based on an application level keyboard hook. I know they're not global because pressing my F1 hotkey outside of the game doesn't activate my F1 action, but rather, opens up help (for most programs). However, the hiding program you're looking for would need to set up a global hook. That means that you could use that hotkey even if that program is not the active window.

AHK did something, somehow, that set global hooks that overrode Mabinogi's application hooks. AutoIT doesn't seem to do the same thing. I used to be able to write AHK scripts that use F1-F12 as hotkeys, and when pressed, it'll trigger then AHK function and NOT what I have it assigned to in the game. Now, for AutoIT, that doesn't work anymore.

I really liked what AHK did. I also wonder how they did it.
05/25/2010 02:50 Halfslashed#11
Look at the source, lol.
05/25/2010 13:53 lostmage333#12
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Look at the source, lol.
AHK is Open-Source? o.O

I'm not referring to a specific script, its just the way the program works in general.
05/25/2010 22:45 Halfslashed#13
Yes, AHK is open source, c'mon lostmage, I thought you already knew that :/

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05/26/2010 04:11 Tyne#14
Global hotkeys are the way to go.
05/26/2010 14:41 lostmage333#15
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Yes, AHK is open source, c'mon lostmage, I thought you already knew that :/

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I didn't know that. Thanks =P

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Global hotkeys are the way to go.
Mabinogi overrides global keyboard hooks with application level hooks, though. I can register a global hotkey on, say, ctrl+alt+1, but it will only activate when pressed outside of Mabinogi. Is there some other method (other than using Win32 API) of doing this...?